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Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Oct 2011 14:44

Jan......great minds and all that! I was just going to do that when I decided to google the Springfield Hopsital for it's correct address and came upon the following......


SPRINGFIELD HOSPITAL, WANDSWORTH: CASE BOOKS AND INDEXES, 1849-c.1938; NETHERNE HOSPITAL, COULSDON: NEWSLETTER, 1975
Reference Number: 6367

Provenance
Deposited under the 1958 Public Records Act by the General Services Manager of Pathfinder Mental Health Services NHS Trust, Springfield University Hospital, in March 1997.
-
Introduction
In 1889 responsibility for Springfield Hospital was transferred from Surrey County Council to Middlesex County Council and, almost immediately, to the newly created London County Council.
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The records
The LMA did not wish to retain the case books and it was decided that Surrey Record Office should keep those relating to the period when Springfield was a Surrey institution.


This is the link to the site.......gotta go for a while......back later....



http://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/GetRecord/SHCOL_6367

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2011 14:34

automatic response from LMA so fingers crossed for a few days!!
We aim to answer 90% of enquiries within 10 working days, and 100% within 20
working days.

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2011 14:30

Cynthia Just managed to email LMA asking if they have staff records and if so what we might find in them

wisechild

wisechild Report 10 Oct 2011 14:28

Hardly like to mention this as I´m sure someone will have found it before, but haven´t time to check right through the thread.

1871 6 Francis St Stornoway.
John Macleod 47
Ann Macleod 43
Robert Macleod 13
Allan Macleod 10
Catherine Macleod 8
Alex Murdo Macleod 6

Was Catherine Aunt Kate???
Her married name was Mackinnon & in 1881 she was without a husband, but had 4 children & her mother Annie Macleod living with her, still at 6 Francis St
Also, presumably Diane went to the same school as her cousins.
has anybody checked the schools for likely Donals & ishbels?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Oct 2011 14:22

Have just googled the LMA but the site is running slow at the mo. Just wondered if they could be contacted by phone to save anyone the trip. Will keep you posted.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Oct 2011 14:16

I think it's worth a go Jan. I will put a thread up now. Thanks. Every little helps.


Tabitha, we all feel pretty redundant on here at times I can you!


I am also going to contact my contact from Stornoway re the Nicolson Institute records - he was very helpful re looking for Diane under that name. I will ask if it's possible to have a list of girls born between 1904-1908. Hope there aren't hundreds of them :-S


jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2011 14:14

also note closure dates for LMA

Annual stocktake closure

London Metropolitan Archives will be closed to the public from 4.45pm on Friday 28 October and will re-open at 9.30am on Monday 14 November 2011.

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2011 13:40

some info from site
Records of
Springfield Hospital, Bexley
Hospital (opened by the London
County Council in 1898), Horton
Hospital (opened by the London
County Council in 1902), Napsbury
Hospital (opened by Middlesex
County Council in 1905) and
Shenley Hospital (opened by
Middlesex County Council in 1934)
have also been deposited in LMA.
The records
of the Metropolitan Asylums Board
which are held by LMA are mainly
administrative, but they include
registers of staff employed at some
of their hospitals and asylums

Tabitha

Tabitha Report 10 Oct 2011 13:29

Anything to do with Dover Castle - St James - or St Mary - Guston or Charlton

Let me know as i am focusing on that area at the moment & will be in the archive on Saturday - so i can do some digging for you

Was begining to feel redundant on this thread
My father-in-law worked at Dover Castle

You never know - i may turn up something there for you

At last i can be useful again - big sigh
:-D :-D :-D

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2011 13:22

Cynthia, i see FBG has asked at the hospital and someone has checked nurses records at Kew but i just wonder if there is anything different in records at London Met .Archives? will have a look again at info on the Met. site

Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Oct 2011 11:13



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Jessie M Macleod
Birth Date: abt 1874
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1939
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 175


Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Oct 2011 09:32


Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mr Robert Lockhart Ross MACLEOD
Date of departure: 14 March 1931
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Genoa
Destination country: Italy

Date of Birth: 1864 (calculated from age)
Age: 67
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Rtd Colonel
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 9

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mrs Jessie MACLEOD


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Ship: JOHAN VAN OLDENBARNEVELT
Official Number:
Master's name: C ?
Steamship Line: Nederland Royal Mail Line
Where bound: Java, Indonesia
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 19000
Passengers on voyage: 129


67 Park Road, Chiswick




Passenger lists leaving UK 1890-1960

Name: Mr Robert Lookhart Ross MACLEOD
Date of departure: 29 December 1933
Port of departure: Southampton
Destination port: Genoa
Destination country: Italy

Date of Birth: 1863 (calculated from age)
Age: 70
Marital Status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Retired Colonel
Notes:
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 7

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -
Mrs Jessie Mackay MACLEOD


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Ship: JOHAN VAN OLDENBARNEVELT
Official Number:
Master's name: C L Gulsing
Steamship Line: Nederland Royal Mail Line
Where bound: Java, Indonesia
Square feet:
Registered tonnage: 19000
Passengers on voyage: 89


67 Park Road, Chiswick

Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Oct 2011 09:18




1881 Scotland Census

Name: Robert L R Macleod
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: India
Registration Number: 644/9
Registration district: Kelvin
Civil parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Occupation: Medical Student
ED: 57
Household schedule number: 80
Line: 9
Roll: cssct1881_236
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Pender 53
Helen Pender 44
>>>>>Robert L R Macleod 17



Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Barony; ED: 57; Page: 14; Line: 9; Roll: cssct1881_236; Year: 1881.


