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possible for stans parents?
Its the only Juliana Greenhalgh listed...
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Address 18 Whitby Rd
Civil Parish South Manchester
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish Ladybarn St Chad
Parliamentary Borough or Division South Division Manchester
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Manchester
Administrative County Manchester
Householder 1
Name George J Greenhalgh
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 26
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Ship Camal Co Blank
Employment Status
Where Born Cheshire Northwich
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Juliana Greenhalgh
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Lancs Haughton
Language
Infirmity
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Rose I did ask her and she said she knew nothing- I actually asked her 6 times about this? asked her about any of her mums, mums bro's/sis' but she could not recall any aunts/uncles nothing...... sorry :(

Annie x

Did you ask her who Yvonne's parents were? That would really be useful.

Rose

There are only 7 Daphnes born with MMN Gore. Nothing in Gloucestershire and nothing after 1943.

Rose

I wonder.................

Birth

Letitia QUEENIE Gore
Winchcomb
3rd qtr 1909
vol 6a page 586


WINCHCOMB REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Gloucestershire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.4.1937 (succeeded by Cheltenham and North Cotswold districts)


Brenda

I did- as i explained to her NO record of her mothers birth or marriage could be found- she still stands by the place cheltenham

It can be a nick name for a dad to use for a daughter too.
Just like princess or daddys little angel.

But queenie I always think of as a predominantley london name.
Silly I know.

So did you ask where yvonne was born?

I thought queenie was another name for beatrice? not sure if I'm right....

two births for a queenie gore
Queenie is a name in its own right by the way.

Births Mar 1906 (>99%)
Gore Queenie Alexandra W Luton 3b 394

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Gore Queenie E Bath Islington 1b 424

Did you ask or do we have any idea where yvonne was supposedly born???

Daphne,it is spelt
Daphne.

ok hi guys-

I have just phone Pat again- and really puzzled her!! I had to ask her the same question worded diff to get an answer!!

Ok so a few facts (according to pat)

Birdwhistle is the right one as she remembers a nanny julie,

Yvonne had 2 brothers- Ronnie/Ron/ronald and George

George died before Yvonne did

Ron could possibly be alive

She also had a sister who she knew as Queenie (I dont think this is her real name though)

Queenie got married to unknown by pat and had a daughter called DAPHNY (i think its how you spell it- its pronounced "Daff-ney")
Quennie's husband died when pat was little.

They all lived/live in cheltenham/ glouster area (once again i am sorry for my poor spelling)

I am presuming that Daphny was born around the time of pat??

going to do a bmd search and i'm going to look back over this thread as there were a few people who mentioned ron and george GORE's

Patricia seemed very cagy and closed and i think there is something hidden there- as when i said i'm still looking she said "oh no why you still looking"

I asked if Stan was married previously and she said yes it could have been.

i asked why she was born in paddington- she said that her mum moved there a little while before she was born- I THINK possibly that pat was an affair?? and Stan followed? Just a theroy as there is no record of any marriage so maybe they just wanted a fresh start...?

With regards to stan being born in wales she said it was something to do with work (i had to ask her this question re-worded 5 times before she gave up that he was born there because of work!)

I also asked what religion her mum and dad were (as i thought possibly if they had a weird religion that wasnt recognised by the land that could could explain it?) but apparently they were brought up CofE

That was the best I could squeeze from her it took nearly an hour to do that!

She is very closed on the subject and you really have to dig? so who knows but at least she gave us a little more info

Thanks

Annie x

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Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
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Christian Yvonne M Betteridge Westbury S 6a 367
Smith Yvonne E Kingscote Cheltenham 6a 574

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Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
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Meadows Yvonne D Bayliss Tewkesbury 6a 662


these are for the gloucester area
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Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Audet Yvonne M C Cusack Ripon 9a 96
Fidgeon Yvonne M Durham Brentford 3a 258
Horne Yvonne M I Adams Belper 7b 1134
Kennard Yvonne M Snowing Amersham 3a 1329
Larrazabal Yvonne M C Jauhers Barnet 3a 664
Moinet Yvonne M Railton Scarbro' 9d 601
Potten Yvonne M Potten Brentford 3a 184
Tyler Yvonne M Newman Swindon 5a 22
Ward Yvonne M Hunt Richmond S. 2a 815


all the ones for the third quarter 1919...

Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
Auberson Yvonne M G Bennington Lambeth 1d 518
Brewer Yvonne M Parker Edmonton 3a 633
Caldecot Yvonne M E Richards Tonbridge 2a 1128
Christian Yvonne M Betteridge Westbury S 6a 367
Coulette Yvonne M Whiting Fulham 1a 391
Duprey Yvonne M Watson Wandsworth 1d 730
Eccell Yvonne M Maynard Tonbridge 2a 1155
Gardner Yvonne M Boulter Banbury 3a 1485
Hayles Yvonne M Sampson Chertsey 2a 68
Ivory Yvonne M Trevett Lewisham 1d 1440
Longman Yvonne M Longman Wandsworth 1d 777
O'Neill Yvonne M Cayzer Brighton 2b 258
Richardson Yvonne M Wass Lincoln 7a 648
Watts Yvonne M Probert Dartford 2a 858


these are all the yvonne m's born in third quart 1919....

Hi all- ok so certs arrived today......

FACT:
Patricia Ann GORE
DOB: 20-03-1948
POB: Paddington Hospital
Father: (HAS A LINE THROUGH)
Name of Mother: Yvonne May GORE
of 12 clarendon Mews
Paddington W2


DEATH CERT FACT:
Yvonne May GREENHALGH Maiden name GORE

DOD: 28-07-1975

DOB: 23-06-1919
Cheltenham

Informant: Patricia Ann Ishmael-
Qualification: Daughter
usual address 8 Connett House Bethnal Green E2
END OF FACT:

So it hasn't really helped us has it?? We had found this info out all ready....

I'm starting to think maybe I'll never know.....?

Thanks guys again for all your help and support

Annie xXx

I think 1911 for Wales is not yet online but should be soon

Tania did wales not have a 1911 census?

Yvonne Gore looks like she does not exist!! ;D

no body can find any record of her other than death.....? strange eh?

Thanks Tania!!

Annie x

dont think these guys are on the 1911 census, already in wales?

Since all the other records appear to relate to Lancashire perhaps they were on holiday in Colwyn Bay when Stanley was born!

That Yvonne Gore looks interesting.......

1891 England Census
about Juliana Birdwhistle
Name: Juliana Birdwhistle
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John T
Gender: Female
Where born: Haughton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Withington
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Innocents
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Chorlton
Sub-registration district: Didsbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John T Birdwhistle 60
Hannah Birdwhistle 54
Mary E Birdwhistle 21
Juliana Birdwhistle 18
Emily Birdwhistle 55