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FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 May 2009 19:11

Fraid so rose,by Me,me, me,
Couple of pages back though

viv

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 30 May 2009 18:47

Was this posted previously?

GORE ANNIE F 1904 7 Winchcomb Gloucestershire
GORE ARCHIBALD M 1898 13 Winchcomb Gloucestershire
GORE BEATRICE F 1900 11 Winchcomb Gloucestershire
GORE DORIS F 1902 9 Winchcomb Gloucestershire
GORE LAUNCELOT M 1896 15 Winchcomb Gloucestershire
GORE MARGARET F 1874 37 Winchcomb Gloucestershire
GORE NELLIE F 1907 4 Winchcomb Gloucestershire
GORE JUNR JOHN M 1872 39 Winchcomb Gloucestershire
GORE QUENNIE F 1909 2 Winchcomb Gloucestershire

Rose

Tania

Tania Report 30 May 2009 18:31

1901 England Census
about Maria Gore
Name: Maria Gore
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Arthur I
Gender: Female
Where born: Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Winchcombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Gretton Christchurch and Winchcombe St Peter
Town: Gretton
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Winchcombe
Sub-registration district: Guiting
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 93
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur I Gore 28 [general la
Maria Gore 27
Charles I L Gore 4
Archibald R Gore 3
Beatrice I Gore 1

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 May 2009 12:09

Gray crossed out could mean that the reg misheard the name May?

Just as on mine I have the name "James" crossed out and Jane underneath

LOL ,my father has a lot to answer for in giving me, a GIRL , a MALE spelling!!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 May 2009 12:04

And one other thing that does it for me

She used the SECOND name of Evon/Yvonne just as all the others did.

My name is not really spelt Vivienne,its Vivian,but being a female with a male spelling was a pain in wales as Vivian is a boys name here,so I changed the spelling when I was 12....

And Evon does sound very much like Evan..

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 30 May 2009 11:57

I have also ordered Sanleys first marriage cert, and Penelope's birth cert to see where that leads me!!

I agree Viv- Yvonne did exist just called Elvina Evone may gore
Thanks
Annie x

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 30 May 2009 11:44

Elvina Evon May Gore does it for me.

Suggestion..........
Pat may have her memory "helped" by the names of the parents on the cert???

My friends mother celebrated her birthday on 4th sept every year,upon getting her birth cert to get her pension then found out she was actually born on 4th of APRIL.
But still has to celebrate her birthday in sept(now in her 80s}as thats what she has always done!
So she has an official birthday in April too.
viv

Edit ,,Evon,,Yvonne,,Back then Yvonne was a very MODERN name and maybe no one knew how to spell it,being more of a French name too.

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 30 May 2009 10:11

Drumroll please............................. IT IS HERE!!!!! :)

Ok, So one of the three have arrived and its the one we are all interested in!!! :)

FACT:
17-07-1917

ELVINA EVON (then has gray but crossed out) MAY GORE

born- the park, toddington

Female

Father Arthur John GORE

Mother Maria Gore Formerly KNIGHT

Occupation of father- general labourer

informant- M Gore- Mother- the park toddington

END OF FACT

***********************************************

So eh? Evon?? lol!! I am drawn to this because quite Right as Brenda put it, it ticks all the boxes on info regarding place and siblings. BUT DOB is all out, i know people change YOB but why the whole lot?

just did a FBDM search for elvina & Evon and zero :(

Thank you guys

will post info on monday hopefully from other certs....

thanks

Annie x


Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 24 May 2009 22:24

Hi guys-

Sorry nothing new to report as yet :(

My certs have got lost in post according to website, so sadly i am STILL awaiting for them to arrive... sob sob :'(

As soon as they r here I will let you all know

Annie x

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 21 May 2009 18:04

Ouch!!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 May 2009 17:56

Thought you would so I decided it was payback time
LOL:)

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 21 May 2009 17:52

Sorry...sorry......sorry!!! Just eager for news - I'll try to be good!

But you got me too - I thought there was something new when it was you that posted..

Brenda

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 21 May 2009 17:09

Will you stop checking for news moody.
Every time I see this pop up to the top of my threads I get excited and then I get all despondant when its not Annie reporting her post deliveries.
viv

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 21 May 2009 16:38

Just checking for news!

Brenda

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 16 May 2009 21:13

ok i have ordered both certs mentioned.... so will update as and when they arrive.

Guys I just want to say a HUGE THANK YOU for all of your time and effort on this one! i had no idea where to start digging on this one :)

Annie x

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 May 2009 20:19

Cor Brenda
Wish I could sum up and put the case to the magistrate as well as you.
viv
LOL x

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 15 May 2009 20:10

Other leads to follow:

Wait until the 1911 census is available for Wales and see if Stanley had any siblings.

Stanley's first marriage cert. Might be a sibling as a witness.

Rose

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 15 May 2009 19:20

What have you got to lose by ordering her certificate.?

If her date of birth is the same date, same month but 2 years earlier than on the death certificate then there is every possibility that it is her.

Other info to take into consideration re Elvina:

(1) She had a sister known as Queenie (as Patricia has told you)
(2) She had a brother Frederick GEORGE Gore who died not many years before she did ( just as Patricia said)
(3) She was born in the Cheltenham district
(4) None of the family appeared to be known by their first names so it is possible that she wanted to be known as Yvonne.
(5) She had a sister Daphne that maybe Queenie named her daughter after?
(6) There are a couple of Ronald Gores born in Winchcomb, Cheltenham with mmn Gore that could possibly be the son of one of her older sisters so therefore not a brother but a nephew perhaps.


If it were me. I would take a chance on the certificate just as you did on Stans.

Brenda

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 15 May 2009 19:13

By seeing if the date of birth matches her death one,just the date and month will be enough ,the same as stanleys.
viv

Ann-Marie

Ann-Marie Report 15 May 2009 17:49

Hi guys i have searched and searched and drew up zero...... sob sob :'( So i have no idea what to do now? Do i order elvinas cert? how can i confirm it is her?

Thanks

Annie x