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8 Sep 2011 07:08 |
1911 Census
HOUSEHOLD MACLEOD JOHN LESLIE M 1904 7 Kensington London
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8 Sep 2011 06:12 |
Used up a few more credits on the 1911
MCLEOD, James Alexander Head Married M 50 1861 Night Watchman Lpool Grain Storage And Transit Co Ltd At Bootle W Houses Stand Rd Alexander Dock Aldershot VIEW MCLEOD, Katherine Wife Married F 36 1875 Lancs Manchester VIEW MCLEOD, Elizabeth Daughter F 9 1902 Lancs Lpool VIEW MCLEOD, Roy Francis Daughter M 2 1909 Lancs Lpool VIEW MCLEOD, Doreen Winifred Daughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Lancs Lpool VIEW MCLAUGHLIN, Joseph Vincent Brother Single M 19 1892 Barman Threllfalls Brewery Co Ltd Liverpool Lancs Lpool VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 22536 Reference: RG14PN22536 RG78PN1325 RD455 SD8 ED23 SN341 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: South Everton Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Everton Address: 20 Spencer St Everton Liverpool County: Lancashire
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MCLEOD, James Robert Smith Head Married M 58 1853 Supervisor Of Customs And Excise Aylesbury Bucks VIEW MCLEOD, Kate Wife Married 22 years F 48 1863 Leeds Yorkshire VIEW MCLEOD, Kathleen Daughter Single F 21 1890 Northand Typist Chemical Insurance Trade Edinburgh Resident VIEW MCLEOD, Harvey Son Single M 16 1895 Apprentice To Coln Trade Edinburgh Resident VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22438 Reference: RG14PN22438 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED32 SN54 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: Bootle Enumeration District: 32 Parish: Bootle cum Linacre Address: 40 Oxford Road Bootle County: Lancashire or
MACLEOD, Alexander Head Married 5 years M 33 1878 Dock Labourer Glamorgan Swansea VIEW MACLEOD, Catherine Wife Married F 34 1877 Lancashire Blackburn VIEW MACLEOD, William Son M 5 1906 At School Lancashire Clifton VIEW MACLEOD, Alice Daughter F 1 1910 Lancashire Preston VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22434 Reference: RG14PN22434 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED28 SN309 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: Bootle Enumeration District: 28 Parish: Bootle cum Linacre Address: 16 Burns Street Bootle County: Lancashire
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8 Sep 2011 05:59 |
1911 Census West Derby Infirmary Mill Road
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MCLEOD, Robert Patient Married M 53 1858 Scotland Edinburgh VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 22552 Reference: RG14PN22552 RD455 SD8 ED39 SN9999 Registration District: West Derby Sub District: South Everton Enumeration District: 39 Parish: Everton Address: Mill Road Everton Liverpool County: Lancashire
May be no use at all - but loks like the one who died in Liverpool in 1917
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Quoy
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8 Sep 2011 05:29 |
Ancestry wills and probate
Robert Macleod 14 Battery Park Stornoway died 7th March 1917 at Liverpool confirmation to Catherine Macleod Mackinnon widow
Just found this
Welcome to the Associated Clan MacLeod Societies Genealogical Resources Center. Our purpose here is to provide the resources, information, and links you need to research your ties to this ancient Scottish highland clan. Hopefully, we have what you need. We will do all that we can to assist you in your research.
http://www.macleodgenealogy.org/
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8 Sep 2011 00:42 |
What a helpful lady!
Been looking a long time...........................still trying to find the Goddard Fenwick connection. Have trawled the Times Digital Archive several times.
May have found a lead or may be a red herring!
In November 1930 Evelyn GF was at a memorial service for a Mrs Kennedy Fraser (Marjory). This lady was famous in her day for, amongst other things, collecting and publishing songs etc gathered from people in the Hebrides.
Also at this service was a Mr Kenneth Macleod. Needle in a haystack I thought!
However there was a Rev Dr Kenneth Macleod who collaborated musically with Mrs KF. This is mentioned in several obituaries for him in 1955 - he died at the age of 83. He was apparently responsible for the lyrics of Road To The Isles which describes a journey from Perth to Stornoway.
2 years after her death MKF's ashes were taken to Iona for burial. Among those expected to be at the ceremony were a Sir John Lorne Macleod and a Rev Kenneth Macleod.
I mention Sir John because I found him mentioned in another article with some other interesting Macleod names including Rev Kenneth Macleod and Major R C Macleod. Will cut and paste it if I can as it's in the Times Digital Archive. Sorry can't seem to cut and paste it so will come back to that task tomorrow.
If folks could chip in and help to try and find the extended family of Rev KM it may show a connection or disprove one.
