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This is why I don't volunteer to do census searches.......you're all so good at it and I'm rubbish. Mind you, I'm a dab hand at abstract - out of the box googling :-D

I'm just happy to keep you all happy :-D


Not sure about keeping that Fans happy though...........she can't 'alf slap hard. Miserable old bat that she is. :P


Goes off rubbing ear :-( ;-)


Continuing thanks for your efforts. <3 <3

Possible link here???
George Dunlop Leslie b abt 1836 married Lydia Fenwick b abt 1845
20 7 1871 St Mary Ealing.
George, bachelor ,artist
Lydia spinster
Fathers Charles Robert Leslie Artist
Joseph Fenwick wine merchant.

Will take a closer look later today. He who must be obeyed is clapping his hands with impatience because I´m not paying attention.

Okay! I've found the email but no eureka moment so decided to go back to the start!
Just musing - Robert might have been a piper and could therefore be a pipe major without being an army major.

Why did we discount this Robert, can you remember?? It's on page 2.
He's still (or perhaps, is back) in Fort George in 1891 census.

FannyByGaslight Report 10 Mar 2009 00:22

this was the one i thought a likely candidate for diane mcleods father

1881

Name: Robert McLeod
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Private H.R.M. (Private)
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland G, Stornoway, Rossshire
Registration Number: 91
Registration district: Ardersier
Civil Parish: Ardersier
County: Invernessshire
Address: On The Moray Firth
Occupation: Herring Fisherman
ED: Fort George and Fortified Garrison
Line: 10
Roll: cssct1881_25

Enough for now, I'm off to bed!!

I need to go over the thread again. In fact, I think you emailed a synopsis at one point so will check it out.

I found a Diane MacLeod born in Caithness, wrong age and couldn't connect her to the Stornoway ones, though the name Leslie was in that particular family.
When I find a birth I like to "kill" the person off but she didn't die in Scotland.
She "bothered" me for quite a while as I couldn't rule her out, apart from the location as Caithness is on the extreme North East of Scotland whereas Lewis is extreme North West!

Can't help but think I have missed something, though, FBG :-S so would welcome any interruption to my train of thought!!

The information given by your Stornoway contact looks good but I can't find any of them in India Street. :-| In fact, I can't even find India Street on a census!!! I'll check them out at Gros as I can check all the pages and also the headings to see what streets were recorded.
The houses there are fairly new so I'm wondering if that's where the family live now, or did in recent years.

Baggage Cynf???>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BANG AND SLAP.


Woody you are doing brill on the attempt to locate the Catherine Mary child...As is Vicci.
Well done on finding that 1911 census.

I have wondered many times though if "Diane"did the party trick of taking a few years off her age though...She fibbed about most things it seems and said nowt about anything meaningful so maybe..?

I will not interupt your trains of thought though as I HATE that done to me...

Brill work every one and thank you all so much for stalwart help in a long and on going "whoisshe"..

:-D

Happy to help, Evelyn! Robert Ian just might be the name, I haven't seen either name on any Lewis things we've looked at but we've only scratched the surface of M*cLeods!!

My cousin's husband is a MacLeod from Lewis. His parents were both MacLeods so you can just imagine how hard it would be to do his tree!!
They went over three years ago to see an elderly relative who still lives on the croft and between them all they managed to work out who was who.

Vicci
I got totally carried away with the Catherine Mary births :-0
This lot were cath*rine m* 1906 - 1911 and I checked all except 1 & 8.

1 1907 MACLEOD CATHERINE MACGR F CARLOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 086/0B 0056
2 1906 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0222
3 1907 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0047
4 1909 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0263
5 1910 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0046
6 1910 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0239
7 1911 MACLEOD CATHERINE MARY F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0093
8 1909 MCLEOD CATHERINE MARGA F KNOCKBAIN /ROSS AND CROMARTY 073/00 0022
9 1906 MCLEOD CATHERINE MARY F LOCHS /ROSS AND CROMARTY 087/00 0096
10 1907 MCLEOD CATHERINE MARY F LOCHS /ROSS AND CROMARTY 087/00 0118

This lot were Kat* M* 1906 - 11 and I looked at all except number 3. Glenshiel is on the mainland on the road from Skye to Inverness/Fort William.

