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viv evie
ive found something PLEASE LADYS would you double check it for me
i told you the nelson thing always bothered me well ive found in 1881 cences norfolk living on queens road the maces and the nelsons all with in a few houses of each other or there abouts

seanxxxxxx

Sean
Norfolk is a big place
Which parish?
I cant see queens road at all.
Name, year,where born of one of maces at queens road that you are looking at please.

viv
there all in norwich lakenham
charles mace 1861 sometimes hes edward in cences then in others hes charles living on the same street got theres loads of nelsons ive picked one out so you can find them
florance nelson 1887
theres so many of each family i cant work out who lives with who

oh and i found a gertrude nelson living on the coast i think 1881 cences maybe living with grandparents im not sure

ive got myself in a right tangle theres got to be somthing in this

also found a florance g nelson 1884 in 1891 cences huddersfield

Well I am sorry Sean but I cant find any conections there at all.
You will have to get on to your mother to ry and remember more about this lucy.
And did you ever look at the image on the 1911 census for charles atkinson with mother gertrude?
Maybe it will tell you if they had more children on there and if they died.

This one

ATKINSON, WILLIAM F HEAD MARRIED M 27 MINER HEWER HEWER DURHAM HARTLEPOOL
ATKINSON, GERTRUDE WIFE MARRIED 3 F 28 NORFOLK GREAT YARMOUTH
ATKINSON, CHARLES S SON SINGLE M 2 DURHAM DARLINGTON


Address 11 DUNSTAN ST TRIMDON COLLY County Durham
District Sedgefield Subdistrict Sedgefield
Enumeration District 11 Parish Trimdon

Evie's gone, you'll have to make do with me.

I think Mistycat may be on to something.

Gertrude admitted to being a year older than her groom when she married. It's not at all unimaginable that she was really older than that, and just not letting on.

(My gr-grf's sister did that when she married in 1875. Said she was 19, just like her groom. That's how I missed finding her birth in the untranscribed images -- looked all the way back to first quarter 1855, which would have made her 20 in July 1875 when she married. Turns out she was born last quarter 1874 [strike it, strike it: 1854], making her closer to 21 than 19.)

I think Mistycat could definitely be onto something.

But if that's her in 1901, she made a shift to Durham at some point. But then, the 1911 census does give her birthplace as Norfolk, so our Gertrude did make that shift.

As for the father being reported deceased on the marriage certificate but apparently dying much later ... I might not put too much stock in the marriage cert.


But ... actually, I think Mistycat just lighted on the wrong death!

Deaths Sep 1902
Mace Edward 55 Yarmouth 4b 22


The 1901 census has him aged 54 in Yarmouth. So that death is actually a perfect match!

Hello Janey
Welcome to the fray.

Hmmm,HOW??

(My gr-grf's sister did that when she
married in 1875.??
Said she was 19, just like her groom. That's how I missed finding her birth in the untranscribed images -- looked all the way back to first quarter 1855, which would have made her 20 in July 1875 when she married. Turns out
she was born last quarter 1874, ??
making her closer to 21 than 19.)
viv

Hi All

....could she have moved to Durham with/ to / because of, the Futter's

1901 England Census about Elizabeth A Futter
Name: Elizabeth A Futter
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Aunt
Gender: Female
Where born: Blakeney, Norfolk, England...................****
Civil Parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: South Westoe St Michael and All Angels
County/Island: Durham

Name Age
Hugh L F Barnfather 22
Margaret Barnfather 21
Elizabeth A Futter 68...........********

Misty x

Sean..I'm not suggesting the Futter's are part of your lot....j

Who the F**r are the futters?

Sorry Viv

Gertrude was with a family of Futter's....in 1901.

There are Futter's in Durham, born in Norfolk/ Suffolk..so did wonder if that's how she made the move!!



Misty x

Not stupid
Good sideways thinking on what she was doing so far from home more like.
And well done on the Gertrude mace and father Edward job.
And thanks to Janey for sorting out the death of edward so it looks like you def have the correct family for her.

I shall fix it immediately, oh Viv. 1854, not 1874.

By jove, I think Mistycat's dunnit.

What took you so long????

Viv...I think we have All done a jolly good " job " on this family...I cant help looking in every time I'm on here and have enjoyed doing it, along side you all (wish I could say the same about my flipping lot!!) I love a good "hunt" and of course, it all help's my (still much to learn) "find them" skill's.

Do hope Sean is able to sort it all out....No word on Lucy/ Lou as yet ??

Misty x

Tee Hee...Janey !! ;)

Oh God Misty,dont start him off about lucy lou again.
Its been quiet for so long that I think Sean may have emmigtated.

I do wish we had been able to find her ,but some things in life have to remain a mystery it would seem.

Sorry I deleted...cause I posted wrong info...

Been out for supper, far to much "booze" ..I think!!

Misty x

Tut Tut Misty,
I would never do a thing like that.
And as my nan used to tell me,you will end up with pimples on your tongue my girl,telling pork pies!

Viv...my mum used to say that too....I dont do it often and as other half is on call tonight and he has had to go, I'm back on here( how sad)

Ok, what I really ment to say( yet another thought, all be it a skwiffy one).....Sorry about this Viv ;)

Sean, if your still "with" us...could Lucy/ Lou have been sister to Winnie, who, was very close to both...so Charles " called " her his sister?

What was Winnies name before she married Charles? We may have this info but without reading the whole thread, I cant remember at the mo!!

Misty x

Somebody come up with Winifred's surname so we don't have to dive back into it ... but I think the idea was that Charles knew his LucyLou while growing up ...


Just for giggles -- who is this?


Marriages Mar 1904
Corlett Ann Jane Gateshead 10a 1131
>> Mace Lucy Gateshead 10a 1131
Nicholson Joseph Gateshead 10a 1131
Scott James Gateshead 10a 1131

... or has it all been done before ...

... yes, it has; this oddment in 1901 in Blaydon, Winlaton, Durham:

Joseph Blake 45
Martha Blake 43
Phoebe Mace 81
Edward Mace 49 - brother-in-law born Hampshire
Lucy Mace 19 - niece born Blaydon
William Gramshaw 28
George Atkinson 44
John O Atkinson 18
Frederick O Atkinson 16
Ada Atkinson 11


Ignore me.

Janey...I'm up for giggles tonight, might be the booze though..Oh my goodness....???

Misty x

Edit...well done you...I also get the feeling she was known, whilst growing up....but one never know's!!!