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Well I am sorry my relative murdered your relative. Sad story wasn't it?

Christine
The forum re Miller/Langridge on Rootschat is fascinating. Certainly is my family. How exciting to read all that. As I also have Mary's surname as Smith from one of the records. Just goes to show not everything is recorded correctly. My connection with this family is : After John and Harriet arrived in NZ with Catherine, Charles and William they then had Annie Elizabeth who is my Grandmother.

As I say I have a large number of Langrdges in Malling. Some went to Mereworth . My primary interest in the area is Harryman but there were several marriages between the families. I recently visited Mereworth and saw the houses they had built, They were quite influential in the area, Some of mine are on tyhe same street as yours at one point, If you wish to view my tree pm me.

Thank you so much Christine.
I haven't been able to look at my Threads for the last couple of days - had loads of things to catch up on outside the home. Now I'm back and look what info you have forwarded to me. Just wonderful. I will get into the Rootschat site tonight.

You have been very generous with your time.

Thankyou.

1841 Address: Hall House Corner, Barming
LANGRIDGE, James M 28 1813 Kent
LANGRIDGE, Mary F 20 1821 Kent
LANGRIDGE, Matilda F 2 1839 Kent

More from the roots chat

"You're right, I definitely need to give out some more background information so here goes. I don't have any info on the backgrounds of Harriet and John (i.e where were they born etc.) which was why I was finding them so elusive. However this is what I do know: John and Harriet Miller emigrated to New Zealand in 1874 with three children Catherine (10), Charles(2) and William (2 months). The Kent Union, with its executive in Maidstone, had already sponsored the emigration costs of about a thousand labourers and their families. In early 1874 sixteen families from the parish of Burham near Rochester were sent. They were farewelled from the Walnut Tree inn in Burham and set out for Portsmouth. One of these sixteen families (most of whom were unemployed brickmakers) was the Millers. This ties in with the baptism entry for little Charles which lists St Mary's as their parish church and that is the name of Burham's parish church. What I don't know is whether John and Harriet's families were natives of Burham or whether John and Harriet had moved there looking for work. Catherine's daughter could only remember her mother referring to the fact that they came from West Malling. Those are the only facts we know in the family. Any help in filling in some of the gaps would be very welcome"

I have a large number of the Malling Langridges on my tree.
I have not found a connection yet but I am sure we will eventually link. towards the end of the rootschat board there is talk of a little boy who was murdered.

The murderer is in my tree!!!!!

The discussion starts with


"I've hit a real stumbling block on one branch of my family tree. I'm trying to trace the parents of one John Edwin Jacob Miller, a brickmaker from West Malling (possibly the village of Burham) and the surname of John's wife Harriet
who is called Harriet Smith in one family source and Harriet Langridge in another! Obviously I'm hoping that the less common name is the right one.
They emigrated to New Zealand in 1874 with the help of the Kent Union. Basically unless I can find out any more information on John Miller's family and his wife's real name I'm stuck. John was born circa 1844 possibly into a brickmaking family . Harriet's parents might have been called James and Mary.
Any help would be great! "

There is a long discussion on Rootschat about what looks like your Harriett i Barming Parents James and Mary.

It is a free site but you can read it without joining.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=55dc535395179a799fd75342cfd2b5fd&topic=268491.0

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=55dc535395179a799fd75342cfd2b5fd&topic=268491.15

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HARRIET LANGRIDGE Pedigree
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 24 APR 1842 Hartfield, Sussex, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES LANGRIDGE Family
Mother: GRACE


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Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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C148282

1841 Address: Coleman's Hatch, Hartfield
LANGRIDGE, James M 20 1821 Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Grace F 20 1821 Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, George M 0 (9 months) 1841 Sussex VIEW
BONNYFACE, Arthur M 15 1826 Sussex

Aha I have found another Harriet with father James.

Probably related though as both come from Hartfield which is a very small village.

