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Susan

Susan Report 28 Apr 2013 10:30

Is this the one K ?.
This man is travelling on his own to
6 Pall Mall London,listed as from other parts of British Empire,born in 1901 so don't think it is him .

1960 Results
..UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
about Major R McLeod Name: Major R McLeod
Birth Date: abt 1901
Age: 38
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 13 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay
[Karachi]
Ship Name: City of Hong Kong
Search Ship Database: Search the 'City of Hong Kong' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Ellerman City Line
Official Number: 147140

Kay????

Kay???? Report 28 Apr 2013 08:40

Amanda

Its listed just as,ANC------

Major R Macleod.

the destinaion Liverpool from Bombay.

Edit---Britishnewspapers?

search as,,,

Major Macleod throws some,,

I would have thought that to reach a rank of Major would have been quite an event and a mention somewhere local of his home place.?

Susan

Susan Report 28 Apr 2013 08:12

Just a stab in the dark.

UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949
about Robert Macleod Name: Robert Macleod
Campaign or Service: Gibraltar, Malta, Egypt
Service Date: 1899-1902
Service Location: Gibraltar, Malta, Egypt
Regiment or Unit Name: 3rd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders
Regimental Number: 4146

Posted at Fort George 12th April 1902
By Lt Col Hecto Munro Bomby 3rd Seaforth High's.( From Image).

..............................................................
Did also find on Ancestry

Promotions and appointments 19th Oct 1892 Indian Staff Corps.

Captains to become Majors ( Pub 16th dec Gaz )

R W Mcleod :-S.

....................................
Just another straw.

..Indian Army Quarterly List for 1 January 1912
about MacLeod General Text: Surname: MacLeod
NAME RANK: Bt.-Col. R. W.
DATE AWARD: 28 June 07
NAME AWARD: Order of the Bath - Military Companions (C. B.)
Page #: 618

I have no idea what the order of Bath means?
Trying to concentrate on Robert if that will help at all
...............................................................................
As you can see there are a lot to choose from re medal recipients.


PreviewName: Robert Macleod

UK, Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1949

PreviewName: Robert Macleod
Campaign or Service: Gibraltar, Malta, Egypt
Service Date: 1899-1902
Service Location: Gibraltar, Malta, Egypt
Regiment or Unit Name: 3rd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders
Regimental Number: 4146

Robert Macleod 3rd Battalion Seaforth Highlanders Gibraltar, Malta, Egypt 1899-1902

R Macleod 1st Battalion Royal Fusiliers South Africa 1899-1902

PreviewName: R Macleod
Campaign or Service: South Africa - Second Boer War
Service Date: 1899-1902
Service Location: South Africa


R Macleod 19th Lothian Company 6th Battalion South Africa 1899-1902

R L R Macleod Royal Artillery Medical Corps South Africa 1899-1902

R L R Macleod Royal Army Mediocal South Africa 1899-1902

R W Macleod 1st Battalion Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders Egypt 1882

R W Macleod 1st Battalion The Queens Own Cameron Highlanders Egypt 1882

R W Macleod 1st Battalion Egypt 1882

Do we know when Robert left the Army and when and where he died ? :-S

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 27 Apr 2013 21:19

Have just looked at the Medal Roll for the India General Service Medal of 1908. 1st Battalion Seaforths are included but there is no officer named Macleod or Leslie. There's a Private R Macleod, Regimental no 9801, with remark "Sent home to Army reserve" His records, if they have survived, might be on FMP or even Ancestry.

Amanda,

Amanda, Report 27 Apr 2013 18:55

Hi Kay,

I can't see the entry anywhere, maybe I am on the wrong site?

I have had a look at the newspapers this afternoon searching Stornoway and MacLeod 1900 - 1953

I did find a mention of Isabella who was 107 when she died:
Publication:Nottingham Evening Post
Publication date:Friday 05 November 1943
Article text:"Isabella Macleod. Island of Lewis, Stornoway, was 106 on Wednesday."

But that was all it said about her.

I also found this but too late for our Diane?

Publication:Inverness Courier
Publication date:Tuesday 18 September 1928
Article text:"Dinah Macleod Stornoway. 4 Dancing Highland Fling

It gives no further details just a list of who else was attending.

Kind regards
Amanda

Traciey

Traciey Report 27 Apr 2013 18:43

Cynthia I think your correct if I remember there was a bit of research done on that Patrick and family but I'm happy to plug away at the family for a bit yet and I will post fully what I find.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 27 Apr 2013 17:20

can someone see incoming...

