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I'm sure this has been posted at least once before .............. but let's get it close to the 1939 Register!

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Herbert Robert J Roy
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1908
Date of Registration: Dec 1977
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: Weymouth
Inferred County: Dorset
Volume: 23
Page: 0955

only a few posts before, in November, Cynthia had posted the 1939 info from Viv, and confirmed, when I queried, that Jan was a mistranscription of Jun for the birthdate ...

and Evelyn said at that time:
Dads birthdate is correct 12th March 1908.
The other three entries on that list would be Ian, myself and Rodney, Robert was born later.

I don't understand why we're chasing Herbert :-)

Scotland's people have released the Valuation Rolls for 1930. Free to search until 17th March

Has this Robert been looked at?

First name(s) ROBERT LOCKHART R
Last name MACLEOD
Marriage year 1896
Marriage place RANGOON
Country BURMA
Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name -
Page 175
Line number 46
Record source GRO Index Army Marriages (1881 to 1955)
Record set British nationals armed forces marriages 1796-2005

Them in 1939?
MacLeod Household
?67 Park Road , Brentford and Chiswick M.B., Middlesex, England
? Robert L R MacLeod 20 Sep 1863 Male Colonel Ram Retired Married 175 1
? Jessie M MacLeod 25 Jul 1872 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 175 2

***Ram image says RAMC (so that's royal army medical corps)

Ooops....only just spotted this...sorry!


It rings a bell to be honest but, Diane had her father as deceased prior to her marriage in 1929. Haven't looked at anything for ages but am still in touch with Evelyn. Maybe there are some new records we ought to be looking at....................?


Thanks for maintained interest...x

Thanks Cynthia for reply. I must have missed (or forgot) that he was possibly deceased by 1929

However, we do only have Diane's word that her father was deceased


How many of us have looked in vain for deaths before a wedding, only to find father was still alive?

Yes I am doing an online genealogy course and that is talking about finding records and checking them against another source where possible

And of course, Evelyn does state quite openly that her mother told many lies. :-(

Wonder if she had a sibling? Can only find a marriage for this one.!!

First name(s) CAROLINE L
Last name MACLEOD
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1931
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ CAROLINE L MACLEOD married
ARCHIBALD J SMITH
Spouse's last name SMITH
District PADDINGTON
possible in 1939
Archibald J Smith 07 Oct 1903 Male Carpenter & Joiner Married 244 1
? Caroline L Smith 04 Jun 1901 Female Unpaid Domestic Married 244

Jan, a Caroline L MacLeod was born in Scotland in 1901 (and 2 other Caroline MacLeods between 1899 and 1903) ... so that is likely the source of that Caroline I would imagine ... not unusual names :-)
and we don't know of Diane ever mentioning a sibling



Cynthia how is Evelyn doing (otherwise!) ?

Still looking! Have these records been looked at re possible school records
http://www.tasglann.org.uk/en/research-resources/source-lists/stornoway-source-list

My word....what a surprise to see this pop up again :-D

To be honest Jan, I really don't know without ploughing through the thread again. Probably worth a chance of looking though. I do sometimes wonder though, what name did Diane use as a child? Was she always known as Diane or as something else? Maybe we will never know.

Thanks for the reminder. Cx

Thanks for replying Cynthia., It's one of those posts that I keep thinking "one day records will be available that will tell us who she is!"

Looking at the names on the link, I found myself reminded of all the places we searched a few years ago. I thought of all the people who have literally spent hours and hours trying to fathom out this mystery. I even have a file of papers here at home on Diane Leslie McLeod :-D

I am try contacting the Stornaway Historical Society once more, just in case new records have been opened.

Evelyn remains quite well although she has had some health issues over the last couple of years. She is a lovely, lovely lady and it would be so wonderful to solve this mystery for her.

Cx

BOING! The thread that would not die returns.

(And Cynthia, now I can blame you for my confusion, see my emails, when I kept spelling Evelyn's mother's name MCLeod instead of MACLeod! -- your post a few before this, 17 Sep 2017 07:40.)

On the last day of last year, a couple of hours before the big holiday sale at Family Tree DNA ended, I bought Evelyn a DNA test -- the "family finder" or autosomal DNA test that can turn up cousins, theoretically as distant as 5th cousins.

(This is the same test as Ancestry, 23andMe and various others offer. I happen to be familiar with FTDNA and like its facilities better. And it was the big sale there.)

Now I find myself in the position of not knowing what to do! My DNA adventures to date have all involved male-line (YDNA) testing and matching.

I'm going to embark on figuring it out, and probably consult the Help forums at FTDNA. Evelyn does have a few matches with people who have the surname MacLeod in their trees, so I can try to work out who has whom in their trees, and possibly contact likely candidates.

Just an update for the assembled breathless helpers. :-)

If anybody out there is learnèd in the ways of autosomal DNA, give me a shout and I can bring you in on the effort.

Boing indeed! Ahem......you did spell the surname as MACleod yourself two years ago :-D

Really hoping that this brings up something interesting and conclusive for Evelyn. If it does, we will have to have a party :-D :-D

Dont forget to add the DNA file to Ancestry as well - it has loaded a whole heap of 5th cousins for me - Including one who keep promising he has a lead and disapears for months on end.

Is FTDNA the same as Ancestery by the way - is it worth me joining up with ETDNA and copy over my DNA file - I have an elusive father who moved about a lot having children with different young ladies and then moving on again. trying to track down more siblings 8 and counting so far.

We must be able to find Evelyn's mother somewhere.

Tabitha

You can transfer your Ancestry "Raw Data" to FTDNA free and view the matche, but to use their Chromosome Browser there is a small fee

You can also transfer your Ancestry Raw Data to My Heritage free plus GEDmatch.

Maximum coverage :-)

It might have made more sense to do it at Ancestry and upload at FTDNA, but it was Christmas and I'd been giving the Visa a workout already, and FTDNA's sale made it the economical choice. ;-) (about half the Ancestry price)

It used to be possible to upload FTDNA results to Ancestry -- I did it with YDNA results a few years ago when Ancestry was still doing YDNA testing -- but I don't think that's an Ancestry feature now. I will look into other places where the results can be uploaded for potential matching.

I will do GEDmatch though.

The night I first received Evelyn's results, I just put together some preliminary tables with the matches to the name MacLeod in their trees (and also McLeod) (and also those with Evelyn's father's surname), to segregate them from the mass of potential matches and from each other, just for starters. That kind of wore me out and I needed food.

I think I'll start by emailing the MacLeod potential matches with a bit of info about Evelyn's mum's story of her birth, and see whether the Robert MacLeod father in India and/or the Stornoway connection means anything to them.