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Okay I am on the final run of the Springfield precis

but have scribbled notes on a couple of items .... that do not seem to have been answered/checked ---- so just posting

----on page c 24 --- 19/12/2009 EDIT ....

there is a mention of Eileen I McLeod Born 1906 -- a Nurse
coming back to UK from Canada ... 1929

AND
on FBG Page 43 ---- 9. 1. 2010 there is talk of ROYS in Canada

AND
of course Evelyn GF --- godmother ..
EDIT ................. see page 60
She visited Canada, returning Quebec-Plymouth 24.9.1927. ( JANSMITH
42 Loulser(?spelling hard to read) London SW 17 thought to be 8 BY CHRIS HO ) but think it should be Foulser, next road to Dafforne!


is there a connection .........................

Did our Evelyn ever know how/where her parents met

.EDIT .... NO CONNECION

Name: Eileen I McLeod
Gender: Female
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Birth Country: New Zealand
Date of Arrival: 28 Mar 1931. >>>>>>>
Vessel: Duchess of Atholl
Search Ship Database: View the 'Duchess of Atholl' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Greenock, Scotland
Roll: T-14857

Perhaps this is why she is not on the earlier
Electoral Rolls
"...... Representation of the People act in 1928 corrected this and from that time all females over the age of 21 were granted voting rights." and therefore name could be on the electoral register and on marriage cert she was only 23 in 1929

for Traciey -


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: Katherine McLeod
Year: 1926
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Wandsworth

residence - Grove Hospital, Tooting Grove
================================


she's one of many


and still there in 1927


London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: Katherine McLeod
Year: 1927
County or Borough: Wandsworth
Ward or Division/Constituency: Wandsworth


and still there in 1928 and 1929

(can't see her in 1930)

Thank you Ann......... :-)


I am waiting for Renes to come back with her Springfield Hospital collation but, meanwhile, I had a thought.

Working backwards.......we have Diane from her death back to working at Springfield. She must have lived somewhere whilst working at the hospital, so I undertook a search of electoral rolls in that area.

Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. More brick walls.

It's absolutely uncanny.....it's as though she appears from out of space to the Registry Office for her wedding.......sheeeeeeeesh.

:-(

Have made a start looking at the Army List for Robert MacLeod (Army List is a list of all serving officers, with rank and regiment, sometimes produced quarterly). Have just looked at Dec 1905, Jan 1906, Apr 1906, Jul 1906 and Oct 1906, when we might have expected him to be in the Army. No R Macleod in Seaforth Highlanders, although there are R Macleod's in other regiments.

Thanks jansmith, I'll have a look at that one.

1911 ?any good do you think for Katherine Mcleod

Name:
Katherine McLeod Age in 1911:27
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1884
Relation to Head:Servant
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Renfrew, Scotland
Civil parish:Hampstead
County/Island:London
Country:England
Herbert William Piper 64
Anna Lucy Piper 57
Gladys Maria Piper 28
Katherine McLeod 27
Mary McLeod 23 born abt 1888 Birth Place: Lew (image says Lewis Stornoway ) . Servant

The nurse link again cropping up on Emily Goddard Fenwick's 1911 census, a visitor who is a nurse. Has anyone came across a Katherine McLeod who worked at Grove Hospital and shows up from around 1921 to 1929 on the Electoral Rolls for Wandsworth, and from what I can make out the hospital was near another hospital called the Fountain Mental Hospital, I wonder if she links to the Patrick MacFarlane McLeod family I've been looking at, although still not found anything more out than what's been posted previously by Jooles.

Headaches all round I think Cynthia :-D

Thank you Ann and Choccy.........really grateful for your help.......that just leave the two men now..........sigh..... This family is both fascinating and frustrating.



Kathy - another brick wall then? Never mind.......but so many thanks for looking and keeping an eye on things from up them.


So, where was this car crash then? England? India?


I can feel a headache coming on....... :-)

1911

National Archive Reference: RG14PN135 RG78PN4 RD2 SD1 ED48 SN269
Reg. District: Kensington
Sub District: Kensington South
Parish: Kensington
Enum. District: 48
Address: 9 Old Pembroke Place Kensington London
County: London

>>>>>FENWICK, Emily Goddard Head Single F 34 1877 Manageress Jersey C Isles
PATTERSON, Hilda Visitor Single F 43 1868 Hospital Nurse Ci Wicklow Bray Ireland

Sorry people no good news to tell you .I looked at and got copies of all R M's in the whole of scotland and none looked to be him .

19 were single and the rest had occupations and living wives .No soldiers and no car crashes .

I got marriages for ross and cromarty 1905 and back and will have to check them out against census .

So do we think he died in England ?????

