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Trying to find???relatives.

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Robert

Robert Report 22 Jun 2009 21:02

Seems like she really was sick then????

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 22 Jun 2009 20:59



hA ,ha.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 22 Jun 2009 20:57

The death of mary ann,just before the 1911 census.

Deaths Mar 1911 (>99%)
Seaton Mary A 45 Wandsworth 1d 300

Robert

Robert Report 22 Jun 2009 20:54

Is that Mary ann Legassick or Letsgetsick

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 22 Jun 2009 20:51

Give over pest,
if you think Im leaving this now, you gotta nother think coming.

Now for the watsons.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 22 Jun 2009 20:45

Oh dear,another Mary ann


1901 England Census
about Edith Alice Seaton
Name: Edith Alice Seaton
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Phillip Henry
Mother's Name: Mary Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Battersea, London, England

Civil parish: Battersea
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Northwest Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Henry Seaton 34<<<carman
Mary Ann Seaton 34
Mary Ann Rosetta Seaton 12
Edith Alice Seaton 9
Lilian Margaret Seaton 7
Daisy May Seaton 1
Harry Davis 45<<boarder



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Marriages Jun 1888 99%)
LEGASSICK Mary Ann Wandsworth 1d 814
SEATON Philip Henry Wandsworth 1d 814


Bit of a mouthful her maiden name was,bet the transcriptions for that on census will be fun.


Robert

Robert Report 22 Jun 2009 20:44

Please,please finish your gate and do not get any ideas about burying me underneath the concrete,seriously Viv, please do not put yourself out. Its not that often i get the chance to look up G.R. and B.d.m,and i really do value your opinion on these searchs.by the way,save on your water bill,looks like its going to rain down this neck of the woods.....the pest

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 22 Jun 2009 20:36

1911 census.

HOUSEHOLD SEATON EDITH A F 1892 19 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD SEATON DAISY M F 1900 11 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD SEATON LILLIAN M F 1894 17 Wandsworth London
HOUSEHOLD SEATON PHILLIP H M 1866 45 Wandsworth London

No mum in residence,but what a pleasant change to have a phillip instead of a john or tom dick and harry.

Back with 1901 in a mo if I can find them.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 22 Jun 2009 20:30

your mum and brothers births

Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Watson Dorothy E V Seaton Willesden 3a 476

Births Jun 1921 (>99%)
Watson George V Seaton Wandsworth 1d 1039

Births Dec 1929 (>99%)
Watson Reginald P Seaton Wandsworth 1d 619

I will be back after having a snoop for their parents.

Beats finishing making a garden gate,but I will have to water plants later,maybe I will just concrete everything over,and save a fortune on my mtered water bill.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 22 Jun 2009 20:23

You do not need to go to kew for marriage birth,certs etc,in fact you wont get them from there.
You will find lots of other things there though,like Chelsea pensioners records I believe.
You have to get them from the GRO {online}at £7 a time,never pay more.
Heres the website

www.gro.gov.uk

OR the reg office of their origin,which normally takes longer than the GRO online ones.

I will now go look at your maternal side.
VIV

Robert

Robert Report 22 Jun 2009 16:56

Thank you kindly for all your time and effort Vivienne,now for something completly different???(cheeky pest),Edith alice seaton born wandsworth 2nd qrt 1891 (1d-682) and George frederick watson born wandsworth1st qrt 1890(1d-632).Grandparents mothers side.They married in wandsworth 2nd qrt 1913(1d-1086).Mother was born in willesden on the 21/4/ 1916(3a-476) i know she had a brother called Reginald and maybe one other brother?.Vivienne i am trying to get as much information as possible before i have to make the trip up to Kew.I have made a note of all the volume numbers and page numbers so far on the white/collins side as well as the above ones.A big THANKYOU in advance......the pest.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 18 Jun 2009 22:54

Trees on this site I can NOT understand,too many twigs on them.
I get lost after the first sapling,even on my own that has no branches and is just a trunk with sticky out bits.
All my best work is on paper,in a file,in my desk draw.

I hope you have been able to sort out the Collins and White lot.

The only way of having a chance to find Agnes White/collins anywhere prior to marriage FOR SURE is to get the marriage cert for her fathers name,then if your luck of the irish holds we may throw something up.

Expensive hobby this,so I hope you have long arms and short pockets.