Major R Mcleod from Bombay to Liverpool.......anyone with him,,,?


also Springfield Hospital......was called Springfield Asylum back in 1920s,then Springfield Mental Hospital.....now its pc of course.

in the scotish army,

Drum Major,Pipe Major,,easy to confuse as a child.

edit,,,,,,,,the trouble with Scotlands 1911 its doesnt give a place of birth or occupations,,,,,,,

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 27 Apr 2013 17:04

Right! Playing catchup again.


Kay.... Evelyn will probably remember her mother's funeral but I will ask her if she can recall who was there.


Sue....Am hoping that Evelyn manages to get hold of the certificate this weekend. We do have the names of the witnesses - I posted them yesterday. Also, if you look further back in the thread, the electoral rolls have already been checked. If you could list them for us on a separate posting, that would be great. Have a good weekend.


Traciey...thanks for the census - I've added it to the EGF post. Thanks also for the precis on Kathleen McDowell.


I have a feeling that Patrick has been looked at, but it may be worth you checking through and, again, making a separate posting about him.


Vicci....would you be able to communicate with Kathy (above) re Aunt Kate please? Yes, Diane's private allowance is a mystery.


Kathy...if you could look at Vicci's findings please, that would be a help if you find anything that needs checking out at the office. The old lady was 107 - it was moi who got it wrong and was duly slapped by FBG !


There are now 100 pages of this thread. If we can gather all the salient points and post them as separate posts, it will make life much easier and I won't need to keep ploughing through the 100 pages, but just move forward..... :-D


You're a great bunch.....thanks...... :-)

Traciey

Traciey Report 27 Apr 2013 17:04

To be honest I would leave the Aunt Kate thing well alone for now (just a personal opinion of course :-) ) Aunt Kate could be anyone from either side of Diane's family and the surname is just a guess, so much research went into looking for Aunt Kate and she couldn't be identified.

Kathy near the

Kathy near the Report 27 Apr 2013 16:37

I am more than happy to do bmd and census look ups at the reg office .

Getting a bit confused however .There have been several ages given for aunty Kate's death . 107 104 and I think I remember 91 at some point .Also from memory I thought Evelyn said it was in the paper early 50's

Could some one clarify that as I have not been able to find the original post

thanks

Kathy

Vicci

Vicci Report 27 Apr 2013 13:28

I've been involed in this post since the beginning.

recently I did a lot of research on the Isabella MacLeod who died aged 107

I have never in that found anyone connected called ROBERT

problem is that some of the offspring married other MacLeod's so very difficult to follow through
for instance
Catherine Mary MacLeod dof Isabella married Kenneth MacLeod

I have put some of my findings on a tree on ancestry tree is called "Isabella MacLeod"..there are several other trees with her in.

Did Isabella leave a will in 1945? those dates not available on scotland people.

I went mad on scotlands people and have loads of data
however I am of oversaeas for the next month so unlikely to have time to send the data to anyone. if someone Pm's me their email address I will try to send the data.


A long shot is to try and find out where Diane was getting she money from prior to marriage the allowance she was getting. Was there a solicitor ..maybe the practise is still going and has archives..her bank account???

If you look back near the beginning of the thread you'll see my thoughts on where the Seaforth Highlanders may have been at the time of her birth
I think more likely Egypt...or South Africa

if in India , Robert Macleod should have got the India Medal from that time, however I have not been able to find the right register/index to look at at the National Archives.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 27 Apr 2013 12:37

Back later......... :-D :-D :-D :-D

Traciey

Traciey Report 27 Apr 2013 12:04

Has anyone looked at the MacLeod family living across the road from Evelyn Goddard Fenwick, they are there for a number of years. Evelyn is at number 42 Foulser Road and Patrick MacFarlane MacLeod and his wife Norah Douthwitt Maud MacLeod live at number 31 Foulser Road. Can't find their marriage though if anyone wants to have a look. This is Patrick at home with his parents before his marriage to Norah. I can't find Patrick in 1911.

1901 Census
Patric M Macleod
Age:23
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1878

Relation:Son

Father's Name:
Patrick M Macleod

Mother's Name:
Jennet F Macleod

Gender:
Male

Where born:
Liverpool

Civil parish:
Wandsworth

Ecclesiastical parish:
St Mary Magdalene

County/Island:
London

Country:
England

Registration district:
Wandsworth

Household Members:
Name
Age

Patrick M Macleod 57 Presbyterian Minister b Scotland
Jennet F Macleod 56 b Scotland
Donald Macleod 25 Ship Brokers Clerk b Liverpool
Patric M Macleod 23 Produce Brokers Clerk b Liverpool
Jessie S Macleod 14 Attending School b Canada
Helen M Simpson 30 Step daughter b India
Bridget A Odonnell 30 General Servant b Ireland

Just another to rule out I suppose and unfortunately I'm not too good with Ancestry. I will have another look tonight.



















