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I have had more than one cert have a different name to the census, they weren't too careful with their transcribing. Even my nan's sister plain old florence gets all sorts of variations on each census.

I guess what I'm trying to say is "don't try and create another mystery"!! It is the right family, just one wrong name, and that happens all the time, ask evie beavie!!

I have found the Isabels under Isabelle/isabella/isabel and isabell,but not under sarah before.
sadgroves I find under sadengren and all sorts,but she has always been some kind of isabel.

And her middle name wasn't Sarah -- this birthdate is a little off, but surely there weren't that many Isabel Sadgrove-s around. Marriage cert will give father's name?

ISABEL ELIZA SADGROVE
Birth: 11 MAR 1834
Christening: 01 JUN 1834 Stockwell New Chapel Independent, Lambeth, Surrey, England
Father: WM. HARRY SADGROVE
Mother: JULIA CROLE HAMMOND
Batch No.: C097911

read my previous post you tired thing you!!!!!!!!!

No, it deffo says Sarah on image.
Harold died 1872.
I have the 1868 marriage cert too.
I am not disputing its the right family ,as I believe it is,and my they did naf move a lot.
Just the wifes name.

But no, the image very definitely and very clearly says Sarah for wife's name in 1871. Isabella the daughter underneath her is completely different.

It could have been misread from the household schedule, but that seems unlikely. Although the 1/2 is written differently from Harold's 1/2.

Oh, and Isabella's age is 1 1/2 clear as a bell and beyond question, too.

Huh.

Marriages Dec 1868
Pullen Thomas James Hackney 1b 639
Sadgrove Isabel Hackney 1b 639

Probably just a transcribers error, the kids are all too old on ancestry and their transcribers can't read the surname ..killen/pullen. the writing is a bit fancy. Isabella's age could read 17 (1 1/2)!! ??? linda :)

HIS WIFES NAME IS WRONG!!
Her name was Isabel.
Where she gone then??
She didnt die til 1917 and I have her on 1911 with a daughter Ruth.

Well blow me,harold must have died then?
Hes not on 1881
off for a shuftie.

Righto, go to bed now another mystery unravelled...don't you love it?? I normally go straight to fmp if ancestry ain't got it, but this time I was checking immigration etc for some dopey reason!! :)

DING, DONG,!!

You wonderful researcher you,go to t,top of the class.
It didnt enter my head to go" find my past "as my sub is with ancestry and I only use FMP for 1911 and overseas.
Thank you ever so.

Isabel pullen married samuel wallace harris 1905(remember?}and her mother isabel was a Sadgrove before marriage.
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Lordy, lordy.

It's PULLEN, of course.

Isabella is 1 1/2.
Harold is 1 1/2.

They are dientified as TWINS plain as day.

Ha, it's much better at Ancestry.

Thos J Killen 35
Sarah Killen 34
Isabella Killen 17
Harold Killen 1 1 month
William Anderson 22
Ann Riley 18

got 'em, 1871 census findmy past, Rg 10 847 page 20. Not coming up on ancestry????

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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PULLEN, Thos J Head M 35 1836 Middlesex VIEW
PULLEN, Sarah Wife F 34 1837 Middlesex VIEW
PULLEN, Isabella Daughter F 1 1870 Middlesex VIEW
PULLEN, Harold Son M 1 1870 Middlesex VIEW
ANDERSON, William Visitor M 22 1849 Cumberland VIEW
RILEY, Ann Servant F 18 1853 Middlesex VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
847 Folio:
18 Page:
29

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
Croydon EnumerationDistrict:
35 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Croydon Municipal Borough:
Address:
Cargreen Road Broadland, Croydon County:
Surrey


Thos j is a solicitor!! Na na :))))

what's this "isabel sadgrove/pullen? you've forgotten to tell us something. And yoou're right nothing coming up on the 1871 yet. :)

And much better to be a gentleman than a "pant liner"I would have thought.
Mind you some men I suppose,Na dont go there.........

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You are wonderful arent you Janey,thank you.
never mind about the enter key,I will let you see that one at a later date.
And that comes under KB anyway

BUT WHERE IS HE WITH ??
wife isabel and child isabel born 1869 in 1871,you aint found that yet.

This lot sure liked calling themselves a gentleman,thats what isabel sadgrove/pullen has down for her fathers occ on MC to thomas james.
But none of the women seem to be listed as a gentlewoman!
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Nyah ha ha. Look who I found. I think. (Well, you asked me!)

1861

Name: Thos Jas Puller
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Brighton

Samuel P Palmer 60
Elizabeth Palmer 62
Elizabeth S Palmer 27
Charles Bert 37
Thos Jas Puller 24


Occupation: ... well, I thought it said "Pant liner", but I make it "Gentleman".

Will he do then??

Thank you for that Linda ,but I already have that,plus a marriage for james thomas pullen to mary jane chell on 05 1833 in shoreditch.

The only census I am missing is 1861 AND 1871 for thomas james pullen.
cant find him on either.
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