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was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 12 Nov 2013 18:33

Traciey

You might well be right but if Diane gave his rank wrongly, what's to say she didn't give his name and regiment wrongly too!

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 12 Nov 2013 05:40

Im not nearly as proficient at researching as you all are, but I continue to try and assist!

I know we have struggled to find any Leslie/MacLeod links in the UK, but I have found these records on familysearch today - the only time I have seen Leslie MacLead:



Duncan Mcleod, "Ontario Marriages, 1869-1927"
Name: Duncan Mcleod
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Dec 1882
Event Place: Lancaster, Ontario, Canada
Age: 33
Father's Name: John Mcleod
Mother's Name: Catherine Mcrae

Spouse's Name: Jenet Leslie
Spouse's Age: 25
Spouse's Father's Name: Malcolm Leslie
Spouse's Mother's Name: Mary Cameron

Page: 011123
GS Film Number: 1869760
Digital Folder Number: 004529136
Image Number: 00730

and these look like some offspring:


Duncan I. Mcleod
Father
Ontario Births, 1869-1912
spouse:Jessie Lesslie
child:John Leslie Mcleod

Duncan I Mcleod
Father
Ontario Births, 1869-1912
spouse:Jessie Lesslie
child:Catharine Flora Mcleod

There do appear to be one or 2 other Macleod/Leslie unions, but every case of Leslie Macleod is retained by the male:

Gordon Mc Leod
Father
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
spouse:Mary Leslie
child:Mary Wilhelmina Louisa Mc Leod

Gordon Mc Leod
Father
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
spouse:Mary Leslie
child:George William Leslie Mc Leod

Herman Mcleod
Father
North Carolina, Birth Index, 1800-2000
spouse:Rose Leslie
child:Robert Russell Mcleod

Not sure if any of these are worth investigating any further????
:-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S

Traciey

Traciey Report 12 Nov 2013 00:01

Good work searching all those Ann. My thinking is that I do believe there was a Robert MacLeod who was father to Diane but not so sure about the officer part, we all have some myths in the family tree somewhere along the line, I think he was probably a regular serving soldier in Seaforth Highs, possibly stationed at the barracks and courted Diane's mother and she was illegitimate, Diane maybe changed her surname to that of her Father's as she got older but might never actually have known him. Diane obviously didn't like her first name and changed that too. There are no birth records of a Diane Leslie or MacLeod so we are back to needle in a haystack searching again.

wisechild

wisechild Report 11 Nov 2013 07:01

Only suggestion I can think of is that Robert was perhaps his 2nd christian name rather than his 1st, or that for some reason he was known as Bob by the family & colleagues & it was assumed that his name was Robert.
For example, I had an Uncle who was universally known as Mick, but his name was actually Horace. Only ever heard my aunt call him that.
This thought doesn´t make the search any easier.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 10 Nov 2013 20:15

I've looked at all those files before so I knew really that none of them would fit. Just wanted to put all the info on the thread. I don't think he was an officer with the Seaforths under that name, but who knows what his real name was or which regiment he was with, or when or even if he served at all!

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Nov 2013 16:02

Thanks again Ann.......so we are back to the fact that Diane's father may not have been an officer then :-S :-S

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 9 Nov 2013 17:58

Last 2 WW1 Officer files for R Macleod/McLeod . As I thought none seem possibilities. Will add all to my Military post on page 102

WO339/131947 Robert Charles McLeod. Born 1894. Previously Sergeant 85762 (Canadian Army). Lived Lansdowne, Canada. Bank clerk. Applied for appointment to RFC.

WO339/113416 Robert McLeod. Born 1/1/1898. Father John, 18 Roxburgh St, Greenock. Previously 175613 RFA. Discharged to commission 2/6/1918.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Nov 2013 15:08

Aw.....thank you Ann. Wonder if we will ever hit on the right one....... :-S

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 7 Nov 2013 17:40

Looked at 3 more R Macleod/ Mcleod WW1 Officers files today

WO339/13344 Ronald McLeod. Born 17/2/1900, Father Roderick (unknown to me). Pte 1/28157. Rejected in application for Flying Officer, 30/11/17. Address The Gardens, Callendar House, Falkirk.

WO339/93853 Reginald Edward James McLeod. Born 12/10/1871, Middlesborough. Joined Leics Regiment as a boy, 1885. Discharged to pension Sept 1908, rank Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant. Appointed as Yeoman Warder of HM Tower of London on discharge and served as such until 23/11/14. Lt, Honorable Artillery Company 5/12/14, Lt Army Ordnance Depot 1916, Capt RAOC 1918,. Left Army Sept 1919, when his address was 191 Wimbledon Park Rd, London SW15. Working as labourer at Ordnance Depot at Bramley, Hants in 1925. Still alive on 20/8/35, when his address was Beausile, Bramley, Hants

WO339/138479 Robert McLeod Born 29/12/1885, Downe, Perthshire. Single in Nov 1917. Address in 1917 8 Balkerach St, Downe. Occupation Salesman and Commercial Traveller. Joined Highland Light Infantry 14/9/14. Company Quartermaster Sergeant 19545

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2013 07:06

ah!

