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i do have a marriage cert august 1912 he was a green grosser , father thomas king (dec)of walter king to ester waller who's father was william waller (dec) he was a coal porter. she died when she was in her early 20's about 1918 ish 1d 171 in camberwell

possible

Births Mar 1863
FRIBBINS Henry Shoreditch 1c 99


... unless we've had that one already ...

Kelly.

You have her birth surname. It is on the children's birth certificates that you have. Waller.

You can't find a marriage because there apparently wasn't one. Barring bizarre mistranscriptions.

The Henry Trippance - Esther Moulder marriage I found is one possibility.

But I can't find an Esther Waller - Moulder marriage that would explain how this could be your Henry's marriage (i.e. if Esther was born Waller, married first to Moulder, then married Henry as Moulder).

For one reason or another, Henry and Esther do not appear to have married.

I have Given you Georges birth details ? and his brother and sister they are all spelt differently.

If the Hester Waller in 1861 is your person, your bad luck is that in 1851 she is not with her parents.


Name: Hester Waller
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: S Walden, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Saffron Walden

Sarah Mynott 62
George Mynott 14
Amelia L Clark 15 - lodger
Hester Waller 8


So her birth certificate is needed to go back farther.

sorry again i am looking for the maiden name of heather /esther so i can get a gro number to get there wedding cert, i have looked for george aged 1 i have looked 1 year each side of 1880 but cannot find his birth, so i could get his cert which would give me her maiden name

Births Jun 1842
WALLER Hester Saffron Walden 12 251

(Saffron Walden district includes Debden)


Place of birth doesn't match wtih 1901 census, which is Southall, Middlesex, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

1861


Name: Hester Waller
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Debden, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Bloomsbury St George
County/Island: Middlesex

Well, since you were looking for the birth surname of "Heather", and since "Heather" is Esther ... that would indicate that you know the birth surname.

Problem is, still no marriage ...

Marriages Jun 1865
Carter Frances Mary Uxbridge 3a 39
Chapman Charles Uxbridge 3a 39
> Moulder Esther Uxbridge 3a 39
> Tribbance Henry Charles Uxbridge 3a 39

i have the birth cert for thomas henry waller, mothers maiden name esther elizabeth waller , then i have esther's birth cert parents elizabeth waller formaly fribbens esther was reg at 4 adelaids place peckham if this helps

Name: Emma Fribbance
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 678 (click to

I can find the births for Emma onwards. Can't see the others and can't see them in 1891 at the mo.

Rose

Here's the 1871 Henry, in 1861:

Name: Henry Flippen
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Milton, Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Milton


So the two do have independent existence.

>>>>>>>>>Name: George Francis Fribins
Year of Registration: 1880
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 868 (click to see others on page)

But whatever, I'm confused.

"AND THANK YOU ABOUT ESTHER, BUT I HAVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT HER, UBT THANK YOU"

Kelly, if you are still thinking that "Heather" and Esther are two different people -- you say you're looking for Heather's birth surname, but you know about Esther -- you're confused still.

They are the same person. What is it that you know about Esther?

no i am not yet, am really upset that i have caused any problems, as i did not mean to
kelly

I had had a post composed that didn't post, so I'll just summarize.

1851 and 1861 -- Henry, parents Charles and Ann, born in Burbage; not in the 1871. (This one is in the IGI)

1871 -- Henry, parents George and Sarah, not in the 1851/1861. (And not in the IGI)

Buh bye.

Kelly you are not going to bed yet !