Julie
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7 Sep 2011 21:41 |
Thanks Chris.....oh well, we must keep on hoping. It makes you wonder if Jean did go abroad though - she seems to disappear too!
I have received a reply from a very kind lady at Highland Council Archive centre......
****** I have searched the Tarbat Old School Admission Register, 1919-1954 [CRC/5/3/63f] for Diane Leslie MacLeod. Taking into account the possibility of name variations, readmission and allowing for a year of birth later than 1905, I have searched admissions up to 1925. However, I have not been able to locate her in this volume. I have also checked the Parent/Guardian and address columns for information relating to Rev MacLeod and similarly found no relevant entry. This is the only admission register for this school so, unfortunately, I am not able to extend the search to include any earlier registers.
Although school log books do not usually contain references to individual pupils, I have also checked the Tarbat Old School log book [CRC/5/3/63b] covering the period of your enquiry, from January 1910 to the end of December 1917, but have not been able to find any reference to Diane Leslie MacLeod.
I have also undertaken a brief search of admission registers for Tain Public School [CRC/5/3/49h-j] and Tain Academy Admission Register [CRC/5/3/61f] but these searches have yielded no results.
Having checked the County of Ross and Cromarty Valuation Roll for the year 1910-1911 [CRC/4/2/23] I can confirm that a Rev. Donald Macleod is recorded as being the proprietor and occupant of the Manse of Tarbat in this year. Unfortunately, valuation rolls only detail the names of the proprietors and tenants/occupiers of properties and, unlike the census records, do not record entire households.
The next place I would suggest you check is the 1911 Census available via the ScotlandsPeople website, but I see from your email that you have already done this and presumably did not find Diane Leslie MacLeod listed among the people residing at the Manse in 1911.
Since you mention there is a possibility that Diane Leslie MacLeod was illegitimate, I thought to check for poor relief records. Unfortunately, there is relatively little in the way of records for the Parish of Tarbat. We hold a Parish Council Minute Book, 1907-1928, [CRC/6/17/1] in which applications for poor relief and the other business of the Parish Council was recorded. However, this volume is unlikely to contain reference to Diane Leslie MacLeod.
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She also went to mention about searching passenger lists and the NA re Diane's father. I have assured her that all that has been done - but still to no avail.
I had told her about the possibility of Diane not being the real name etc.etc. She seems to have done a thorough search on our behalf ....but we are still hitting out collective heads against that brick wall..... :-S
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7 Sep 2011 09:23 |
Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924 about Jeanie McLeod Name: Jeanie McLeod Gender: Female Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903 Birth Place: Pot Glasgow Age: 20 Date of Arrival: Apr 1923 Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick Port of Departure: London, England Ship Name: Montrose (parents Mr & Mrs Andrew McLeod, 16, Glen Avenue, Port Glasgow, Scotland. passage paid by Salvation Army, intended place of work as domestic, The ? of Ontario, c/o S Army for Ont.)
Adding on Quoys find, saw above, but couldn't see Montrose arriving1923 in Canada Passenger Lists.
Chris :)
(edits lunchtime!) just checked Birth on SP, born 9th Dec. 1902, 16, Park Place, Port Glasgow, parents Andrew and Maggie (nee Mckee, Married 16th Sept. 1902, Port Glasgow) Fathers Occ. Rivetter.
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7 Sep 2011 07:52 |
That's interesting Quoy and definitely need checking out.
Sorry for the disappearance but life keeps taking over - as I'm sure you all understand.
Would love to have a day where we could sit and brainstorm.
Today is manic..........but will be back.........
Cx
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7 Sep 2011 07:02 |
Whilst looking for someone else I always keep an eye out for any Macleod's or Stornaway . I thought I would throw this in as a possible new search route
Today is the 85th anniversary of the departure of the SS Metagama from Stornoway on 21st April 1923 with 260 islanders bound for Canada, an event that has become entrenched in local history.
searching through some of the available ships lists I found this maybe nothing
Jeanie Mcleod domestic Port Glasgow Renfrewshire bound for Canada on the Montrose 30/3/1923
Just found this by Donald Macleod who sailed on the Metagama from Stornaway 1923
http://www.c-e-n.org/emigration.htm
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Tabitha
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1 Sep 2011 06:28 |
Someone suggested the following - so here is the info if you want to go ahead with it
Digging up Your Roots returns for a new series in January 2012. Get in touch now with your genealogy story or query.
Write to: Digging Up Your Roots BBC Radio Scotland Beechgrove Terrace Aberdeen, AB15 5ZT
Just click on the email button - it may be worth a try
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Cynthia
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31 Aug 2011 16:56 |
We'll be wearing that drawing board out soon Kathy :-D
Gee thanks for that towel Fans.....just what we needed....not!