Robert

Robert Report 18 Jun 2009 22:39

Hiya Vivienne,sorry i was not about when you kindly gave me more info:(than my man- brain can handle) on the White/collins connections.would it make it any easier if i allowed you access to my humble tree,then you can see for yourself why i get in a pickle trying to sort out who,s who.I REALLY appreciate all the kind work and time you have put into this,guiding a mere novice through the in,s and out,s of this ancestry business.As i have already said computers are not my forte.Once again a BIG THANKYOU......the pest.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 17 Jun 2009 17:46

Not your lucky day viv.
Even Agnes has got up and left.

Deaths Mar 1908 (>99%)
WHITE Agnes Mary 74 Chelsea 1a 288

So she may as well have hubby back for company then,well I think its him,right age ,right place anyway.

Deaths Dec 1879 (99%)
White Charles 51 St. Geo. East 1c 326

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 17 Jun 2009 17:38

Flipping pest.
Chunter ,chunter,mumble mumble.
Asks for info then beggers off.
Hm,methinks these pests need a tellin off ,leaving me on my own like this.
Off to have a looksee on 1911 and see if Agnes is still alive,maybe she will keep me company!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 17 Jun 2009 10:54

I dont see them in 1841,so maybe they were still in Ireland then.

http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com
One Irish site to search,but I dont see anything for Agnes collins 1834ish in county cork.
And it is pay per view and a tad expensive at 5 euro a time ,so tread carefully.

This site is free ,but a bit hit and miss,mind you Irish records are very hard to find,well the ones you want will be I would think,murphys law and all that!

www.familysearch

viv

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 17 Jun 2009 10:25

Here she is in 1851,mistranscribed as CALLENS,but if you look at the original she is COLLINS,and she is a needlewoman,just as she is in 1881.
Brother Michael is a tailor.


1851 England Census
about Agnes Callens
Name: Agnes Callens
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: St Giles in The Fields
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: St Giles
Sub-registration district: St Giles South
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 234
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Callens 27
Agnes Callens 18

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 17 Jun 2009 10:17

So Pesky......
You want more huh,no prob.
The way I see Agnes white/collins coming up.

1901 England Census
about Agnes White
Name: Agnes White
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland

Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, South

With son John and D.I.L. Esther.

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1891 England Census
about Agnes White
Name: Agnes White
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Cork, Ireland

Civil parish: Chelsea
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North


With son john and some Irish folks who may or may not be relations.

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1881 England Census
about Agnes White
Name: Agnes White
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St George in The East
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 38 Station Place
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Needlewoman

Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Agnes White 47
Thomas White 24
John White 17


Now she says born london,but we know different,with sons thomas and john obviously ,so its her ,
but losing the plot on her birth place.
Probably still upset after the death of hubby charles.

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We already have her with hubby charles on 1871 and 1861 so now for 1851 and 1841 as Agnes collins,IF poss

Robert

Robert Report 16 Jun 2009 17:47

Hello Vivienne,(Guess who).well thankyou for last lot of information.Now you might find this confusing??,i have been searching for a Agnes collins (r.e.1b 606) and have come across these entries on G.R. 1841 census,no:21 church street,John collins head(50),mary wife(40),agnes(10) and what looks like a jane?on the 1851 census there is 1 agnes down in bristol with a sister?,1861census an agnes living at no:4 duke street but she is not on that page also shown as being born in cork ireland.1891census an agnes white living at no:4 hope court but shown as being born in scotland.Then i have an agnes white living at 158 lots road chelsea in the 1901census which ties in with the address i have on g.dads marriage cert:(robert + jane) which as got g.g.dads name(charles)the docker on.I do believe that the trip to kew will be the best thing that i can do.(sorry if this is all gobbledegook) the pest....

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 Jun 2009 10:31

To maybe find Robert Sharps military history I think you would have to go in person to kew{national archives}

If hes listed anywhere it would be in this collection I think.

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Record Summary
Title
Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents
Covering dates 1760-1913
Availability This series is currently undergoing digitisation (from May 2008). Access to certain pieces will be disrupted over the next 3 years and advance ordering of this series may be interrupted during this time. Please check with us that the pieces that you wish to consult are not affected before you travel. For more details please visit the project news at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/stories/212.htm (a live link to this is available in the ScopeContent at WO 97 series level). Available in microform only unless otherwise stated
Note Catalogue descriptions for this series were enhanced as part of a project supported by the Friends of The National Archives and the Army Museums Ogilby Trust. PLEASE NOTE: This series is currently undergoing digitisation (from May 2008). Access to certain pieces will be disrupted over the next 3 years and advance ordering of this series may be interrupted during this time. Please check with us that the pieces that you wish to consult are not affected before you travel. For more details please visit the project news at http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/stories/212.htm (a live link to this is available in the ScopeContent at WO 97 series level)
Held by
The National Archives, Kew