1861 Address: Orchard Cottage, Hartfield Green, Hartfield
LANGRIDGE, James Head Married M 43 1818 Blacksmith
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Grace Wife Married F 43 1818 Blacksmiths Wife
Hellingly
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, George Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Blacksmith
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Harriet Daughter Unmarried F 18 1843 Blacksmiths Daughter
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Thomas Son M 12 1849 Scholar
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, James Son M 10 1851 Scholar
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Mary Ann Daughter F 8 1853 Scholar
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Grace Daughter F 0 (11M) 1861
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Nelson Granddaughter M 0 (3M) 1861
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
COOPER, Henry Apprentice Unmarried M 16 1845 Blacksmiths Apprentice
Hartfield
Sussex

1861 Address: Birling Village, Rag Lane
LANGRIDGE, Robert Head Married M 62 1799 Gamekeeper
...
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Sarah Wife Married F 57 1804
Worth
Sussex VIEW
LANGRIDGE, Robert Son Unmarried M 17 1844 Carpenter Apprentice
Birling
Kent VIEW
LANGRIDGE, James Brother Unmarried M 48 1813 Gamekeeper Greenwich Pensioner
West Hoathly
Sussex VIEW
ALLWORK, William Grandson M 6 1855
Birling
Kent VIEW
ALLWORK, Mary A Granddaughter F 4 1857
Snodland
Kent

interesting as another langridge allwork link

But the 1871 you asked for with Kate is John and Mary.

Also if you work through her sister Lucy you will see one of her children has Langridge as a middle name

Sorry that did not make much sense
I have searched for Possible Harrietts and looked through James

We have John and Mary or James and Grace both from Hartfield

I have to go for a while

1841 Address: St Ive, Hartfield
JESSOP, Joseph M 45 1796 Sussex VIEW
JESSOP, Eleanor F 28 1813 Sussex VIEW
JESSOP, George M 13 1828 Sussex VIEW
JESSOP, Joseph M 9 1832 Sussex VIEW
JESSOP, Phillippa F 6 1835 Sussex VIEW
JESSOP, Mary F 3 1838 Sussex VIEW
JESSOP, Eleonor F 0 (6 months) 1841 Sussex

Christine,
Your 1861 Census for Willington Street, Maidstone has John Langridge married to Mary. I'm wondering if these are relevant as on Harriet Miller (nee Langridge) Death Cert her parents are James and Mary. But nodoubt the marriage cert that I have ordered from GRO will confirm the correct father. Will just have to wait a couple of weeks.

1871Address: West Street, Sittingbourne
PAVEY, George Head M 37 1834 Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Philippa Wife F 36 1835 Sussex VIEW
PAVEY, Mary Ann Daughter F 15 1856 Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Ellen Daughter F 13 1858 Kent VIEW
PAVEY, George Son M 11 1860 Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Harry Son M 9 1862 Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Emily Daughter F 6 1865 Kent VIEW
PAVEY, John Jessop Son M 4 1867 Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Lizzie P Daughter F 1 1870 Kent VIEW
NOAKES, Thomas J Child Nurse M 1 1870 Kent

1891 Address: 52, West Street, Sittingbourne
PAVEY, George Head Married M 56 1835 Builder
Pembury
Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Phillippa Wife Married F 55 1836
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
PAVEY, John J Son Single M 24 1867 Builders Clerk
Sittingbourne
Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Lizzie Daughter Single F 21 1870
Sittingbourne
Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Sydney Son Single M 15 1876 Scholar
Sittingbourne
Kent

1901 Address: 52, West Street, Sittingbourne
PAVEY, Philippa Head Widow F 65 1836 Builder
Hartfield
Sussex VIEW
PAVEY, Lizzie Philippa Daughter Single F 31 1870
Sittingbourne
Kent VIEW
PAVEY, Emma Eliza Visitor Married F 36 1865
Sittingbourne
Kent

Oops sorry

1901 Address: Mount Ararat, Tovil Hill, Maidstone, Tovil
ALLWORK, Alfred Head Married M 52 1849 Retired Farmer Now Bookkeeper Paper Mill
Maidstone
Kent VIEW
ALLWORK, Lucy Elizabeth Wife F 49 1852
Loose
Kent VIEW
ALLWORK, John Langridge Son M 20 1881 Photographer
Leybourne
Kent VIEW
ALLWORK, May Lucy Daughter F 19 1882
Maidstone
Kent VIEW
ALLWORK, William Son M 16 1885
Maidstone
Kent VIEW
ALLWORK, Mary Daughter F 14 1887
Maidstone
Kent VIEW
DALE, Anni Julia Friend Single F 38 1863 Housekeeper (Domestic)
London VIEW
AMOS, Amy Judges Servant F 14 1887 General Servant (Domestic)
Sturry
Kent