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LadyKira
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14 Jun 2009 21:13 |
Looking back at this each of the children has a different surname with no relation to the marriages we know about or I have had too much juice with my barbie.
1861 Address: Bow Street, Langport POMEROY, William Head Married M 50 1811 Hairdresser Taunton Somerset POMEROY, Charlotte Wife Married F 47 1814 Stalbridge Dorsetshire DARROW, Alice Harriet Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar Langport Somerset RALPH, Henry Son M 8 1853 Scholar Langport Somerset HABROUK, Arthur Son M 6 1855 Scholar Langport Somerset FRANCIS, Charles John Son M 4 1857 Scholar Langport Somerset
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2009 21:15 |
William's mother 1851: Living with other daughter, Eliza (elizabeth's sister) Civil parish: Taunton St James Town: Taunton County/Island: Somerset Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Household schedule number: 51
Eliza Pomeroy 40 Head Unmarried Dress maker Elizabeth Pomeroy 71 Mother Widow Char woman Eliza Hewett 14 Niece App dress maker
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Tancred St, Taunton. Civil parish: Taunton St James Town: Taunton County/Island: Somerset Country: England Registration district: Taunton Sub-registration district: Taunton St James ED, institution, or vessel: 2f Household schedule number: 155
Elizabeth Pomeroy 82 Widow Invalid Mary Simmonds 62 Lodger
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LadyKira
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14 Jun 2009 21:15 |
Actually I think it was the enumerator who attacked the juice
1871 Address: Cheapside, Langport, Langport Eastover POMEROY, Charlotte Head F 58 1813 Dorset VIEW POMEROY, Alice H D Daughter F 21 1850 Somerset VIEW POMEROY, Arthur S Son M 16 1855 Somerset VIEW POMEROY, Chas J F Son M 14 1857 Somerset
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LadyKira
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14 Jun 2009 21:18 |
Births Mar 1850 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Pomeroy Alice Harriet Do*n Langport 10 441
Deaths Mar 1934 (93%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- POMEROY Alice H D 75 Hastings 2b 23
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2009 21:21 |
Habrouk- is mistranscibed- this should be Shubrook/ or Sherbrook.
The name Francis comes from William's brother.
Which leaves Darrow- I think- I'm half way down a bottle of wine too- so bear with me!!
So where does Darrow come from?? Or are there more names you can see Christine??
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Gritty
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14 Jun 2009 21:28 |
Christine- think I'm gonna join hubby on the sofa- think my brain's scrambled for tonight. Good work. Catch up with this later. Helen
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LadyKira
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14 Jun 2009 21:32 |
Goodnight Helen
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Martin
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14 Jun 2009 21:45 |
Hi I see you enjoyed your summer's day. William and Charlotte's family in Langport; DARROW, Alice Harriet Daughter F 11 1850 Scholar Correct name: Alice Harriet Dorean Pomeroy I don't know where Dorean comes from. She was a spinster and lived with her widowed mother until her mother Charlotte died 1895 5c 279 HABROUK, Arthur Son M 6 1855 Scholar Correct name: Arthur Shewbrook Pomeroy. Also spelt Shubrook. I have his original Birth Cert RALPH, Henry Son M 8 1853 Scholar. Died at 19 1872 5c 296 FRANCIS, Charles John Son M 4 1857 Scholar. Died at 28 1885 Too much to study now. I'll browse through your efforts tomorrow. Results look great! Thank you Martin
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Martin
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15 Jun 2009 11:34 |
Hi there Your research from yesterday is great. I've been looking for ages for this info. Three years ago I made contact with a GR member who has links to Charles Pomeroy of Marylebone. At the time we coudn't resolve a lot of issues and abandoned the idea. I'll renew the contact now that you've put me on the right track. One more question. William's wife Charlotte Harris was born in Stalbridge, Dorset, about 1813/15. According to her 1849 marriage Cert, her father was John Harris a "Gentleman" of Holne. I'm not quite sure of the spelling of Holne, however. Any leads? Many thanks for all your efforts Martin PS "Richards Death: St James, Taunton Richard Pomeroy: Tancred Street 2/ 4/ 1832 age 52 " On William and Charlotte's Marriage Cert on 17 Apr 1849, Richard's profession is given as "Builder". This would follow on from the previously given "Joiner" as a related trade. However, would this been put on the Marriage Cert even if Richard was no longer alive?
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Gritty
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15 Jun 2009 13:26 |
Hello Martin,
Yes it's possible that William would have put his father's profession- even if his father was deceased. When people are married they are often asked what their father's profession is/ was- but not whether parent's are still living.
