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Marriages Jun 1914 (>99%)
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Shea Gertrude M A Sowden Middlesbro 9d 1300
Sowden James S Shea Middlesbro 9d 1300


The district Middlesbro is an alternative name for Middlesbrough and it is in the county of North Riding of Yorkshire;

and second marriage


Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%)
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HOGAN John Sowden Middlesbro 9d 1093
Sowden Gertrude Hogan Middlesbro' 9d 1093

somerset found this census in 1901 but no sighn of John


1901 census transcription details for: 43, Carter Street, Burnley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 3873 Folio: 53 Page: 11

Reg. District: Burnley Sub District: West Ward
Enum. District: 32 Ecclesiastical District: Gannow St John the Baptist
Parish: Burnley City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 43, Carter Street, Burnley
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation,
Disability Where Born
HOGAN, Daniel Head Married M 41 1860 Coal Miner Under Ground
Stratford
Essex
HOGAN, Elizth Wife Married F 41 1860
Burnley
Lancashire
HOGAN, Florce Amelia Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cotton Weaver
Burnley
Lancashire
HOGAN, Isabella Daughter F 9 1892
Burnley
Lancashire
HOGAN, Evelene Daughter F 7 1894
Burnley
Lancashire
HOGAN, Herbert Son M 5 1896
Burnley
Lancashire
HOGAN, Maud Daughter F 3 1898
Burnley
Lancashire

As you can see there is no son called John on here, although age wise he would fit in in between the two eldest girls.

Somerset

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this would be the marriage but i don't think it is the right daniel


Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%)
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HOGAN Daniel George St.Saviour 1d 130
Knight Elizabeth St. Saviour 1d 130

The district St. Saviour is an alternative name for St Saviour Southwark and it spans the boundaries of the counties of London and Surrey;

the other Daniel in 1911 was in bury lancashire

1901 census


John Hogen age 11 born Middlesbrough Yorks Yorkshire North Riding civil parish Ormesby Juvenile



these are the daniels in 1901 but no coal miner


Daniel C Hogan 22 Ireland Lincrick London St Pancras Seedman Corn

Daniel Hogan 4 Yorks Whitby Yorkshire Ruswarp Juvenile

Daniel Hogan 38 Ireland Manchester Manchester Railway Carter

Daniel Hogan 43 Ireland Yorkshire Rotherham Hammer Driver Steel Works

Daniel B Hogan 35 Ireland London Bromley Medical Practitioner

these are the John hogans

John Hogan 10 Lanc Liverpool Liverpool Liverpool Juvenile

John Hogan 11 Yorks Sheffield Yorkshire Ecclesall Bierlow Juvenile

John Hogan 11 Middlesbrough Yorks Yorkshire North Riding Ormesby Juvenile

John Hogan 12 Lancs Wigan Lancaster Pemberton Juvenile

John Hogan 14 Yorks Wakefield Yorkshire West Riding Sandal Magna Butchers Apprentice

John Hogan 14 Lancas Manchr Manchester North Manchester Juvenile

possible other marriages for daniel in lancaster

Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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CRAVEN Winifred Stockport 8a 121
Hogan Daniel Stockport 8a 121
MALONE Catherine Stockport 8a 121
McGUIRE Patrick Stockport 8a 121

The district Stockport spans the boundaries of the counties of Cheshire and Lancashire

these are the only births i can find on bdm for Hogan/Malone


Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
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Hogan Francis Malone Wigan 8c 42


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
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Hogan Thomas Malone Wigan 8c 102



Marriages Jun 1889 (>99%)
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Beswick Emma Manchester 8d 435
Hogan Daniel Manchester 8d 435
McGowan James Manchester 8d 435
PEACOCKE Anastasia Manchester 8d 435
Peacooke Anastasia Manchester 8d 435

The district Manchester is in the county of Lancashire


the next one goes with the 1901 census from somerset


Marriages Mar 1890 (>99%)
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Hargreaves Elizabeth Burnley 8e 282
HAWTHORN Mary Burnley 8e 282
Heap Cornelius Burnley 8e 282
Hogan Daniel Burnley 8e 282

The district Burnley spans the boundaries of the counties of Lancashire and West Riding of Yorkshire;

i have found a Catherine Hogan possible sister of John

1901 census

Catherine Hogan 20 Lancs Wigan Lancaster Pemberton Cotton Ring Spinner

John Hogan 12 Lancs Wigan Lancaster Pemberton Juvenile

this also ties in with the 1881 census for Daniel Hogan's sister,she was born wigan

