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Quoy

Quoy Report 7 Sep 2011 07:02

Whilst looking for someone else I always keep an eye out for any Macleod's or Stornaway .
I thought I would throw this in as a possible new search route

Today is the 85th anniversary of the departure of the SS Metagama from Stornoway on 21st April 1923 with 260 islanders bound for Canada, an event that has become entrenched in local history.

searching through some of the available ships lists I found this maybe nothing

Jeanie Mcleod domestic Port Glasgow Renfrewshire bound for Canada on the Montrose 30/3/1923

Just found this by Donald Macleod who sailed on the Metagama from Stornaway 1923

http://www.c-e-n.org/emigration.htm

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 7 Sep 2011 07:52

That's interesting Quoy and definitely need checking out.


Sorry for the disappearance but life keeps taking over - as I'm sure you all understand.


Would love to have a day where we could sit and brainstorm.


Today is manic..........but will be back.........


Cx

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 7 Sep 2011 09:23

Canada, Ocean Arrivals (Form 30A), 1919-1924
about Jeanie McLeod
Name: Jeanie McLeod
Gender: Female
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birth Place: Pot Glasgow
Age: 20
Date of Arrival: Apr 1923
Port of Arrival: Saint John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: London, England
Ship Name: Montrose

(parents Mr & Mrs Andrew McLeod, 16, Glen Avenue, Port Glasgow, Scotland. passage paid by Salvation Army, intended place of work as domestic, The ? of Ontario, c/o S Army for Ont.)

Adding on Quoys find, saw above, but couldn't see Montrose arriving1923 in Canada Passenger Lists.

Chris :)

(edits lunchtime!) just checked Birth on SP, born 9th Dec. 1902, 16, Park Place, Port Glasgow, parents Andrew and Maggie (nee Mckee, Married 16th Sept. 1902, Port Glasgow) Fathers Occ. Rivetter.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 7 Sep 2011 21:41

Thanks Chris.....oh well, we must keep on hoping. It makes you wonder if Jean did go abroad though - she seems to disappear too!


I have received a reply from a very kind lady at Highland Council Archive centre......

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I have searched the Tarbat Old School Admission Register, 1919-1954 [CRC/5/3/63f] for Diane Leslie MacLeod. Taking into account the possibility of name variations, readmission and allowing for a year of birth later than 1905, I have searched admissions up to 1925. However, I have not been able to locate her in this volume. I have also checked the Parent/Guardian and address columns for information relating to Rev MacLeod and similarly found no relevant entry. This is the only admission register for this school so, unfortunately, I am not able to extend the search to include any earlier registers.

Although school log books do not usually contain references to individual pupils, I have also checked the Tarbat Old School log book [CRC/5/3/63b] covering the period of your enquiry, from January 1910 to the end of December 1917, but have not been able to find any reference to Diane Leslie MacLeod.

I have also undertaken a brief search of admission registers for Tain Public School [CRC/5/3/49h-j] and Tain Academy Admission Register [CRC/5/3/61f] but these searches have yielded no results.

Having checked the County of Ross and Cromarty Valuation Roll for the year 1910-1911 [CRC/4/2/23] I can confirm that a Rev. Donald Macleod is recorded as being the proprietor and occupant of the Manse of Tarbat in this year. Unfortunately, valuation rolls only detail the names of the proprietors and tenants/occupiers of properties and, unlike the census records, do not record entire households.

The next place I would suggest you check is the 1911 Census available via the ScotlandsPeople website, but I see from your email that you have already done this and presumably did not find Diane Leslie MacLeod listed among the people residing at the Manse in 1911.

Since you mention there is a possibility that Diane Leslie MacLeod was illegitimate, I thought to check for poor relief records. Unfortunately, there is relatively little in the way of records for the Parish of Tarbat. We hold a Parish Council Minute Book, 1907-1928, [CRC/6/17/1] in which applications for poor relief and the other business of the Parish Council was recorded. However, this volume is unlikely to contain reference to Diane Leslie MacLeod.

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She also went to mention about searching passenger lists and the NA re Diane's father. I have assured her that all that has been done - but still to no avail.

I had told her about the possibility of Diane not being the real name etc.etc. She seems to have done a thorough search on our behalf ....but we are still hitting out collective heads against that brick wall..... :-S

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 8 Sep 2011 00:42

What a helpful lady!


Been looking a long time...........................still trying to find the Goddard Fenwick connection. Have trawled the Times Digital Archive several times.

May have found a lead or may be a red herring!

