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I'll bet all of us come back and ponder this in spare moments ...
Well, I've been looking again at deaths since 1969 of Nellie-s and Eleanor-s with birthday 22 June either 1900 or 1901. (Birthdates are only given starting in 1969, so if she died before that, the task would be monumental.) Since what we're really looking for is what happened to Eleanor/Nellie after 1951.
She said she was 25 when she married in October 1925 = June 1900.
Richard's war records say 1901.
My grandfather thought he was born in 1900. He learned when he was 65 (well, 64), and had to get his birth cert for pension, that he was born in 1901. (And his given names weren't what he thought they were.) It may have to do with that "in my 25th year" business. She may have thought it was 1900, whether or not it was, as she stated 25 when she married.
I've ruled out numerous deaths by finding their marriages, or at least likely marriages for now.
This one is interesting.
Name: Nellie Burdass
Birth Date: 22 Jun 1900
Death Registration Month/Year: 1971
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5a
Page: 16538
The steps:
There is no Nellie Burdass birth (or any name like) 1900-1901.
There is this marriage:
Name: Nellie Reaston
Spouse: John E Burdass
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1953
Registration district: Buckrose
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire- East Riding
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 80
There is no Nellie or Eleanor (or Ellen after 1871) Reaston birth ever.
There are no Burdass-Reaston births to that marriage.
The thing is, Reaston is very much a Yorkshire name. And there is one marriage of a Nellie or Eleanor or Ellen to a Reaston, Nellie Plant, in1915 in Yorkshire, with births 1918-1930. There isn't a Nellie Plant birth in 1900 to fit. But there's also no Nellie Reaston death to fit.
One way or another, there's no good accounting for the Nellie Burdass who died in 1971 in Chelsea.
One other Burdass death ever in Chelsea:
Name: William E Burdass
Death Registration Month/Year: 1965
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5a
Page: 673
The only William E Burdass marriage ever is to Mary Barton, 1951 in Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire. Certainly the William E Burdass born 1922 in Grimsby; there is one birth to that marriage.
This is the only other William E Burdass birth ever:
Births Jun 1883
BURDASS William Emerson C Glanford B. 7a 734
and there is no marriage for him.
Now, there were two births: Nellie Elsie Burdass Q4 1896 Glanford Brigg and Ellen Burdass Q3 1895 Glanford Brigg, Lincolnshire. Neither is right by year, only the Ellen might be right by quarter. Nellie married Walmsley 1920, Glanford Brigg. Ellen, I dunno.
So what are the chances?
It's rather odd for William Burdass to turn up in Chelsea. Might your Eleanor/Nellie have found herself a sugar daddy??
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It is a possibilty that Eleanor found herself a sugar daddy, I would not doubt anything regarding Eleanor
to be very honest with you Janey I really dont know which way to turn with this or what cert's I should get to try and get to the bottom of this woman.
My dad has only obtained a photo of his mum recently from his nephew (at my dad's sisters wedding) before that he had 1 photo only a back view of her.
They was talking a few weeks ago my dad was saying that im trying to find out about his mum (Eleanor) and his nephew just happend to say that he had a photo of her (Eleanor) at his mum's wedding.(my dads sister)
I have read your post regarding your Ponton family so I do reliase things dont happen over night. But you think that grandparent's should be straight forward as you should know a bit about them (how wrong am I)
Anyway I will keep looking and maybe oneday things might just pop in to place
Thanks again for all your help in this
Deb
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Maybe I may invest in this one
Name: Nellie Reaston
Spouse: John E Burdass
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1953
Registration district: Buckrose
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire- East Riding
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 80
Deb
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I'd go for the death certificate for Nellie Burdass instead. She looks to have been connected with the William E Burdass, rather than the John.
But what the heck. I'd go for both. ;)
It's even possible that the Nellie who married the John was the Nellie who died in Chelsea, with the John being somehow connected with the William ...
Looking back, I see I'm guilty of getting too enthralled and posting things I shouldn't. That Reaston-Burdass marriage. Quite recent. We should delete it in a day or too after anybody who might want to ponder has pondered.
A possibly relevant death:
Name: John Burdass
Death Registration Month/Year: 1961
Age at death (estimated): 67
Registration district: Buckrose
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 2a
Page: 35
but not John E:
Births Mar 1894
Burdass John Driffield 9d 319
But the only John Es were born in Glanford Brigg, 1861, 1882 and 1914 (mother Hardy). So I'd say the 1894 birth, 1953 marriage and 1961 death are likely the same.
Marriages Dec 1912
Burdass John E Hardy Bridlington 9d 811 - must be the 1882 birth
Hardy Emily Burdass Bridlington 9d 811
I give up, I can't find a death for Emily Burdass to fit either ...
1911
BURDASS WILLIAM E 1883 28 Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire
BURDASS MRS VIOLETA 1871 40
BURDASS FREDERIC J 1897 14
BURDASS BLANCHE 1899 12
Absolutely blasted if I can find them in 1901 or 1891.
I'm just thinking that John who was the father of John E 1914 is a brother of William E 1883 ... who would then be John E's uncle ...
My Ponton thing is ancient history; your search is a bit more pressing!
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I will invest in both
You never now we might hit the jack pot (fingers crossed)
and Janey you have been a great help in helping me with this
All the best
Deb
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