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John was born 1889/90
Death certificate in 1958 states 68yrs old.
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Deaths can be out by a few years depends who reg the death
and may not of known his birth year your only saying 1-2 years out ,that is nothing to worry about
He was born the end of 1888 so call it end of ; 1889 take that away from 1958 makes him 69 yrs so he died in his 69th year making him 68 yr's
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there are 4 possible marriages for John kay in wigan
Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Kay John T Brown Wigan 8c 156
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Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Kay John Whalley Wigan 8c 127
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Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
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KAY John Plant Wigan 8c 96
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Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
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Kay John Moss Wigan 8c 83
and 1 in middlesbro
Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
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Burke Thomas Smart Middlesbro 9d 1007
Duggan Margaret E Kay Middlesbro 9d 1007
Kay John W Duggan Middlesbro 9d 1007
Smart Elizabeth Burke Middlesbro 9d 1007
but you have the marriage for John as John Hogan this one John Kay in middlesbro is not the marriage
\i think Sarah Kay is the wrong marriage.They may have gone to scotland visiting family or for work for a short time and Daniel was born,He could of been born premature while on holiday,who Knows specially if sarah was older.
Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%)
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Clarke Ethel Davies Middlesbro 9d 1093
Davies Joseph Clarke Middlesbro 9d 1093
HOGAN John Sowden Middlesbro 9d 1093
Sowden Gertrude Hogan Middlesbro' 9d 1093
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i'd hop for sarah wilkinson if it were me , Because If both names are on the cert then he could marry under Hogan,that would explain it.
But if you go for it Susan,Put both parents down on the order,form,you don't want to be charged again if it's wrong.at least you would get some money back.
we are forgetting ,also the marriage cert,this would confirm the father ,Daniel son of Daniel,which one,?
the sarah kay one would confirm one way or another .
or follow the other leed??
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Sorry susan
but at least you can illiminate that theary,good luck
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Births Dec 1926
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Hogan Sheila Guisbro' 9d 747
The district Guisbro' is an alternative name for Guisborough and it is in the county of North Riding of Yorkshire;
her parents marriage ,now we know this is correct
Marriages Jun 1918
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HOGAN John Middlesbro 9d 1093
The district Middlesbro is an alternative name for Middlesbrough and it is in the county of North Riding of Yorkshire;
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these are the possible marriages for johns brother Daniel born 1906 scotland check these out to see what is said about The father Daniel if you on ancestry you will need the right one scottish birth
Marriages Dec 1929 (>99%)
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Hogan Daniel Byrne Pancras 1b 196
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Marriages Dec 1930 (>99%)
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Hogan Daniel V Cooper Hendon 3a 957
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Marriages Jun 1931 (>99%)
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Hogan Daniel McCormick Leigh 8c 575
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Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)
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Hogan Daniel Moore Manchester S. 8d 508
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Marriages Jun 1936 (61%)
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Hogan Daniel Waterhouse Haslingden 8e 334
Hogan Daniel C Sullivan Bedwellty 11a 295
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dont know if you are still looking but my ancestors are hogans from pemberton
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im on boards looking for Michael Hogan regards linda c
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