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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Aug 2011 21:11

Not sure about that Renes but Evelyn has sent me her mother's ration book number. Anyone any ideas of what to do twith it though?


A helpful member has spotted the following:

A member of the Goddard-Fenwick family left England for Singapore in 1960. Their address was 44 Dafforne Road so, it looks as though the house stayed in the family.


Also found......A George Digby Crofton Goddard-Fenwick was married
in Chelsea to Helen Maud(e) Knight, she died 1936 Sussex . She is on the 1911 together with Evelyn Goddard Fenwick, another Teacher! (this census is in the Thread)


George D C is on 1901 in Norwich a Teacher, at Mount Roland Preparatory School, East Preston, Sussex.

Cannot find him 1911...

Nothing in the Times coming up for 44 Dafforne Road, wondered if there might be a Sale notice or something. If a Goddard -Fenwick is still there in 1960, I wonder if George D C Goddard Fenwick owned it?...




Thank you very much for that info......all ideas/suggestions welcome.
Cx





Renes

Renes Report 10 Aug 2011 17:12


Dont suppose this would help as Diane probably used same info for ration book as marriage

http://www.ic.nhs.uk/services/1939-register-service

This enumeration occurred on the 29 September 1939 and a National Registration number was assigned to each person after the following data was collected from each household:

* Names.
* Sex.
* Date of birth.
* Occupation, profession, trade or employment.
* Residence.
* Condition as to marriage.
* Membership of Naval, Military or Air Force Reserves or Auxiliary Forces or of Civil Defence Services or Reserves, if recorded.

Renes

Renes Report 10 Aug 2011 15:13

Am on it as you speak ----need post code ..Googling NOW


have emailed Land Registry ---44 Dafforne Road SW17 8TZ



EDIT ---response recd

Thank you for your email dated 10 August 2011.
Our records for this property do not go back to the date that you are interested and I regret that I am unable to assist you further.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Aug 2011 15:08

Well try and remember Renes! Doh!

That is your allotted task. :-D :-D

Renes

Renes Report 10 Aug 2011 14:35

LK

I have forgotten how I did it now --- but I remember logging on to The Land Registry ( I think) -- giving the address of house we owned ( I wanted to check boundary fence from memory) and could see us listed as owners and the others before us

It is sometime ago when I lived in UK and not altogether with it at present moment in time ---maybe it is worth a route about to see who actually owned the house

Renes

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 10 Aug 2011 07:42

I have a feeling that Dafforne road is the key and may eventually give us answers.

The FG 's were there until late fiftys at least so a long occupancy if rented.

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 9 Aug 2011 23:36

It's very easy to lose the plot isn't it! I did re-read pgs 22-23 last night but failed to remember today that both Evelyn G and Emily F Goddard Fenwick had been found in 1911( I posted earlier that I couldn't find them).

In 1851 Christophine Fenwick's mother Emily is an annuitant and Emily's mother Sarah Ferrand is a Landed Proprietor. Christophine married George Stephen Goddard in 1868. He was a paymaster in the Royal Navy. Just wondering if this monied family might have had something to do with Diane's private allowance before she married.

Oh well. Will keep on digging...........

Julie

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Aug 2011 20:56

Thanks both.

I had noticed Chrstophine in my travels and the double-barrelled name does fluctute a bit.


I have googled Street(ed) both the addresses and yes, very nice indeed.

No worries about side-tracking Chris......it's probably the only way we're going to find her 'cos she sure ain't on the straight and narrow path.





:-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2011 20:49

Wonders if the Mrs P Goddard Fenwick, is the wife of George D C Goddard brother of Evelyn S , he married 1936 Kensington, to a Patricia E M Whitby. (with his mother Christophine on 1891, Devon)

(sorry, not meaning to sidetrack from Macleod)

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 9 Aug 2011 19:58

Oh and 44 Dafforne Rd is on Google Street Maps and very nice it is too!

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 9 Aug 2011 19:48

In haste as I need to be elsewhere shortly!
Think I've tracked the Goddard Fenwick family back to 1851 but haven't time to cut and paste it all so if anyone else wants to have a go please do. Search on Christophine Goddard to find them. Her maiden name was Fenwick. They don't use the double barrel in any of the Census' but it appears in other records like deaths and probate.
I had a wild idea that Diane might be with them in 1911 but can't find them. Wonder if they were in Canada by then.