Traciey

Traciey Report 27 Apr 2013 10:50

Chris Ho I done a bit of research on Kathleen McDowall last year and never came up with much although what I can say is there was a small link to Scotland. Kathleen's mother was Janetta Blair born Devon and her father James Blair was born in Glasgow, Scotland, he was in the Royal Navy and the family ended up in Liverpool, Devon & Kent. So to summarise Kathleen McDowell's maternal grandfather was Scottish and met his wife Esther in Liverpool and had around 7 children. Between 1891 and 1901 Esther left her husband James Blair to live with a man called George Rome in Kent and she went on to have two children with him. Anything else I can post just ask, I have all the censuses related to the Blair & McDowell's saved and if my memory serves me I was in touch with FBG about what I found last year.

Traciey

Traciey Report 27 Apr 2013 10:26

Evelyn G Fenwick 1891?



Name:
Effie G Goddard
Age:
16
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1875

Relation:
Boarder

Gender:
Female

Where born:
Jersey, Channel Islands

Civil parish:
Paignton

Ecclesiastical parish:
Christchurch

Town:
Preston

County/Island:
Devon

Country:
England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Household Members:

Name

Age

Adelaide Kellett 46
Louisa E Kellett 44
Isabella M Kellett 42
Constance M Parmenter 16
Edith A Parmenter 15
Mary M Parmenter 12
Waller C Puckard 7
Caroline E Wade 15
Jessie A Wade 14
Ruth L Norman 14
Gertrude M Norman 12
Effie G Goddard 16
Louisa C Goddard 8
Mary J Withers 52
Lousia Bishard 39
Elsie Koch 25
Annie Cole 24














Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Apr 2013 08:14

(probably not 'Aunt Kate'!, details)

Kathleen Mcdowell 1907 Wandsworth. Death 1997 Wandsworth (born 10th July 1907)

John Thomas McDowell Marriage 1906 Medway, Janetta Blair.

John Thomas Death 1928 Wandsworth (45)
Janetta Death 1929 Wandsworth (42)

(John Thomas, Admin. to Janetta, widow, Kathleen, spinster)
(Janetta, Admin. to Kathleen, spinster)
(address for both as, 60, High Street, Tooting) (as 1911)


George Digby Crofton Fenwick Goddard Marriage 1936 Kensington, ( age 57 widower) Prep. School Headmaster. 23, Embankment Gardens, Chelsea. Father, George Stephen Goddard, Fleet Paymaster RN (Deceased) Patricia Eileen Muriel Whitby (23 Spinster) 59, Cambridge Mansions, Battersea. Father, William Arthur Whitby, Civil Engineer (Deceased) witnesses, W A Havard, R de Ferry Foster.

(Niece of EGF, who inherits Violin, their Daughter, Birth 1937, possibly living, the one who went on voyage, Singapore, intended Residence, Malaya. 1960, last address as, 44, Dafforne Road)

Chris :)

edits

(Electoral, 44, Dafforne, 1930, Smithsons, Mearings, Kathleen Mcdowell. 1927/8/9 Miss Mary Gwendoline Davies)


 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 26 Apr 2013 22:44

I am sorry going to be away for a couple of days back Sunday night.

What we need to know from the marriage cert is

How old Diane was ?????

What her occupation was???

Witnesses full names (if written in)

Herbert's Occupation????

And his home address from the cert.

Thanks


ps if someone could look at the electoral rolls for 1926/27/28/29 for Daffone Road and Kharoum road.

Pretty please.

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 26 Apr 2013 22:39

I have looked at Dafforne Road which as Chris says is near Springfield hospital..
Also Khartoum Road is very near St Georges Hospital..


Just funny that the 2 addresses that are known are both within walking distance of a hospital.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 26 Apr 2013 20:56

any possible chance if its known who attended Diane funeral or getting hold of any local write up?

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 26 Apr 2013 20:17

Thanks Chris. I have edited the Kathleen and Paricia bit into the Goddard-Fenwick story.

It may be better to post any findings on both Kathleen and Patricia on separate pages and then we can add and delete info as we go along.


I'm probably talking gobbledy-gook now as I have been on this for hours. Signing off for the night....................zzzzzzzzzzzzzz :-D