1 1906 MACLEOD KATIE MARY F CARLOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 086/0B 0030
2 1908 MACLEOD KATIE MARY F CARLOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 086/0B 0048
3 1910 MACLEOD MARY KATE F GLENSHIEL /ROSS AND CROMARTY 067/00 0004
4 1910 MCLEOD KATIE MARY F LOCHS /ROSS AND CROMARTY 087/00 0074
5 1911 MCLEOD KATIE MARY F LOCHS /ROSS AND CROMARTY 087/00 0083

I really need that visit to Gros!! She's gotten under my skin. I bet it's recorded under Catherine but no point in wasting credits when I can check them all at Gros.
By the way, I have Angus 13 Vatisker on the 1915 valuation rolls. I do have a Kenneth but he's at 35 Keith Street and I'd like to check further births/deaths and marriages to see if the family were there at any time to make sure he's the right Kenneth.
:-S

I wonder if Robert,s second name was Ian, I have a brother. Ian also a brother Robert.
Will Diane ever be traced I wonder, gosh what was she hiding.
Thank you all for your interest and help I really do appreciate it
Love to you all my friends
Evelyn

No obvious connections here apart from the surname, but with Evelyn´s mum, anything is possible.
Robert Macleod marr Constance Alice Harrison 1st quarter 1908 St George Hanover Square. (can´t find it on London marriages on Ancestry.....probably mistranscribed)
Helen Kathleen Macleod marr Geoffrey Bright Morris 9.1.1909 St Cuthbert Kensington.
Fathers
Robert I.M Macleod Royal Navy
William Morris artist
Witnesses Charles & Frederica Maundrell.
Address Philbeach Gardens.
Looking at the census Helen was an actress prior to her marriage & I seem to recall way back in the mists of time, there was a Helen Macleod returning from India on the passenger lists.
Was Geoffreys´father THE William Morris? :-S :-S :-S

(sends Cynthia tin helmet at the ready!!, lol)

Chris :)

By the way Jooleh, I sent my FB contact that link re the wedding in Canada and he was so pleased. He hadn't seen it before! Considering it was such an interesting family, I'm quite surprised that someone within their ranks hasn't put their tree together. Another job for Fans maybe........ ;-)

Apologies folks......I've been side tracked on another thread which is dear to my heart.


That story is really interesting Woody's. Also, it reminds me that our Evelyn's Godmother, Evelyn G-F, had Canadian connections.


My contact on FB seems to have been a generation out in his thinking. He was giving me information on another Evelyn within his family in error. I have pointed out that I was, actually, asking about the Evelyn who had been born c1873 and whom he would not have met because she died before he was born. I am still waiting for his response to that....hopefully, he is re-asking his family members - one can but live in hope :-D


Off to look at that link now.


Continuing thanks for your efforts.........you're a good bunch. <3

woody's which catherine mary births did you check?

I would suspect that "Diane´s" mother died when she was born, or shortly after. That may explain why she never spoke of her & why there are no apparent siblings..
Wonder if Robert re married & that was the reason she was sent to her relatives?.

That sounds an interesting programme, this 'Thread' gets more informative all the time...

How many more Macleods can there be, lol, don't answer that!!.

Chris :)

That story sounds uncannily familiar (The names have been changed to protect the innocent, as they say).
Certainly gives food for thought & could explain why there´s no obvious birth registration if Diane was registered under another name.
It will be like looking for a needle in a haystack if that´s the case. :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S

Vicci posted the 1901 census for Kenneth MacLeod at 14 Aird Tong. On it there was a brother called Alex aged 7.
Pretty sure this is him.
http://facesmemorial.blogspot.co.uk/2007/06/aird-tong.html

The other night I watched a programme on BBC Alba about the descendants of families from Lewis and Harris who had emigrated to Canada and the hardships they found there.
Life wasn't all good and some returned home to the Hebrides.
There was one woman who was born in Canada but then her mother died. For 8 years she was brought up in Canada by either her father's relatives or her mother's - I'm insure which as I missed the start of the programme.
At the age of eight she was taken back to Lewis and brought up by an aged aunt and uncle on their croft.
Her name was changed - no-one seems to know why - and she was known by her "new" name from then on.
She went on to marry the boy next door who also happened to be the first child she saw in Lewis.
She was born in the 1920's but it does have similarities to Diane's story!

Name changing in the islands happens all the time, usually because of the death of a family member so the name can be continued.
My great great grandfather was a Kenneth Campbell who died in August 1863. In June 1863 his eldest daughter had an illegitimate son called Robert and then changed his name to Kenneth following her father's death! At least they had the decency to do the thing properly and record the change on the certificate!
Also common is the practice of giving two siblings the same name. The daughter referred to in the paragraph above was called Marion and born in 1831, but in 1847 another daughter was also called Marion, coincidentally her grandmother (also Marion) died in 1847.

Anyway, none of that helps to find Diane's parents but if Catherine MacLeod is the Aunt Kate referred to, is Diane descended from Catherine's ancestors or her husband's ancestors?

I saw the patronym A Phrois mentioned. Phrois is the Gaelic for pride.

Well done finding them in the census, Vicci.
I've had a look at the "likely suspects" and also checked a couple of Katie Mary births but alas none are children of Kenneth and Catherine.
I hope to get to Gros soon and will check all the Mac/McLeod births on Lewis in that time frame.
I did find Bella's birth though - she was Isabella Margaret and born at 8 New Street, Stornoway on 26th or 27th July 1906.
The informant was Grandfather Angus MacLeod from Vatisker!