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ATKINSON, WILLIAM F HEAD MARRIED M 27 MINER HEWER HEWER DURHAM HARTLEPOOL
ATKINSON, GERTRUDE WIFE MARRIED 3 F 28 NORFOLK GREAT YARMOUTH
ATKINSON, CHARLES S SON SINGLE M 2 DURHAM DARLINGTON


Address 11 DUNSTAN ST TRIMDON COLLY County Durham
District Sedgefield Subdistrict Sedgefield
Enumeration District 11 Parish Trimdon

Well I am sorry Sean but I cant find any conections there at all.
You will have to get on to your mother to ry and remember more about this lucy.
And did you ever look at the image on the 1911 census for charles atkinson with mother gertrude?
Maybe it will tell you if they had more children on there and if they died.

also found a florance g nelson 1884 in 1891 cences huddersfield

viv
there all in norwich lakenham
charles mace 1861 sometimes hes edward in cences then in others hes charles living on the same street got theres loads of nelsons ive picked one out so you can find them
florance nelson 1887
theres so many of each family i cant work out who lives with who

oh and i found a gertrude nelson living on the coast i think 1881 cences maybe living with grandparents im not sure

ive got myself in a right tangle theres got to be somthing in this

Sean
Norfolk is a big place
Which parish?
I cant see queens road at all.
Name, year,where born of one of maces at queens road that you are looking at please.

viv evie
ive found something PLEASE LADYS would you double check it for me
i told you the nelson thing always bothered me well ive found in 1881 cences norfolk living on queens road the maces and the nelsons all with in a few houses of each other or there abouts

seanxxxxxx

Prob not on the right track but as I cant sleep.............

1901 England Census about Edward Mace
Name: Edward Mace
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Belton, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Bradwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradwell St Nicholas
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England

Name Age
Edward Mace 54.......? labourer
Maria Mace 49
Edward G Mace 25.........fisherman
Jane A Mace 14
Ada E Mace 10

Misty x

Deaths Mar 1926 (88%)
Mace Edward 80 Yarmouth 4b _0

OH FLIP.....Just looked further back on here( should concentrate more) and see Gertrude's father was dead in 1907.

??????

1901 England Census about Gertrude S Mace
Name: Gertrude S Mace
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Belton, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Great Yarmouth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Great Yarmouth
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Name Age
Henry Futter 58
Elizabeth Futter 63
Arthur H Turner 18
Gertrude S Mace 22

Misty x

NAME:
Gertrude Selina Mace
BIRTH:
Mar 1878 - Mutford, Norfolk, Suffolk

A Poss.....????

1870
MACE Edward Mutford 4a 1097
Read Maria Mutford 4a 1097


1881 England Census about Gertrude C. Mace

Name: Gertrude C. Mace
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Maria
Gender: Female
Where born: Belton, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Bradwell
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: 2 Church Rd
Registration district: Mutford
Name Age
Maria Mace 29.............................Fishermans Wife
Elizabeth Mace 10
Edward G. Mace 5
Gertrude C. Mace 3
Bertie W. Mace


Mistyx

could this be gertrudes father
1871 cences
charles mace 1862
whitechapel

1891 cences
charles e mace
london

1901 cences
edward c mace
prettlewell

all 1962

Brought forward for Evie

well its here

hope im forgiven

married-21st sept 1907
frank atkinson-24yrs -bachelor-coal miner-
11 edward street spennymoor
father -john atkinson-deceased-coal miner


gertrude mace -25yrs-spinster
12 edward street spennymoor
father-edward mace -deceased-fisherman


in the presence of

arther william sloddant
mary ann atkinson

wasnt mary one of johns daughters

i mean page 16 not 17
sean

evie
ive got the marriage cert and posted what details were on it i think page 17
all the info i have posted on gertrude and frank
sean

Sean.

HAVE YOU ORDERED THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE

for GERTRUDE MACE and FRANK ATKINSON

Marriages Sep 1907
ATKINSON Frank Auckland 10a 477
MACE Gertrude Auckland 10a 477


? IF NOT, WHY NOT???

We have no hope in a hot place of figuring out who Gertrude was without that -- on the assumption that it will give her age and name her father.

oh viv
so do i really want to find here thats why i asked for your help in the first place

it would be so nice to find here line as all my mothers side are gone and she may have living rel from lou

it only started off as a quick surch i had 2 weeks off work and its took over
im determind to get to the bottom

please dont give up im planning on winning uro millians tonight so money no object

she did tell me another story
when she was little she used to ask him what his name was he said its

charles edward nelson john fitzgerald


wow dosnt that confuse things although our charles was a joker but what if it some may be true


please viv dont get the rope out again

can you tell me in english the facts the things we know are true and what will be the best way forward other than call it a day


PLEASE DONT SAY CALL IT A DAY

LOOK AT ME USING CAPS
getting good at this sean

I do wish your mother could remember more about lucy lou Sean.
Who she is,
older or younger than charles
and where born would be a good start

archiebold
my mother is convinced she recalls an archibold

can you recall page one very long time ago now

anyway cant find one in atkinsons but can find one in mace in 1891
archibold j mace then cant find him in 1901

could this have been gertrudes brother

prob nothing

You can just google Evie,thats what google is for isnt it?

And this is it I think

http://genforum.genealogy.com/mace/messages/2009.html

Not ours I think.
But I have been proved wrong before of course.

I also seem to have missed:

Marriages Sep 1904
Mace Gertrude Lily Norwich 4b 335


The Gertrude Lilly I have been looking at as being 'our' Gertrude.

One wonders whether Gertrude was the one with the past.

The two grooms on the page are Ladbrooke and Leaman. There are no births after 1911 with either surname combination.

And there is no matching Gertrude Ladbrooke or Gertrude Leaman in the 1911, or death for either name 1904-1911.

On, no, crap. This will be her in 1911:

LADBROOKE LILLIE 1873 38 Eton Buckinghamshire

... but no, she's 10 years too old, and there are kids born starting in 1896 ... aargh. Aha, there they are in 1901 ... except the husband is Robert, aargh. Anyhow, the rest of the family is right, so the 1911 Lillie is *not* Gertrude Lillie Mace who married in 1904, who remains unaccounted for.

Other than if she's our Gertrude.

A Gertrude *Mace*? Where?

Can you give us the URL for the site where this is, Sean? I can't just google 'gertrude' and find whatever it is!

edit - Okay, I found it. I googled

"gertrude mace" daughter Evelyn 1904

http://genforum.genealogy.com/mace/messages/2009.html

"gertrude mace 1884 gloucestershire england
looking for any information as to what happen to Gertrude after 1904 when she gave birth to a daughter Evelyn"

She's this one:

Births Sep 1884
Mace Gertrude Shipston 6d 651

Births Dec 1904
MACE Evelyn Vera Shipston 6d 705

There's no Evelyn Mace living with a Gertrude in 1911 ...