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Sorry just had to nip out to shop!! Choccy thank you - that is my grandmother!!!!! I know they lived in Harpers lane at some time and the little info. past on to me mentioned parents as Thomas and ? so it all fits. Thank you so much.

Lancashireann, thanks too for your input. Maybe Eva was Kathleen and I never knew. I am hoping to speak to a distant family member later on (she won't be home yet) and she may be able to throw some light on the William Hodgkinson side of family regarding Eva. I will post when I know anything and hopefully confirm you are on right track. I do know that Eva married someone called GILLET/GILLETT

William - same mother's maiden name as Agnes

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1888
HODGKINSON William Chorley
mmm = BENNETT

can only find the 1 marriage for William

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1925
HODGKINSON William
KELLETT Mary Frances
Chorley, Methodist Church (Park Road)

edit - sorry now found the other one

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1917
ASHCROFT Ann
HODGKINSON William
Parish Church, Euxton

marriage of Agnes parents

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1887

HODGKINSON Thomas
BENNETT Sarah Ann
St Peter, Chorley

2 agnes ellen's registered - 1 Preston ! Chorley

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894
HODGKINSON Agnes Ellen Chorley
mmn = BENNETT

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1896
HODGKINSON Agnes Ellen
St Peters Preston
mmn = HALL

Kathleen was kathleen Eva

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1928
HODGKINSON Kathleen Eva
Chorley
mmn KELLETT

Can't see any Agnes G Hodgkinson being born around that time.

Think you should send for the birth certificate of Agnes E born 1894 in Chorley and see who parents are.

Are you still there Heather?

Found this one. Looks promising. Agnes G, but could be Agnes E on original. There is a William and an Elizabeth A.

1901 England Census
Name: Agnes G Hodgkinson
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Female
Where born: Chorley, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Chorley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Chorley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 172
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hodgkinson 36
Sarah A Hodgkinson 35
Elizabeth A Hodgkinson 13
William Hodgkinson 12
*********************Agnes G Hodgkinson 6

Heather, it's not until they've gone that you think about family history is it.

If you come up with any further information, please post it and we can have another look.

This is John and Elizabeth in 1881

1881 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Hodgkinson
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Euxton

Civil parish: Euxton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 13 Dawber Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Chorley
Sub-registration district: Leyland
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Hodgkinson 36
Elizabeth Hodgkinson 32
Mary Swarbrick 10
Ellen Hodgkinson 6
Alice Hodgkinson 5
James Hodgkinson 2

Note the address and sub-registration district of Leyland.

Thanks again for your help - certainly given me something to think about regarding family members - just wished I'd asked a few more questions when people were still living!!!!!

Heather

Don't know if it will get us anywhere, but this is the marriage of Elizabeth Swarbrick (spinster)(!) and William Hodgkinson's father.

Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%)
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HODGKINSON John Chorley 8e 749
Swarbrick Elizabeth Chorley 8e 749

(there is a May Swarbrick on the 1891 and 1901 census with the family, presumable a daughter of Elizabeth's first marriage)

If you haven't got Agnes Ellen's birth cert, perhaps you ought to send for it - if the Chorley connection is correct, this is probably it.

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Hodgkinson Agnes Ellen Chorley 8e 527

That is the marriage so maybe she was called Helen!! Or it might be a mistake that whoever wrote the entry assuimed she was Helen and just dropped the H when she spoke as she was a Lancashire lass after all!!!

Marriages Mar 1918 (>99%)
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Hodgkinson Agnes H Bosher Chorley 8e 765

If this is the marriage, it says Agnes H not Agnes E

Should it be Helen, as opposed to Ellen?

You need to work backwards. Not sure if a maternal/paternal grandmother, but birth certificate of your mother/father would give her correct name (unless of course she never used the name she was given on registration). If you have a copy of your grandmother's marriage certificate that will at least give her father's name and occupation, which would be something to look for in a census.

(You mentioned Dawbers Lane, and the 1891 census does show that Hodgkinson family living in 'Daubers' Lane)

Choccy how sad to think no-one remembered your mother's younger sister. Maybe the same happened with Hilda then. The only reason I believed that Agnes and William were born in Euxton comes through some records I was given but now I start to think they are incorrect. Could it be the Hodgkinson family always lived in Chorley? Are there any records you have access to to show a Hodgkinson family in Chorley with a son William and a daughter Agnes or Ellen. born 15/09/1894

My thinking re Hilda was that she was born 2 years before Dorothy, so basically Hilda was never mentioned (or remembered)

(It was only 6 months ago that I found after my mum died she was not the youngest child in a family of 11, but she had a sister who was younger, who died within the first year, and not one of my aunts remember her!! How strange is that)

I have some records of a Hodgkinson family in Euxton and they show the family moved to Chorley but unsure if it's my Hodgkinsons. It lists the daughter as Elizabeth A Hodgkinson but I am sure my grandmother was called Agnes Ellen. Could this be her?

THank you all for trying so hard to find info. It's so difficult when I have so little to go on. I feel sure that Eva was not called Kathleen but again it's a possibility