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http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1163343

horses kimberleys etc

Hi DET and Colin, Thanks for those pieces of information. I haven't yet ventured into the world of Parish Records, well I don't think I have!! Must have a looksee some time.

About the B on the Victorian shipping lists. That makes more sense than Brisbane. Iam now of the understanding that the ship came from London via Melbourne to Sydney then onto Brisbane. MIEK hopped off in Sydney and Charles continued onto Brisbane and then returned to Sydney.

I agree about the superiority of the Victorian records. Would also like to find a better way of searching incoming shipping to the UK. The only version available seems to be through Ancestry.

Just two small contributions. In Victorian passenger lists, the "B" stands for "from British ports" as distinct from "F" (foreign).
I am not absolutely certain of this, but I think Victorian lists include all passengers even where their final destination is elsewhere, e.g. Brisbane, whioch is in Queensland.
Victorian Shipping records are far superior to those of NSW, and Queensland's were pathetic but are now improving.

Me, y'mean?

My family first set foot in the new world in 1909, same as your couple here. ;) Actually, one set of gr-grparents in 1908, then the other set on that side in 1909 (they were the ones who first went to Australia and had a couple of offspring there 20 years before), and on the other side, just the grandparents, in 1923ish with one kid. I got no "Canadian roots". All the stuff at Ancestry is for proper United Empire Loyalists and such. ;)

By the way. have you seen this info from Ancestry??

Historical Canadian Censuses 1851-1916
We're pleased to announce the launch of three new additions to our Canadian Census collection - the 1861, 1871 and 1881 censuses.

The Canadian Census collection represents the first time ever that the 1851/2, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901, 1906, 1911 and 1916 censuses will be fully searchable online and fully indexed in one place. With more than 32 million names and 1.3 million images, the collection spans a key 65-year period in Canadian history.

Now people around the world can research their Canadian roots faster and easier than ever before.

Yes. Rather travel weary. Even more confused. Whole pile more of unanswered questions and more work to do.

Wondering if searching the UK census for Mary Kimberley will produce her whereabouts between 1891 and 1901.

I am also about to embark on a search which will involve one of the Carter/Kimberley children, her spouses and their children. This will, I hope, discover living relatives. Not able to search through the historical indexes as the dates are outside of the allowable criteria. Will have to rely on family research networks.

Pat pat pat.

Somebody's back, that is. ;)

Spent four hours talking to the historical society ladies of Picton. Have seen the fiche records of the baptisms and the school enrolment registers for the children. Also some of the birth records.

On the public records the children are registered as Carter. In official birth registrations they all appear to be registered as Kimberley. Still missing information for the two oldest children Nellie and Albert. School records indicate that the children attended Tahmoor school and some of them left there to attend schools in the Sydney area.

Charles shows on the electoral rolls for the Tahmoor area between 1913 and 1919. There is a gap in the information between 1909 and 1912. Both Charles and Mariann appear at the same address on the 1930 and 1936 rolls.

I have an image from the Marathon passenger lists from the port of London to Sydney NSW, 21st August 1909. It contains CE Carter, aged 33, born Sunderland as an AB in the crew list, and Mary Kimberley, as a servant in the third class passenger list. Voyage is London via Melbourne to Sydney.

Found another image dated in September 1909 with CE Carter on the Marathon as a crew member. Voyage was from the port of Newcastle NSW to Sydney NSW. Mariann is not on the passenger list.

I have Richard marrying Mary with Ann as their child. I need to look at your suggestions in more depth. Will do so on my return. Thanks. This lot requires more writing and sorting.

ARROW, a parish and suburb of Alcester, in the hundred of Barlichway, in the county of Warwick, 1 mile from Alcester, its post town. It is situated on the river Arrow, which works several mills, and contains the hamlet of Oversley. The living is a rectory* in the diocese of Worcester, value £248, in the patronage of the Marquis of Hertford. The church, which is dedicated to the Holy Trinity, is ancient and has a tower, which was rebuilt in 1760. Ragley Hall, a mansion erected by Lord Conway, about 1750, is the seat of the Marquis of Hertford: it is a magnificent pile, three stories high, with four faces of great architectural beauty, and contains a dining hall of 60 feet by 40, together with a library of 30,000 volumes, and many ancient paintings by Rubens, Vandyke, and others. It is at present unoccupied, and is open for the inspection of visitors on every day except Sundays."

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Arrow with Weethley is a civil parish in the Stratford district of Warwickshire, England. The parish lies midway between Redditch and Evesham. It contains the villages of Arrow and Weethley. The parishes were merged in 2004. [1]

Arrow is a village in the Stratford-on-Avon Warwickshire, England. From Alcester the River Arrow flows southwards to the Avon, and to the west of the river the present road to Evesham joins that to Worcester at a busy junction where, near the Old Toll House, stands the hamlet of Arrow, a group of modernized black and white farm workers' cottages which have risen up the social scale to become homes for business people.


Hey I am planning on going that direction in July after some of mine.

yep
all their children are after 1807 and mary was born 1791

Found some children for John and Temperance but not Mary

could be he married twice

In 1841 There were just 14 pages of people living in Arrow. Very small village. and there were one Phillips couple. From their ages they could be her parents

1841 Address: Arrow, Arrow
PHILIPS, John M 65 1776 Warwickshire
PHILIPS, Temperance F 55 1786 Warwickshire

Athough they have the same surname it is not impossible
It is an extracted record
Phillips is not an ucommon name


I have a Flack whomarried her 1st cousin also a Flack. When he died she married another first cousin also a Flack.
Kept the paperwork simple.

Likeley marriage of Richard and Mary

This is Mary's birthplace


IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
British Isles
Search Results | Download | Print

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RICHARD PHILLIPS Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening:
Death:
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Marriages:
Spouse: MARY PHILLIPS Family
Marriage: 27 OCT 1814 Arrow, Warwick, England



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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M023652

poss

1841 Address: Market Place, Kineton
PHILLIPS, Richard M 50 1791 Warwickshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Mary F 50 1791 Warwickshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Richard M 20 1821 Warwickshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Samuel M 15 1826 Warwickshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Charles M 13 1828 Warwickshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Eliza F 8 1833 Warwickshire

could do with them 1851 to match family

That one will have to wait. My log book is packed and I'm not unpacking it again. I think I might have the Phillips on Ancestry will check at home tonight. I know there was one name I was stumped with because of the choices and insufficient information.

just to remind you

1861 Address: Rosmove Cottage, Regent Street, Cheltenham
PHILLIPS, Richard Head Married M 76 1785 Gardener
Beckford
Worcestershire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Mary Wife Married F 70 1791
Arrow
Warwickshire VIEW
PHILLIPS, Alfred Son Unmarried M 31 1830 Butler
Hampton
Worcestershire VIEW
ROBERTS, Emma Boarder Unmarried F 14 1847 Scholar
Cheltenham
Gloucestershire VIEW
KIMBERLY, Alfred Boarder Unmarried M 4 1857 Scholar
Cheltenham
Gloucestershire

RICHARD PHILIPS Pedigree
Male
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 15 AUG 1784 Besford, Worcester, England


Parents:
Father: WILLIAM PHILIPS Family
Mother: SARAH Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C021364


children of richard and sarah phillips


1. SARAH PHILIPS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 FEB 1781 Besford, Worcester, England

2. NANCY PHILIPS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 MAR 1787 Besford, Worcester, England

3. MARY PHILLIPS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 APR 1779 Besford, Worcester, England

4. RICHARD PHILIPS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 AUG 1784 Besford, Worcester, England

5. ELIZABETH PHILLIPS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 13 OCT 1776 Besford, Worcester, England