Here's 1901 for starters:


1901 England Census about Evelyn G S Goddard
Name: Evelyn G S Goddard
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Christophine Goddard
Gender: Female
Where born: Jersey, Channel Islands
Civil parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas South Kennington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Kennington First
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Household schedule number: 258
Piece: 416
Folio: 48
Page Number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Christophine Goddard 57
William H W Goddard 27
Evelyn G S Goddard 25
Emily F Goddard 24
Louisa C C Goddard 18
Edith Middlewick 18

Julie

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Aug 2011 19:06

Hi LK......hope you're okay and stay safe from the dreadful things happening near you.


Re Dafforne Road....I don't remember the phone book info so thanks for that.


If you want to keep occupied, have a read through and see if you can plug any of the gaps which there are.....maybe with completing enquiries into the MacLeod family and finding the missing people. They've got to be somewhere surely?

Keep your chin up....Cx

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 9 Aug 2011 18:35


British Phone Books, 1880-1984
about Mrs P Goddard-Fenwick

Name:

Mrs P Goddard-Fenwick

Address:

44 Dafforne Rd Sw17

Exchange:„#. BALham

City/Town:

Balham

Directory Title:

London Surnames E - K



Publication Year:

1957



Directory County:

London



Page Number:

1244

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 9 Aug 2011 18:29

I am not sure if it has been noted before but I have found both a Goddard Fenwick as well as our Evelyn on the Dafforne Road. I thought you must already have it though. If you want me to look again I will. I need to keep occupied tonight to stop my self shaking.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Aug 2011 13:19

Indeed it does Chris and thanks for that hard work. Glad you slept okay!!


It seems to be that her father wasn't a major if, indeed, he held a rank at all. If, indeed, his name was Robert.......ho hum.


The addresses in Khartoum Road and Dafforne Road, do seem to have been rental properties which doesn't help.

Thank you for the link to Wentworth House - I had tried to find that link recently but failed miserably :-(

I have seen the link re the antique coins thanks.


Any more ideas welcome.... :-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2011 08:06

Well I've been looking in newspapers yesterday for anything on Major Robert, but nothing!, which I thought seemed a bit strange, there's usually some snippet...

I came across a piece on Donald in Tarbat, 1889...
Find of Ancient Coins in Ross Shire.

Several silver coins apparently of great of great antiquity, and two silver rings, have been found in the grave yard of Tarbat parish, Ross shire. the Rev. D. Macleod Tarbat Manse who has the "find" believes the coins to be of even earlier date than the silver pennies of Alexander 1.

http://www.wentworth-house.info/history.htm

(above link for Manse)


WO96 Militia Attestation Papers FMP (added recently) checked there, but nothing, only a Robert born 1880 Stornoway, Seaforth Highlanders, 72nd Foot, son of Angus and Catherine, 11, Branahuie, Stornoway as on 1891 Scottish Census.
So no good there!, wrong age, wrong battalion.


http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I91079&tree=Fasti

(above link comes up on google)

A 41, Dafforne road comes up in The Times, 1931 advert for Rental of Flat, (apparently double fronted house, of two flats) so 44, probably the same.

(phew!, all those Macleods, Mcleods, I slept like a log, lol)

Hoping something soon turns up, would have thought that a Major would have had some mention in a newspaper...

Mystery goes on...

Chris :)






Tabitha

Tabitha Report 9 Aug 2011 05:03

Nudging up again to keep this on the front of the board

All help appreciated - thank you in advance

Renes

Renes Report 8 Aug 2011 18:27

Nudging up

Please read Cynthia s synopsis and see if you can help Evelyn

Evelyn

Evelyn Report 7 Aug 2011 18:25

Thank you so much Cynthia for doing this for me. Yes it would be really wonderful for me if this problem could be solved, some good news would be very welcome just now.
People have been wonderful with this search but sadly Diane still remains hidden.
Much love to you all
Evelyn XX

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 7 Aug 2011 15:28


This search has been going on for over two years now and it still remains a mystery. Here is a brief summary of what we have so far: (As this is really FBG's baby, she has verified this info :-D)

DIANE LESLIE MacLEOD born cJune 1906-8 India?