In November 1930 Evelyn GF was at a memorial service for a Mrs Kennedy Fraser (Marjory). This lady was famous in her day for, amongst other things, collecting and publishing songs etc gathered from people in the Hebrides.

Also at this service was a Mr Kenneth Macleod. Needle in a haystack I thought!

However there was a Rev Dr Kenneth Macleod who collaborated musically with Mrs KF. This is mentioned in several obituaries for him in 1955 - he died at the age of 83. He was apparently responsible for the lyrics of Road To The Isles which describes a journey from Perth to Stornoway.

2 years after her death MKF's ashes were taken to Iona for burial. Among those expected to be at the ceremony were a Sir John Lorne Macleod and a Rev Kenneth Macleod.

I mention Sir John because I found him mentioned in another article with some other interesting Macleod names including Rev Kenneth Macleod and Major R C Macleod. Will cut and paste it if I can as it's in the Times Digital Archive. Sorry can't seem to cut and paste it so will come back to that task tomorrow.

If folks could chip in and help to try and find the extended family of Rev KM it may show a connection or disprove one.

Julie

Quoy

Quoy Report 8 Sep 2011 05:29

Ancestry wills and probate

Robert Macleod 14 Battery Park Stornoway died 7th March 1917 at Liverpool
confirmation to Catherine Macleod Mackinnon widow


Just found this

Welcome to the Associated Clan MacLeod Societies Genealogical Resources Center. Our purpose here is to provide the resources, information, and links you need to research your ties to this ancient Scottish highland clan. Hopefully, we have what you need. We will do all that we can to assist you in your research.

http://www.macleodgenealogy.org/

Tabitha

Tabitha Report 8 Sep 2011 05:59

1911 Census West Derby Infirmary Mill Road



Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

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MCLEOD, Robert Patient Married M 53 1858 Scotland Edinburgh VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22552 Reference:
RG14PN22552 RD455 SD8 ED39 SN9999

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
South Everton Enumeration District:
39 Parish:
Everton

Address:
Mill Road Everton Liverpool County:
Lancashire


May be no use at all - but loks like the one who died in Liverpool in 1917

Tabitha

Tabitha Report 8 Sep 2011 06:12

Used up a few more credits on the 1911


MCLEOD, James Alexander Head Married M 50 1861 Night Watchman Lpool Grain Storage And Transit Co Ltd At Bootle W Houses Stand Rd Alexander Dock Aldershot VIEW
MCLEOD, Katherine Wife Married F 36 1875 Lancs Manchester VIEW
MCLEOD, Elizabeth Daughter F 9 1902 Lancs Lpool VIEW
MCLEOD, Roy Francis Daughter M 2 1909 Lancs Lpool VIEW
MCLEOD, Doreen Winifred Daughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Lancs Lpool VIEW
MCLAUGHLIN, Joseph Vincent Brother Single M 19 1892 Barman Threllfalls Brewery Co Ltd Liverpool Lancs Lpool VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22536 Reference:
RG14PN22536 RG78PN1325 RD455 SD8 ED23 SN341

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
South Everton Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Everton

Address:
20 Spencer St Everton Liverpool County:
Lancashire


or

MCLEOD, James Robert Smith Head Married M 58 1853 Supervisor Of Customs And Excise Aylesbury Bucks VIEW
MCLEOD, Kate Wife Married
22 years F 48 1863 Leeds Yorkshire VIEW
MCLEOD, Kathleen Daughter Single F 21 1890 Northand Typist Chemical Insurance Trade Edinburgh Resident VIEW
MCLEOD, Harvey Son Single M 16 1895 Apprentice To Coln Trade Edinburgh Resident VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22438 Reference:
RG14PN22438 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED32 SN54

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Bootle Enumeration District:
32 Parish:
Bootle cum Linacre

Address:
40 Oxford Road Bootle County:
Lancashire

or

MACLEOD, Alexander Head Married
5 years M 33 1878 Dock Labourer Glamorgan Swansea VIEW
MACLEOD, Catherine Wife Married F 34 1877 Lancashire Blackburn VIEW
MACLEOD, William Son M 5 1906 At School Lancashire Clifton VIEW
MACLEOD, Alice Daughter F 1 1910 Lancashire Preston VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22434 Reference:
RG14PN22434 RG78PN1322 RD455 SD5 ED28 SN309

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
Bootle Enumeration District:
28 Parish:
Bootle cum Linacre

Address:
16 Burns Street Bootle County:
Lancashire

Quoy

Quoy Report 8 Sep 2011 07:08

1911 Census

HOUSEHOLD MACLEOD JOHN LESLIE M 1904 7 Kensington London

Tabitha

Tabitha Report 8 Sep 2011 13:44

Ah - looks interesting a John leslie

Well found

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Sep 2011 13:51

Galloping to keep up now! Thanks...........out of breath :-D


I guess the new MacLeods mentioned all need checking but, I am pretty sure that Fans investigated the Robert who died in Liverpool and sent for his death cert. It's way back on this thread somewhere but I will ask her to confirm.


