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Names can give lots of clues. That is why I was asking about Hills.Scotland in particular has naming patterns where middle names are grandparents surnames. Someone told me the rules once. Wish I had kept them safe.

No I have no access to 1911 census.
I imagine Frank to be about the same age as my Father Herbert Robert John Roy who was born in Wandsworth London 1908.
You are a gem thank you for all your help.
Evelyn

1871 Address: Swan Street, Bicester Market End, Bicester
HADLAND, Chas Head M 53 1818 Oxfordshire VIEW
HADLAND, Harriet Wife F 51 1820 Oxfordshire VIEW
HADLAND, Ann Daughter F 28 1843 Oxfordshire VIEW
HADLAND, Ricd Son M 25 1846 Oxfordshire VIEW
HADLAND, Wm Charles Son M 14 1857 Oxfordshire

I think Robert C Roys Parents were
Peter Roy and Jean Cairncross but that is all I know.
Incidently I have a brother Robert Roy

1861 Address: Kings End, Bicester Kings End, Bicester
HADLAND, Richard Head Married M 78 1783 Retired Baker
Bicester
Oxfordshire VIEW
HADLAND, Ann Wife F 66 1795
Wendlebury
Oxfordshire VIEW
HADLAND, Ann Granddaughter Unmarried F 18 1843
Bicester
Oxfordshire

The initial that has come up several times is M.
The letter M can be confused with H as it has two straight sides. Trust me I know as it comes up in my line of work. I was wondering where yoou got the name from as it is not on what we have found so far. I am still not 100% of the 1901 census. Have you tried the 1911. we would want to find Frank with them. Any ideas on his age?

1871 Address: College Pl, St Pancras
ROY, Robert C Lodger M 27 1844 Scotland

I have no idea where the Hill comes from.
I have some info on the family and Louisa is down as Louisa Harriett Hill.as I said she was my grandads sister. He married Emily Maud Riggs in London 1906

Where did the Hill come in?

Yes Christine those are my Great Grandparents

This marriage is in the same reg area

Marriages Mar 1875 (>99%)
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Hadland Ann St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 578
KEMP Arthur St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 578
Roy Robert St Geo Han Sq 1a 578
Watts Harriett Elizabeth W St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 578

Yes Christine Herbert Walter Roy was my beloved Grandad the kindest man ever born,he was born in Pimlico

1881 Address: 7, Aylesford Street, St George Hanover Square
ROY, Robert Head Married M 39 1842 House Carpenter
Scotland
ROY, Ann Wife Married F 38 1843
Bicester
Oxfordshire
ROY, Louisa Daughter Single F 5 1876
Westminster
Middlesex
ROY, Charles Son Single M 4 1877
Bicester
Oxfordshire
ROY, Herbert Son Single M 0 1881
Westminster
Middlesex

Slow down.
that was a suggestion.
You will need to confirm it first.
For a start that was Harriett not Louisa Harriett. Not impossible but not perfect. And it is James not Thomas James. I am still looking for other matches.


1891
Address: 33, Darien Road, Battersea

ROY, Annie Head Widow F 48 1843 Monthly Nurse
Bicester
Oxfordshire VIEW
ROY, Louisa H M Daughter F 15 1876 Nurse Maid Domestic
Pimlico
London VIEW
ROY, Herbert W Son M 10 1881 Scholar
Pimlico
London VIEW
GALE, Louisa Visitor Single F 38 1853 Laundress
Battersea
London VIEW
ROY, Robert Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Pimlico
London

Wow Christine I could have lots of cousins that I didnt know existed, you are very kind to help like this, thank you so much. The name Frank was mentioned quiet often by my father could he also have been a son I wonder. This is very exciting.
Evelyn

Yes Christine I think youve got it, the Garrett name certainly rings a bell, how can we find out if she had children or when she died. My father spoke a lot about her and she sounded like a very nice kind lady.
Thank you so much you are a star

poss

Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)
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GARRETT Thomas James St.Saviour 1d 60
RICHARDS George Edward St Saviour 1d 60
Roy Louisa St. Saviour 1d 60
Trask Alice Gertrude St. Saviour 1d 60

Yes Christine that is certainly her birth, what I want to know is when and who did she marry. Thank you for your help

To the best of my knowledge she was still in London in the 1940s, possibly Streatham, I think she ran a small cafe.

Births Sep 1875 (>99%)


ROY Louisa Harriet M St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 364