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Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 22:41

i couldnt even tell you how i got onto it lol ilooked for the census of george moate cant even remember which one and it came up saying somebody had the tree on ancestry so i went onto it and i have just been amazed it goes right back to thomas moate in 1470 how good is that and that the moates had a farm in auckley near doncaster.

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 22:41

i couldnt even tell you how i got onto it lol ilooked for the census of george moate cant even remember which one and it came up saying somebody had the tree on ancestry so i went onto it and i have just been amazed it goes right back to thomas moate in 1470 how good is that and that the moates had a farm in auckley near doncaster.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 22:35

Can you figure out what relation the tree owner is to that Moate family?

That's always my problem - I have no clue how to get from the person in 1820 to the person born 30-40 years ago. They may be so distantly related to my person by 16 marriages that we may as well be different species, for all I can tell.

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 22:29

wow this just gets better i am still looking through this other persons tree to see wht i can find it gives all siblings and dates of birth and death and even a photo of the church they are buried

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 22:20

You saw who Ann was working for in 1851?

Google "George M Stansfield" --

http://www.bristolinformation.co.uk/srch/srchit.asp?gdoc=ls&first=1800&howmany=
200&data=&field=&match=and&dir=Next+200&mde=list&category=all

"George M Stansfield
In 1865 was a surgeon of 8 Burlington Buildings, Redland. In this year he exhibited a pontoon cooking range and carriage for service in the field in the Useful and Ornamental class of the Bristol Industrial Exhibition . He claimed that the carriage in addition to conveying the pontoon kettles, frame for fireplace etc would also serve the purpose of a light wagon, an ambulance (with springs fitted) and a field hospital or operation table and a canvas cover was supplied for this purpose. He was awarded Certificate of Honourable Mention.
Categories: [Arts & Crafts]"

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 22:15

this is great wheni clicked onto where i got the name from someone on ancestry also has info and he was buried in campsall this just gets better i dont think he ever married cos at one point in 1871 i think it is he lived with his sister

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 22:15

this is great wheni clicked onto where i got the name from someone on ancestry also has info and he was buried in campsall this just gets better i dont think he ever married cos at one point in 1871 i think it is he lived with his sister

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 22:12

Ah, I wondered - was going to have a look in the IGI for George Sr's parent's marriage, hadn't got around to it.

Yes, that was making a point all right. ;)

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 22:04

oh bless her
i have just found why my george had that funny name maybe you already found it but it certainly explains where his name comes from
right my george maple moate father was called george moates
his parents were called get this thomas moate and eliza maples so there is the answer as you said they certainly wanted to make a point about the name.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 21:52

Well it was pretty easy -- although I haven't got her in 41, so I shouldn't mock.


1851

Name: Ann Riley
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Servant
Where born: Skellow, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Halifax
Town: Halifax
County/Island: Yorkshire

George M Stansfield 35
Harriett Stansfield 30
Mary A Stansfield 4
Harriett Stansfield 1
Ann Riley 26
Mary A Appleton 18
William Ashworth 22


Take a look at the image, she'd certainly moved off the farm there. Maybe she was hoping to marry a rich doctor. ;)

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 21:47

no i cant seem to find her. where i she help

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 21:43

Have you found her in 1851? I can point you if you like.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 21:41

Yes, that is odd.


1851

William Riley 58 - farm labourer
Sarah Riley 52
Mary A Riley 13
Jane Riley 10
George M M Riley 7

- they were making a point of that name, eh? It must have been worth something!

1841

William Riley 44
Sarah Riley 41
Martin Riley 10
Elizabeth Riley 16
Sarah Riley 9
Mary Ann Riley 7
Jane Riley 2


So ... where *is* Ann??

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 21:35

I have just had a look at ancestry wow
I wonder whos child Maria Moate was seems there might have been a few children born out of wedlock.
Need to find where anne was in the years between george being born and 1861

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 21:34

Just before you go: cousins.

Search trees for Moate born in Fenwick.

Somebody has a George 1824, hm, but there are a lot of GR members with people who could be George's siblings, e.g. Mary 1821.

I'm jealous ...

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 21:27

Am just happy you have found his father and relatives thats a gold mine to me but yeah would have been nice knowing which farm and where its a great feeling when you finally have answers and can piece things together
thanks again

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 21:25

Do you have Ancestry? Take a look at the image. If you don't, send me your email address and I'll email a copy.

The household in 1861 was:

Thomas Moate 83
George Moate 43
Mary Ann Moate 40
Caroline Moate 39
Henry Moate 34
-- all unmarried children
Maria Moate 13 - granddaughter - ?
Jane Pickels 20 - dairymaid
Francis Senior 25 - carter
George Rimington 13 - carter

(those are not counting the 2 labourers, who lived elsewhere)

I'd say it was a dairy farm?

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 21:23

Well, I think 270 acres made you a cut above. ;)

Back about then, my grx2 grmother on another side was picking crops, I think. Mind you, one of my grx2 grfathers appearently owned a mine. If you can figure out who *his* father was, I'll trade you part of the mine for part of the farm. Because his name was on the birth certificate ... but I think maybe it shouldn't have been ...

I was going to say good luck figuring out where the mine is/was, but I may know in fact, so I think I'll shut up now and just take my few acres. Actually, I'd be happy with one. Or a half. Time-share?

Michelle

Michelle Report 29 Apr 2009 21:16

FANTASTIC Thanks all of you how amazing you all are i have been looking for ages obviously wrong places
Yes his mother was a servant and thats why i wondered about his name exactly why would you name your child that name lol.
Now all we need to do is find out which farm and ill share my inheritance with you all. I take it if you owned a farm in those days and had servants you were rich then.

EvieBeavie

EvieBeavie Report 29 Apr 2009 21:05

Oh - he was rich.

In 1861, his father was a farmer of 270 acres employing 2 labourers.

The farm doesn't have a name, so I can't tell you where to go to claim your inheritance.

Was your George's mother an Ag Lab or a domestic servant by any chance? Like my gr-grmother's situation probably was, it may not have been a love match. But she may have named him like that to cement his claim to some support.