Catherine Hogan 68 Ireland Lancaster Coniston

Austin Hogan 20 Lanc Wigan Lancaster Pemberton Labourer At Colliery Above Ground


David Hogan 39 Lancs Wigan Lancaster Pemberton Coal Miner Hewer

John Hogan 21 Wigan Lancs Lancashire Pemberton Bricklayer

Mary Hogan 41 Ireland Lancaster Pemberton

Elizth E Hogan 11 Lanc Wigan Lancaster Pemberton Juvenile

William Hogan 6 Lancs Pemberton Lancaster Pemberton Juvenile


Michael Hogan 45 Ireland Lancaster Pemberton Labourer Colliery Above Ground

Michael Hogan 15 Lanc Wigan Lancaster Pemberton Labourer At Colliery Above Ground


Thomas Hogan 8 Lancs Pemberton Lancaster Pemberton Juvenile


Thomas Hogan 28 Lancs Coniston Lancaster Pendleton Coachman Domestic


Edward Hogan 13 Lanc Wigan Lancaster Pemberton Labourer At Colliery Above Ground

Sarah A Hogan 33 Lancs Wigan Lancaster Pemberton

the only daniel Hogans i can find to do with coal are
1901 census

Daniel Hogan 29 Glam Pontlottyn Glamorganshire Gelligaer Coal Miner Hewer

Daniel Hogan 41 Essex Stratford Burnley Coal Miner

and this labourer which could tie in with the catherine hogan 68


Daniel Hogan 66 Ireland Lancaster General Labourer
Catherine Hogan 68 Ireland Lancaster Coniston

and this is the daniel hogans death in burnley that goes with the census from somerset

Deaths Mar 1934 (93%)
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Hogan Daniel 73 Burnley 8e 274

right .back to irish born 1901 census these are the only Johns i can find in 1901 birth c1897


John Hogan 14 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park
Bottler



Daniel Hogan 3 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Juvenile



John Hogan 14 Ireland London Battersea Juvenile


Jane Hogan 52 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park



Mary A Hogan 46 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park

William Hogan 56 Ireland Lanc Liverpool C B Toxteth Park General Dealer


Patrick Hogan 48 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Coal Heaver



John Hogan 52 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Shopkeeper

John Hogan 41 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Coach Porter

Edward J Hogan 46 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Coachman Domestic


Henry Hogan 38 Ireland Dublin Surrey Wimbledon South Wine Merchants


Catherine Hogan 24 Ireland Borough Of West Ham West Ham

Catherine Hogan 58 Ireland Wexford Liverpool Toxteth Park


John Hogan 40 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Miner

John Hogan 14 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Bottler


ellen Hogan 5 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Juvenile

Thomas Hogan 11 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park Juvenile

Jane Hogan 36 Ireland Liverpool C B Toxteth Park

and in battersea 1901

Catherine Hogan 64 Ireland London Battersea

John Hogan 14 Ireland London Battersea Juvenile

Hi Susan,

Sablon has asked me to have a little'dig around' here to see if I can help.

Not sure if I can find anything else for you but willing to try!

Can we start off with what we know - i.e. info from the certs?

You have a marriage cert for John in 1918?

Can you give all the details from this please - date, place, names, ages, fathers, occupations, addresses + witnesses etc.

Dea x

Dea this is the marriage

Marriages Jun 1918 (>99%)
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HOGAN John Sowden Middlesbro 9d 1093
Sowden Gertrude Hogan Middlesbro' 9d 1093



The district Middlesbro is an alternative name for Middlesbrough and it is in the county of North Riding of Yorkshire;


Fathers name Daniel Hogan
coal miner
dosnt say where john was born on cert, living in Middlesbro at time of wedding
aged 29 years when married and a batchelor
gertrude Shea married a Sowden then widowed and married John

Johns address at time of marriage was 32 West St Middlesbrough

I found a Daniel Hogan in 1881 living with his Brother inlaw and sister he was a coal miner,but not sure

Yes, I have the marriage and I have all the Hogan's you have but there are just TOO many tangents here.

I need to go back to something 'concrete' and work backwards and forwards from there!

Dea Xxx

Dea ,that is the facts from susan on the marriage cert age ,father etc,I have sent a pm to susan for the names of witnesses and told her to answer here,

xx

Thanks,

Dea x

Hello, Oh my goodness so much info, i have brain ache !! but in a good way, thank you and also thank you Dea for taking the trouble.

Witnesses on marriage certificate-

H. ? Richardson
T or I McCarthy