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I'm lost.... Greenhalgh-Jones?

how did we get to this? Is this possibly a first marriage for stanley?

thanks guys

Annie x

Birth?

Births Dec 1912
Jones Emily G Cornwall St.Asaph 11b 528

Rose

Stanley married Emily G Jones.

Rose

Thankyou Rose.......appreciated!

I have looked for a marriage from 1953 - 1971 but couldn't find one for Stanley Edward Greenhalgh............but that is not to say that I didn't somehow miss it!

Brenda

Ann-Marie,

I don't think Yvonne had been married before because Gore is listed as the maiden name and is also Patricia's surname.

I think you need to continue your search for Stanley E Greenhalgh marriages. You need to include years after 1953 in case he obtained a divorce or his first wife died.

Rose

Well done Brenda.

There are a lot of Greenhalgh/Jones births but this one sticks out:


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Penelope Greenhalgh
Name: Penelope Greenhalgh
Mother's Maiden Surname: Jones
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1943
Registration district: St Asaph
Registration county: Wales
Volume Number: 11b
Page Number: 241

Rose

thank you guys-

the death moodyblue is the death cert i have orderded,

births-
I'm. drawn to
GREENHALGH Stanley Tootle mmnChorley.8e 755 3 1915

matches the death you mentioned

I'm going to wait for these to come and go from there i think: did an electoral search today:

1953 An EDWARD and YVONNE Greenhalgh lives in the pub mentioned previously after that they dissapear!!! S no help to me

My theroy:

Yvonne was married previously as Patricia (daughter) was not born a Greenhalgh, thats why we have no records, i think Stanley could have possibly had a previous marraige also from record i'm pulling up

when know any more will update here

thanks again for all your help

annie x

these are the only three that I can find listed around that time.

GREENHALGH Stanley mmn Brown Bolton.8c 726 4 1915


GREENHALGH Stanley Tootle mmnChorley.8e 755 3 1915


GREENHALGH Stanley E mmnBirdwhistle Conway.11b 830 3 1914


Now, it is highly likely that his birth was registered in the 3rd qtr (Jul-Aug-Sept) as his date of birth was at the end of June and.........it is just as possible that the person who registered the death got the year wrong by 1 year.

My best bet is that it is the Stanley E Greenhalgh with mothers maiden name Birdwhistle...........for what it's worth! It would appear to be the only one with a Welsh connection too.

Brenda

DEATH

Stanley Edward Greenhalgh dob 27 June 1915
Poplar
4th qtr 1971
vol 5d page 1343

Brenda

Hi Annie,

there is this marriage for a Stanley E Greenhalgh in Denbighshire

Stanley E Greenhalgh.............Jones
St Asaph
3rd qtr 1937
vol11b page 468


ST. ASAPH REGISTRATION DISTRICT

Registration County : Denbighshire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.4.1974 (succeeded by Rhuddlan district).
Sub-districts : Abergele; Denbigh; Rhyl; St. Asaph.

Brenda

Can we get records from the hospital for employees-

My brother in law just said he remembers Yvonne being a nurse? in bethnal green hospital?

Its a long shot but a possibiltiy....?

I have found no marraige for Stanley at all- Even if Stanley had married previously he wouldn't have changed his name so that would not effect searching presumably...?

As for birth cert- its says Yvonne May Greenhalgh- Formoely GORE

I'm going to go search the elcetoral registers to see if this sheds any light on the situation??

that really is where my knowledge ends....? I have exhausted all avenue to search and drew up blank- I'm going to wait for certs to arrive and see if that helps me any further...?

I am searching for deaths- am starting at 1953 and working my way forward.....

Thanks guys again for your help

Annie x

Hi Annie,

I realise the mmn is given as Gore but does the birth cert say formerly Gore or previously Gore as you have typed.

As a birth cannot be found under the name Gore, maybe she was just calling herself Gore.

Have you searched for a death for Stanley Edward?

Christine

Have you found any marriages for a Stanley Greenhalgh? I wonder if he were married before and that's why you can't find his marriage to Yvonne. He would have been 39 by the time Michael was born. Hard to imagine he'd managed to stay a bachelor all those years.

Rose

I know- i was just searcing all site for a record of him, also a few vairants on his DOB came up (as edward) i have searched 1911 census for him (he could have just been born- there were a few age 0) but nothing seemed to match.

I was just asking if anybody knew where i could try.

thanks alot

Annie x

Annie I'm getting confused. Who are you looking for in *all* the census'? You won't find Stanley Edward unless he was born pre 1911.
Julie

just in case it is not him- i found a few s greenhalghs around that time- and I dont know for sure that is him so just keeping an open mind on it all-

i have realised through my thread i should look over all evidence and not dismiss it.

but i am using the one you found originally as my census searches- to see if this links up.

Thank you very much Moodyblue!

your intuition was great and led me down the right track!!!

Annie x

Annie, why are you estimating Stanley Edwards birth when you have the birth reference?

BIRTHS
Sep 1914
GREENHALGH Stanley E...mmn Birdwhistle... Conway 11b 830

Brenda

I have just re-searched again- all marriage records from 1948 (as i have established that they were not married when patricia was born as she was born a GORE,

Did this used to happen alot? people pretending to be married? anybody else got any clues where i should try next??

thank you

Annie
x

Went to Registry office today- got Michaels certificate....

Info-

Father STANLEY EDWARD GREENHALGH -moodyblue you were indeed correct!!

mother Yvonne May Greenhalgh (previously GORE) So I think the Yvonne who died in 1975 was her, have requested a copy of death certifiacte-

Fathers proffesion Potman (Public house) of 12 Kerbela Street, bethnal green.

also abve is place of residence.

Have tried a marraige search for these two but drew up zero....

I'm estimating that Stanley was born between 1910-1920's?

Thank you to every body who has helped me on this one!

The Kidness shown by everybody is amazing, Thank you once again

Annie x