Here is part of a rather long email I received from the present incumbent of Tarbat church earlier this year.
****** OK -- born 1858. At that time Lewis was in Ross-shire. Lochs is a parish on the Isle of Lewis.
Minister of Tarbat Parish means he was the Church of Scotland minister in the parish of Tarbat which includes the village of Portmahomack. E.C. is almost certainly an abbreviation of "Established Church" -- i.e. Church of Scotland. I can only assume that Private House means that it wasn't a hotel or lodging house or hospital or prison or whatever
Large families are nothing unusual among ministers in this community -- I have nine children myself, without any twins among them :-)
Donald MacLeod came as minister of Tarbat in 1885 and continued to 1920 in Tarbat living in the Church of Scotland manse in Portmahomack.
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So that family of MacLeods were in Tarbat for 35 years before moving on....I can remember where to but will check.
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31 Aug 2011 16:18 |
I dont know for sure but feel that Dianes cousin Donald must have been older than her as it was he that explained to her about Monthlies, when the dreaded thing happened to her when they were out on the peat bogs
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31 Aug 2011 15:39 |
Hi all
I thought the reason Rev Donald Macleod and co were selected was because his wife was Kate and they had an Ishbel and a Donald .
Diane said she stayed in Stornaway so it can't be this family as they appear to have lived in Tarbat a very long time .
Had a look at 1901 census and the only families I could find in Stornaway who had children Donald and Isabella ( no Ishbels ) with mother Catherine ( no Kate's ) were Donald Stuart 6 mths f Donald Donald Mackengie 14 yrs f Malcolm ( this is probably a wrong transcription and it should be MacKenzie ) Donald Macaulay 12 yrs f John
I wasted 6 credits on 1911 c checking Donald Stuart but it turned out to be the wrong family and I don't have any more credits .
Of course Donald or/and Ishbel could have been born after 1901 !!!!!
Can't see boys in their teens being very happy to play with a small girl thats why I thought the Stuart boy was a more likely bet
Back to the drawing board
Kathy
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31 Aug 2011 15:10 |
I just hope that if & when Evelyn finds her, she makes it quite clear how much trouble she has caused by being economical with the truth.
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31 Aug 2011 15:05 |
Throws towel in and scarpers to pick and freeze more runner beans.... Beginning to hate the sight of them.
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31 Aug 2011 14:53 |
Having had a quick run through of things Kathy, I think the research done so far as Stornoway/Tarbat etc. are concerned is okay but will check with Fans to make sure.
Rev. Donald MacLeod was born on the Isle of Lewis but became Minister of Tarbat church........if Diane remembered that family, I guess it was whilst they were living in Tarbat. The other three places - Portmahomack etc. are all close by. It looks very isolated, rugged and cold on the pics.
Anyone else going cross-eyed??? :-D
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31 Aug 2011 09:06 |
Thank you everybody for your help and concern. Taking Ron for more blood tests this morning checking that he is fit enough to have more chemo tomorrow, at least he slept last night after takinfg a sleeping tablet, which means I also got some sleep. I wonder if we will ever know Dianes roots, had I not lived with her for almost 19 years I would say she never existed. Much love to you all my friends Evelyn X
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31 Aug 2011 07:33 |
Thanks Kathy - when I have scaled my mountain of ironing, I will check all that info out and, hopefully, improve my knowledge of the geography of Scotland. Please keep searching - it all helps. :-D
Glad you're enjoying the thread Tabitha but wouldn't it be wonderful to one day put up the word COMPLETED after the heading??? :-D
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31 Aug 2011 05:41 |
Well had a quick look on googlemaps -
Stornoway is on the Isle of lewis (as we know) - Tarbat is across the other side of Scotland on the point opposite Lossiemouth one side & Dornoch the other (only places i knew in that area) a fair way up the glenn from Inverness. As the google flies its over 130 miles apart & a ferry crossing. According to Google is a 4 hour drive.
They both look very isolated places - all i can say is Diane certainly picked the areas well to hide herself away in. If she was a wild child then - living in this area in those days would have put a dampner on things for her.
No wonder she escaped to the bright lights of London
I have to admit - i do think this would make a great story for the TV lost & found series.
I love looking back at this thread - all the wonderful people helping out & all the different ideas - its lovely to see everyone all working together to help a friend.
Off to see if I can think of anything else
Hopefull thoughts Evelyn - We are all there for you. <3 <3 <3
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31 Aug 2011 01:03 |
Hi Cynthia
Isle of Lewis is where Stornoway is and the registration distrrict is not the same district of Tarbat Ross and Cromarthy . According to Scotlands People Tarbat is in in Reg No 083 where as Stornoway is Reg No 88 so not the same area .
Hope Evelyn is doing as best as she can
My love and thoughts to her
Kathy
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