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Just wondering whether Nellie is an abbreviation for Eleanor - any chance she was born/registered Eleanor, but later known as Nellie, so put both names on the marriage cert?

Nellie is an abbreviation for Ellen, so could just as easily be an abbreviation for Eleanor.

sorry if I am repeating anything that has already been asked. I just want to get things clear in my head and with so many pages to read through, I don't want to miss anything.

So you believe she was born Eleanor Nellie Cooley 1901 in Mile End according to her brothers army record, and later became Eleanor Nellie King when she married.

Although no birth has been located for her.

She also at one point used just Eleanor Cooley.

Do you have all the birth certs for her children? Is her name consistant on those or does it vary and if so, what were all the variations, even any slight spelling differences.

Were they any stories about her disappearance? Was there ever a divorce between her and her Mr King?

also anything else I have missed that might help me do a search (of course possibly just repeating what others have already done) but another pair of eyes never hurts and even if I can't find her I might be able to offer some suggestions.

It does appear that her birth wasn't registered, unless she was badly transcribed.

It might be worth contacting the local register office to Mile End (not sure which office deals with that area) and putting in an enquiry with them, you have an exact date of her birth from her brother's army record and know her parents name. So they may help, worth a try anyway.

Another option is, you I think know where he parents were living in 1901 (obviously before she was born), if you contact the local archives to that area, they may be able to find out the local parish for you and then try and find a baptism.

Of course finding her birth or baptism, isnt going to help find out what happened to her. But it might help with knowing exactly what name she was born with.

Hi Sib Sorry I missed your reply Eleanor was living in 1951 at 9 Gray Avenue Dagenham Essex

Hope you see this

Deb

where was Eleanor living prior to her disappearance? that might help with some clues.

sorry if I have missed you already mentioning that.

Wonderful. I just added a reply (unimportant, ruling out another Richard), and now I can't see the thread at all. I assume this is one of today's temporary glitches ... just testing now ...

Searching in 1891 for a Richard born in Bishopsgate, I considered a "Richard H Groves" in Spitalfields, born Spitalfields 1886, matching a Richard William Groves registered in Whitechapel 1886, in but he's in the 1901 with the same parents.

Hi Debbie - can't post in your thread on the Help Clinic :(
but I was was curious!

I've read through quickly -- has anyone noted that brother Richard is not with the family in the 1891 census?

Richard Cooley 27
Ellen Cooley 26
James Cooley 4
Catherine Cooley 3/

He was the eldest, and the one she was living with in 1911, and teh one who put her name on his military papers. Do we know where he was? or have I missed something?

I'm just wondering whether he and she were siblings, but maybe not actually children of Richard and Ellen.

Also, I'm wondering how you ruled out the death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Nellie Bradley
Name: Nellie Bradley
> Birth Date: 22 Jun 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1986
Age at death (estimated): 85
Registration district: Nottingham
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 8
Page: 993

-- you say it isn't your Eleanor, but not what it was on the death certificate that told you that.

nudge

NUDGE
Thanks again to everybody who has taken time in helping me

Deb K

Thanks Moody Blue

yes I do Have info regarding the brother's its just Eleanor I can't find

thanks for looking anyway

Deb K

Sorry, just reread your thread and realise that you have the information regarding her brothers.

You probably have this but maybe useful for reference:

1911 census transcription details for: 32 Allas Road Bethnal Green E
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN1404 RG78PN49 RD17 SD1 ED23 SN167

Reg. District: Bethnal Green Sub District: Bethnal Green North East
Parish: Bethnal Green Enum. District: 23
Address: 32 Allas Road Bethnal Green E
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
COOLEY, Richard W Head Married M 25 1886 News Agent London Bishopsgate
COOLEY, Alice Wife Married
2 years F 26 1885 London Bethnal Green
COOLEY, Richard W Son M 1 1910 London Bethnal Green
COOLEY, Elenoar Sister F 10 1901 London Mile End

Hi,

Could this be a marriage for her brother James?

BAYFORD Florence E Mile End Old Town.1c 679 4 1910
COOLEY James Mile End Old Town.1c 679 4 1910


1911 census transcription details for: 90 Harford ST
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN1610 RG78PN56 RD21 SD1 ED39 SN240

Reg. District: Mile End Old Town Sub District: Mile End Old Town South Western
Parish: Mile End Old Town Enum. District: 39
Address: 90 Harford ST
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
COOLEY, James Head Married M 24 1887 Packing Cane Maker City of London
COOLEY, Florence Wife Married F 23 1888 London Stepney
COOLEY, Michael Brother Single M 16 1895 Van Boy London Mile End E

NUDGE PLEASE :)

Thanks Moody Blue

I will have a look at that one

it could be a possibility

Deb

Not all the writing is clear on this entry but maybe another pair of eyes...........

marriage
Eleanor N King.?.....George H Lawson
Surrey N
1st qtr 1964
vol 5g page 693

possibly Eleanor M unfortunately!

Thanks Dee

Thanks for all your time in this and I hope you can walk straight now.

I really thought you had something then, but never mind my time will come hopefully :)

Moody Blue

We have ruled out the Nottingham one but the other's I will Look in to

This woman is a mystery perhaps I need to go a see a medium to give me a few clues on what happend to her :)

Thanks again for all your help

Deb

these are deaths listed 1984-2000 for Nellie with dob 22/06/1901


Name Title Date Of Birth District District Code Volume No. Volume Page Register No. Entry No. Month Year
Month of Reg. Year of Reg. Add Comment View Comment

BRADLEY Nellie 22-JUN-1901 NOTTINGHAM 8 993 JUL 1986 7 86


NIXON Nellie 22-JUN-1901 STOCKPORT 39 1237 NOV 1988 11 88


PARRETT Nellie 22-JUN-1901 WORTHING 18 2202 AUG 1990 8 90


WETHERALL Nellie 22-JUN-1901 SALFORD 39 945 JAN 1989 1 89

Deb, sorry hun............ I was keeping my fingers AND toes crossed for you (didn't 'alf walk funny!! LOL!!).

Your lady seems to have vanished, wasn't that a film??? The lady vanishes.

Keep on plodding along, hopefully she'll turn up.

Dee x

Hi

Just to let you all know. The details Dee gave looked really hopefull, But they are not my Eleanor. I was really wishing they was the correct one's as this woman is doing my head in.

So back to the drawing board

Any more suggestions ?

But I must say a BIG thanks to everyone who has taken the time and effort in trying to get to the bottom of this.

Deb