I am certain that the death for Richard is correct- there are no other Richard Pomeroy/ Pumroy/ Pomroy deaths that would fit in that area- plus he was registered as from Tancred St- which seems to be a constant thread for this family.
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Gritty
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15 Jun 2009 13:51 |
I've checked Stalbridge baptisms from 1807- 1820- this is the only Charlotte I could find- but father is Samuel??
Jan,1811,Charlotte: Samuel,Sarah,HARRIS Aug,1813,Charlotte: Samuel & Sarah,HARRIS, Stalbridge,Farmer
I suspect the earlier Charlotte died as these appear to be born to the same family.
There were several Harris births in Stalbridge around this time from different families- but none appear to have father as John.
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Gritty
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15 Jun 2009 14:19 |
There is this marriage in Stalbridge- (Only John Harris I could find), perhaps this couple had children. Need to do a bit more digging!!
26 Sep,1812, Licence ,John HARRIS, Stalbridge/ Mary HARRIS, Stalbridge. Witnesses: Edith Harris John Green
"There could be a number of reasons for a couple to obtain a licence: they might wish to marry quickly (and avoid the three weeks' delay by the calling of banns); they might wish to marry in a parish away from their home parish; or, because a licence required payment, they might choose to obtain one as a status symbol."
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Gritty
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15 Jun 2009 16:28 |
For ref:
1841 census: High Street Charlotte Harris Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816 Gender: Female Where born: Dorset, England Civil parish: Stalbridge Hundred: Sturminster Division Brownshall County/Island: Dorset Registration district: Sturminster Sub-registration district: Stalbridge
Jane Harris 30 confectioner Charlotte Harris 25 confectioner Fanny Harris 2
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Martin
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15 Jun 2009 16:57 |
Hi Helen Charlotte's birth year is a bit confusng. Her Marriage cert gives her age as 34 in April 1849, suggesting 1815. Census records suggest 1813 or , in one case, 1814. All give or take a year. Do you know where Holne is? Is it anywhere hear to Stalbridge or Totnes, where the marriage took place. They married in the Register Office if that's significant. Hope this adds a small piece to the jigsaw. Martin
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Gritty
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15 Jun 2009 17:05 |
Martin-
Holne is in Devonshire- 1837- 1968 it came under Totnes registration district.
I'm going to have tp pass on this one- can't seem to make any progress- maybe some-one else can have a look. They maybe be able to work out some links through Fanny and Jane listed on the 1841.
I'll check in later.
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Martin
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15 Jun 2009 18:15 |
Hi Helen Thanks for you valiant efforts. More info on Elizabeth Pomeroy: "Death Pomeroy Elizabeth 91 Taunton Dec 1870 5c 291 Need to confirm this through 1851/61 census- EDIT> confirmed in later message. Making her birth c1779. " I found these references on Ancestry: 1841 Census Elizabeth Pomery b 1781 age 60 Cornwall 1851 Census Elizabeth Pomeroy b 1780 age 71 Somerset 1861 Census Elizabeth Pomeroy b 1779 age 81 Somerset They seem to be correct.
Thanks Martin
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Gritty
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15 Jun 2009 18:40 |
Martin- do you know who were listed as the witnesses on William's and Charlotte's marriage? and what addresses were given?
On Ancestry, when searching for Fanny and Jane it comes up with parish records listing father as John- I can't access this info, as I only have a basic membership. Perhaps someone else can take a look?
According to this Stalbridge Genealogy site Harris were one of the major names: http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Dorset/towns/Stalbridge.html#families
However- there is no reference to Charlotte or her father John.
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LadyKira
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15 Jun 2009 21:23 |
Hi Martin Sorry I have been at a funeral all day. Holne is near Ashburton Devon.
I have just found loads of Pomeroy wills some from Holne
http://www.geocities.com/pomerytwig/Willsfivefive.html
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POMEROY Robert. Personal estate £107 4s 11d. 13 July. Will of Robert Pomeroy late of Holne in county of Devon, gentleman who died 21 June 1883 at Holne Court in Holne ,was proved at Exeter by Edward Mann of Holne, yeoman, nephew and sole executor.
I think you need to bookmark this and come back to it.
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LadyKira
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15 Jun 2009 21:36 |
http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Holne/Overseers/Churchwardens.html
Gives Pomeroys and Harrises at Holne
Probably a bit early for where we are at the moment but worth bookmarking. I also see Richard seems to be a Pomeroy family name.
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Martin
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15 Jun 2009 21:39 |
Winesses: Susan Hamlyn, Thomas Hamlyn H F Windiatt ? Superintendant Registrar -difficult to read Richard Martyn ? Registrar No addresses given Date 17 April 1849 Register Office in the District of Totnes in the County of Devon Not much useful info I'm afraid Martin
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