Choccy

Choccy Report 10 Oct 2011 09:16



posting for info (in case hasn't been looked at before) - too many pages to search !


1891 England Census

Name: Robert Lockhart Ross Macleod
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Gender: Male
Where born: India

Civil parish: Dover Castle
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Guston
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Dover
Sub-registration district: St James
ED, institution, or vessel: Dover Castle Military Station Barracks
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 742
Folio: 92
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
William Jarvis 47
Fanny Elizabeth Jarvis 47
Ada Beatrice Jarvis 14
Walter Ernest Jarvis 13
Ellan Maud Jarvis 11
Percy Bower Jarvis 10
Fanny Elizabeth Jarvis 6
>>>>>>Robert Lockhart Ross Macleod 27
Frederick John Stewart Clive 28
James Stewart Douglas 32
Granville Joseph Chetwynd Stapylton 19
John Vernon Timmis 19
Henry Norrington Packard 21
Reginald Gordon Merriman 24
John Natt Reid 25
Ernest Leith Tomkins 22
George Ortavius Shaw Pringle 23
Tom St Aubyn Barrett Leonard Nevenson 21
Glynne Everard Earl Welby 18




Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 742; Folio 92; Page 2; GSU roll: 6095852.


He was a Surgeon (Army Medical Staff)





UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Robert Lockhart Ross Macleod
Birth Date: abt 1864
Age: 70
Port of Departure: Jakarta, Indonesia
Arrival Date: 16 Apr 1934
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ports of Voyage: Jakarta
[Colombo]
[Algiers]
Ship Name: Marnix van Sint Aldegonde
Search Ship Database: Search the 'Marnix van Sint Aldegonde' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Nederland Royal Mail Line



Source Citation: Class: BT26; Piece: 1053; Item 6



travelling with wife Mrs. Jessie Gallwey Macleod.
UK destination address - 67 Park Road, Chiswick, London W4



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005

Name: Robert L R Macleod
Birth Date: abt 1863
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1943
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Kensington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 175


Cynthia

Cynthia Report 10 Oct 2011 08:54

Good morning all. Thanks for all the above. I have a feeling Robert Lockhart has been investigated. I've been trying to find the page but am off to the dentist soon :-(



Wonder if it's worth Fans finding that authority from Evelyn and giving those records another shot.........??? If she was giving them a sob story, they probably couldn't understand a word she said ;-)



I am wondering how to put all the information we have gathered into a sensible order. I know that the precis helped but I feel it needs to be more precise!


I had wondered about separate threads eg. the Robert MacLeod search - the info we have on schools - the MacLeod family from Tarbat - etc. but I am not sure all the other members would appreciate so many thread appearing.


I will do my best to get a more precise version of the precis done......my week doesn't look TOO bad ......... famous last words!



Mind you, we are all in this together, so to speak. If anyone would like to take a 'subject' eg. Robert - schools - family etc., I am willing to share the load :-D :-D

It just means trawling through the thread and picking out the relevant bits and putting them altogether.


Any other ideas very welcome.


:-D

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 10 Oct 2011 08:04

Armed Forces BMD details
Registration event: Marriage
MarriageFinder™: Robert Lockhart R Macleod married Jessie Macdonald

Name: MACLEOD, Robert Lockhart R
Place: Rangoon
Country: Burma
Year: 1896
Page: 175
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1911 for GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

Name: MACDONALD, Jessie
Place: Rangoon
Country: Burma
Year: 1896
Page: 175
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1911 for GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
Record source: GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)

(details for that find Jan)

Chris :)

jansmith

jansmith Report 10 Oct 2011 05:40

found this! searching 1914-1920
T. /2nd Lt. (T./Lt.) Robert Macleod, Gen.
List, frmly. Sea. Highrs.

from
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/1914-01-01;1920-12-31/exact=robert+macleod/start=1



forces marriage on FMP(not got sub yet to have a look at this index)
armed forces marriages 1796-2005 search results
Search criteria used:
Marriages from 1885 to 1911
First name(s): Robert (including variants)
Last name: Macleod (including variants)



Last name First names Country Year
MACLEOD Robert Lockhart R Burma 1896

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 9 Oct 2011 22:25

FBG

Think it was me who looked at Kew re Nurses records.

What do you think about my suggestion above re the school? If we could get names/dob/addresses/next of kin of all girls born June 1904-1908 say, perhaps we can pin her down!

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 9 Oct 2011 20:36

All that was on it was her name and the dates she worked there they said...

I can try to get the actual file if you like(when I find Evs letter of permission)But they were insistent that that was all it said.....And trust me they would have told me ALL that was on it after the sob story they got from me plus the constant phone calls..:)
Someone did spend some time at Kew (sorry,cant remember who)going through SRN records and other stuff but there are LOADS of books it would seem and they ran out of steam...

But it is most likely that she was just a carer or Auxillary nurse I would think...

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 9 Oct 2011 20:29

Fans.........dearest..........




Can you remember if there was any more info to be had re Diane working at Springfield Hosp. See Jan's comments above.......