No verification of this birth can be found whatsoever. Searches have been
made of Indian, Scottish and English births by many people but to no avail as yet.

Possibilities: This is not her real name.
DIANE: Searches have been made under: Donaldina, Dolinda, Dolina etc.

LESLIE: She was very attached to her middle name of Leslie and insisted it was spelt that way. She gave the name to one of her sons. Some searches have been made re this name. More may need to be done.

MacLEOD : On her marriage certificate (1929 in London), she states her
father to be Major Robert MacLeod of the 1st Seaforth Highlanders, Deceased. Nothing of him can be confirmed despite extensive military searches being made. These can be found on ps 2-4 and 14-15 – 29 and 36 of this thread.

Her family were told that she went to live on Stornoway with ‘Aunt Kate and
cousins Donald & Ishbel (Isabelle)’. This family has been researched as probably the family of Rev. Donald MacLeod who was the minister of the church in Tarbat. The present Incumbent of that church has been contacted and was most helpful.

The family consisted of:
Donald Smith MacLeod 1854 -1930 in Roseneath, Dumbarton.
Kate Isles Wylie 1864 - 1935 (Widow) in Roseneath,
Jean Annabella 1888 - ?
Katherine Mary 1890 - ? Married Archibald K. MacLean.
Donald Stanley 1890 – Lieut. RN.
Murdo 1891 - Wounded at Gallipoli
Lizzie Isles 1893 – Married a McMurchie
Hector Ian 1895 – 1916 Killed in Action
Ishbel 1896 – 1976 in Inverness. Married a Grieve
Barabel 1898 – 1923 in Cornwall
Norman 1900 – Wounded in France 1918
Margaret 1900 - ????
Roderick Callum 1902 - ?

More needs to be done on Margaret and Roderick. Margaret was still at home on the 1911. Where did Donald jnr go? Various agencies in Tarbat have been contacted re this family and Diane but nothing found.

It was hoped we had a lead to Jean Annabella but…….? See this link for further info

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1273853

Barabel, who was a Seed Analyst, for the Board of Agriculture, died at the
age of 25 in Cornwall. FBG discovered a family by the name of Bolitho one of whom married a MacLeod from Ross-shire. See p. 44 of this thread for more details.

Diane stated that she went to school in Stornoway. The most likely school
would be the Nicolson Institute. A search has been made for her under D.L.M but there is no sign of her under that name. An enquiry at other local schools may be helpful, maybe looking for a child with the Minister’s address rather than a Diane L. M.

There is no sign of her under DLM on the 1911 Scottish census see p.41

A member on here discovered that ‘Diane’ worked at Springfield Hospital in London from 1927-1928. see p.32. Where was she before that?

In 1929 she married, as Diane Leslie MacLeod, a Herbert R.J. Roy in London. Up until her marriage, she received a private allowance, source unknown. The address given on her marriage certificate is 53 Khartoum Road, Wandsworth, London. The Electoral Roll for 1929 shows the family living at that address were named Kirby. There is no sign of Diane anywhere in Khartoum Road . She may just have been boarding there for a short time prior to her marriage.

Evelyn was born in 1932 at 44 Dafforne Road, Wandsworth and, at least, Diane and her husband show up there on the Electoral Roll. The voters listed at 44 Dafforne Road in 1932 are:

Evelyn Gertrude Goddard-Fenwick Herbert Robert John Roy, Diane Leslie Roy, Kathleen McDowell. The voters listed at the same address in 1931, in case it is of relevance, are Frederick Robert Smithson, Alice Smithson, Edward Hubert Mearing, Doris Mearing, and Kathleen McDowell, and in 1933, Evelyn Gertrude Savile Goddard-Fenwick, Emily Goddard-Fenwick, and Kathleen McDowell. Was this a rental property?

Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick is whom our Evelyn is named after and was her
Godmother. See ps. 22-23 of this thread for more details.

Various living Goddard-Fenwick’s have been contacted but to no avail. You can pm me for details on that.

So this is where the search is up to so far and many members have taken Evelyn and her search to their hearts.

If anyone feels they would like to tackle any of the unresolved issues or
re-check anything that has already been done….please do so. It may be that something has been missed or new information is available. Any new info can be added on here.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could solve this for Evelyn? Cx

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D