I guess I haven't looked at this thread on the Board ............... I usually only go to My Threads!

wisechild

wisechild Report 31 Oct 2013 07:00

It´s been like that for several months Sylvia & the system won´t allow it to be unticked, so we just have to ignore it.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2013 04:36

who's ticked this thread as problem solved????????????????????????

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 30 Oct 2013 17:05

2 more R Macleod/Mcleod WW1 Officer files looked at today

WO339/124541 Robert Leighton McLeod.Previously Pte 911823, late British Columbia Regimental Depot. Commissioned RFC 21/2/18. Born Pullman, Washington, USA, 28/1/1899. Father Rev A.M (?) Mcleod, lived Chilliwack, British Columbia.

WO339/34127 Capt Robert Mitchell McLeod MC. Army Cyclist Corps. Served 12/7/15-29/1/19. Born 11/12/1888, Glasgow. Single in Jun 1915. Address in Jun 1915 4 Belgrave St, Glasgow. Occupation Student and Teacher. Address in 1931 Clarebrand, Castle Douglas, Kircudbrightshire.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 28 Oct 2013 15:38

Thanks for ploughing through them Annie...... <3

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 26 Oct 2013 18:29

Looked at 2 more R Macleod/Mcleod WW1 Officers files today

WO374/45067 Roderick Paterson Macleod,b Knockbain(?), nr Dingwall, Ross-shire 25/12/1877, d 14/12/1918, 2 Lt,Royal Engineers. Wife Elizabeth Jane, nee Rusbridge. Married 1909, Preston, Sussex. No children mentioned. Lived Brighton.

WO374/45066 Robert Duncan Macleod, b 27/6/1885, Greenock. 2nd Lt, Highland Light Infantry, previously Lance Corporal, no 266807. Mother Jessie. Occupation Librarian. Single in 1916. Lived 50 Thistle St, Dunfermline.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 24 Oct 2013 15:31

Yes, any previous service SHOULD be in the Officers file but as these files have been heavily weeded, that's not necessarily the case.

There's also the fact that if he served after 1921 his record would still be with the MOD.

Don't know whether the 8th Bn man was the same as the man awarded the MC. I have more files to look at, though.

Traciey

Traciey Report 24 Oct 2013 12:45

Hi Ann, yes you are correct about officers records but was hoping to find anything just something maybe prior to the time served before becoming an officer, so am I right in assuming that when a soldier became an officer those previous ranks and information is kept and contained in the officers file?

Well done on searching through the three officers above, so we can rule these three out as there is no Stornoway connection and no female child. The Robert from 8th Seaforth Highs was he the same chap who was awarded the MC?

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Oct 2013 17:05

Have looked at 3 WW1 Officers files today at Kew -
WO339/36766 Robert Macleod, 8th Seaforths, born 24/10/1890, single (a bit young to be Diane's father). Schoolmaster. Served 27/2/15-20/2/19 2 different addresses - Edderton House, Edderton, Ross shire and View Cottage Edderton, Ross-shire.

WO374/45065 Lt Robert McLeod, RGA. Born 29/8/1886, married. Previously Serg, no 17597. Enlisted 1903. Was in Hong Kong from Oct 1907 - date illegible. Address in Sept 1919 27 Dundee Terrace, Edinburgh. Previous address 171 Dalry (?) Rd, Edinburgh. Discharged 1919.

WO374/45068 Robert Watson McLeod. Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, but had served in RGA (T) for 4 years sometime 1915 or before. Born Anstruther, Fife. Aged 28 in 1916. Married Margaret Jane Walker 9/9/14. 1 child John Walker McLeod, born Glasgow 9/6/15. Address in Nov 1915 63 Calder St, Crosshill, Glasgow.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 23 Oct 2013 13:54

Hi everyone - I've been a bit sidetracked with my OH having to have an eye op this week. :-(


Thanks for all the comments. Thanks for the medal cards Tracie - the enduring problem is, of course, WHICH Robert MacLeod is the one we are looking for? There are so many of them.





Diane

Diane Report 22 Oct 2013 17:07

If you go to www.1914-1918.net/15div.htm there is a dedication to Robert MacLeod who was commissioned into the 8th Seaforth, it goes on to say he was a trench mortar officer.

The 8th Seaforth was a K2 regiment formed of mostly volunteers in 1914, so wherever Robert was before then remains a mystery.

I came across an article regarding the British artillery in the beginning of WWI and it gave one of the reasons for it being so poor as the sergeants who had been promoted had to accomplish their officer and gunnery training in 8 months. So it is possible that Robert was a sergeant prior to the war.