That John Leslie MacLeod looks interesting because of the name Leslie in the middle???


Off to consult the oracle......... wish me luck.....she can't still be chopping runner beans can she.....??

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Sep 2011 14:07

Name:MACLEOD, John L
Registration District: HelpChelsea
County: London
Year of Registration: 1933
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Watson
Volume No: Help1A
Page No: Help913
Name:WATSON, Olive S
Registration District: Chelsea
County: London
Year of Registration: 1933
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Macleod
Volume No: 1A
Page No: 913

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Sep 2011 14:09

BMD Search result details
Civil Registration event: Death
Name:MACLEOD, John Leslie
Registration District: HelpCuckfield
County: Sussex
Year of Registration: 1969
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Date of Birth: 23 May 1903
Volume No: 5H
Page No: 504

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Sep 2011 14:13

Merchant Navy Seamen 1918-1941
Last name: MACLEOD
First names: John Leslie
Age:
Day of birth: 23
Month of birth: May
Year of birth: 1903
Place of birth: London
County/country of birth: London
Card type: CR10
Discharge number:
Identity certificate no.: 203438
Series: BT350
Date range: 1918-1921


There is a photo on this record If Evelyn would like to see if there is a family resemblence.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Sep 2011 14:51

Does not look like good lead though


1911 census - household transcription
Person: MACLEOD, Douglas Hamilton
Address: 70b Ladbroke Grove
MACLEOD, Charles Edward AlexanderHead Married 12 years M
43 1868 Surgeon Brindisi Italy
MACLEOD, Edith Ann Wife Married 12 years F 37 1874 Twickenham Middlesex
MACLEOD, Alexander Cameron Son
M 11 1900 Scholar Notting Hill London
MACLEOD, Douglas Hamilton Son M 9 1902 Scholar Notting Hill London
MACLEOD, John Leslie Son M 7 1904 Scholar Notting Hill London
MACLEOD, Muriel Edith Daughter F 2 1909 Notting Hill London
KING, Amy Gartried Domestic Nurse Single F 24 1887 Domestic Servant Colchester Essex
BROWN, Naomi Housemaid Single F 21 1890 Domestic Servant Lorklamington
SILVER, Louisa Domestic Cook Single F 32 1879 Domestic Servant Hammersmith London
VINCENT, Edward Jesse Butler Domestic Single F 23 1888 Domestic ServantEpsom Surrey

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Sep 2011 14:56

That was quick! Thanks LK. Another brickwall then :(


LadyKira

LadyKira Report 8 Sep 2011 15:03


1911 census - household transcription
Person: MACLEOD, Kenneth
Institution: Lord Nelson, SHIP: LORD NELSON, HOME FLEET, SEA LAT 55.35 N LONG 0.20 W
Military details: Lag Seaman
MACLEOD, Kenneth Married ? 36 1875 Stornoway Ross


Is this the afore mentioned Kenneth before he becomes a rev?

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 8 Sep 2011 16:21

Quoy.
Off to look at that link you give.Good find on John Leslie Macleod


Ancestry wills and probate

Robert Macleod 14 Battery Park Stornoway died 7th March 1917 at Liverpool
confirmation to Catherine Macleod Mackinnon widow.

I have this will and death cert...Not him....%100 CERTAIN..

Jooleh
That looks very interesting.

What have you so far on Kenneth and John ?
Just so work is not duplicated..

Im not good at expressing myself I know,sorry.

But I am sort of OK at searching census and Sp... :-P

LK...Nice work....But a shame it seems to go nowhere as well.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 8 Sep 2011 18:00

What do you mean 'OK at searching' ???? You're a genius at times woman!



Did I say that? :-S

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 8 Sep 2011 18:36

Just popping in briefly........ Haven't looked in census yet but googling Rev Kenneth Macleod + road to the isles gives snippets of info. Poss born isle of Eigg and father was a schoolteacher. That's all I have for now.

Julie