Kathy

Here's Christophine in 1911

Christophine Fanny Georgina Goddard Fenwick
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Wick, Warwick, England
Civil parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 7 Sibella Road, Clapham S W
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: SICK NURSE
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 2262
Household Members:
Name Age
James Cornwall Wright 85
Ida Sophia Wright 75
Ada Mary Wright 49
Maria Webb 43
Robert Edward Thomas Neal 77
Christophine Fanny Georgina Goddard Fenwick 40

Good morning all and thank you Kathy......looking forward to hearing from you.


I find it odd, from the marriage certificate, that Diane does not state an occupation - given that she had been working at Springfield Hospital until around the time of her marriage :::: ? :-S


Can anyone who is good at searching for census things, please help me out?

I am trying to round up the siblings of Evelyn Goddard-Fenwick in the 1911 but am stuck on a couple of them.


One of the problems is the name factor..........sometimes they are Goddard or Fenwick or Goddard-Fenwick.........arrgghh



I am missing:

1911

Christophine Fanny Goddard-Fenwick born 1870 Warwickshire - ?

William H. Willoughby Goddard-Fenwick born Jersey 1874 - should be in the Canadian census - Nova Scotia area, but can't see him.

Emily F. Goddard-Fenwick born Jersey 1877 ?

George Digby Goddard-Fenwick born Jersey c1880 - ?



I have these thanks!

Evelyn is in Wandsworth with 2 music teachers (one of whom is to be her future sister in law).

Gwendoline Goddard-Fenwick born 1880 - Sister of Charity, Wandsworth

Louisa C.C. born 1883 - Nun. Hyde Park.


Need a lie down now! :-D

Will check out all the deaths in Scotland for Robert McLeod /Macleod 1906 - 1929 tomorrow .

Will let you all know .

Hope it is not like 2 weeks ago computers all down due to a power failure in Edinburgh hence no research at local RO's

So team all fingers crossed

Kathy

DIANE'S MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE DETAILS


Date: 1st May 1929.

Place: Register Office, Wandsworth.

Bridegroom: Herbert Robert John ROY aged 21 - bachelor ( commercial traveller - soft goods).
Address: 76 Fircroft Road, Upper Tooting.
Father: Herbert Walter ROY (warehouseman)


Bride: Diane Leslie MACLEOD aged 23 - spinster (no occupation)
Address: 53 Khartoum Road, Tooting.
Father: Robert MACLEOD (deceased). Major 1st Seaforth Highlanders


Witnesses: E. M. Roy (Bridegroom's mother)
F.H. Pratt (friend of bridegroom)

Hello all.


Wisechild, page 36 on here gives you a good account bout the thoughts on that death. FBG sent for the d/c and will..........it states that Robert left £200 and a few belongings.


Would love to involve Bill Lawson in this search - but have you seen his prices???


Thanks Renes.......whenever it's convenient to you.


Thanks to you all........................... :-)


Meanwhile, I'll go back and trawl through the G-F connection....again!

Yes Susan.
That´s the one. Think Chirsty MacKinnon was Murdo´s mother, not Catherines.
In 1881 there was an Anne Macleod, mother, living with the household.
Catherine MacKinnon was a widow in 1917 according to the probate of Robert Macleod´s will. She could easily have had another couple of children with Murdo before he died.
Wondered if there was a "cuckoo" in the MacKinnon nest in 1911, or at least an isabella.
That would mean the old lady whose death we are looking for would have been Kate MacKinnon, not Kate Macleod
I´m really trying hard to make this one stick ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

Is this the census you refer to wisechild.(Appoligies if already posted)

1901 Scotland Census
about Catherine A Mckinnon Name: Catherine A Mckinnon
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Murdo Mckinnon
Mother's Name: Chirsty Mckinnon
Gender: Female
Where born: Harris, inverness-shire
Registration number: 88
Registration district: Stornoway
Civil parish: Stornoway
County: Ross and Cromarty
Address: 10 Holm
Occupation: Crofter's Wife
ED: 9
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_24
Household Members: Name Age
Murdo Mckinnon 32
Catherine A Mckinnon 30
Donald Mckinnon 6
Hennetta Mckinnon 4
Finlay Mckinnon 2
Angus Mckinnon 11mths
Chirsty Mckinnon 70

Regarding the 1917 will for Robert Macleod in Liverpool.
Catherine Macleod McKinnon had a brother called Robert Macleod. She married Murdo MacKinnon & among others they had a son called Donald by 1901.
Don´t have access to Scottish records & the names are pretty common, but perhaps someone could check it out, please & take a look at the 1911.
If it is "our" family, Robert would have been quite a bit older than I had assumed. Not impossible if he was a career soldier. One of my soldier ancestors married for the 1st time in his 40s.
Sorry I can´t take this any further.

Just to confirm I am working on the hospital collation Cynthia

and having a general dig about ........

Have family here at moment so waiting the return of my peace and quiet


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