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From memory. I think the Nicholson institute has been investigated, although in the name of Diane Leslie Macleod of course

Yes it was Annie.....I am just debating what to do. :-D

Apologies, if I am repeating, but I have managed to put the 1st Battallion Seaforth highlanders in India in 1911 by searching Seaforth highlanders durbar coronation. Not sure where this gets us, but they were there during Diane's early years

Apologies, if I am repeating, but I have managed to put the 1st Battallion Seaforth highlanders in India in 1911 by searching Seaforth highlanders durbar coronation. Not sure where this gets us, but they were there during Diane's early years

Hello Diane and welcome back.

I honestly can't remember but someone else may. Any takers on this? :-)

Oh and I did think of the possibility of Diane's father being a Sudebar Major, I believe it was an honorary title for British servicemen when working with Indian soldiers

I've looked at the Delhi Durbar ages ago - nothing found, as nothing has ever been found for an officer of that name in Seaforth Highlanders

Thank you Annie - I had a feeling you would have the answer.... :-D

Hello folks - here we go again.

Our friend Viv (who no longer subscribes on here) has asked me to post the following info to see what people think......you may like to see the conversation from on FB :-D

Viv: 1939 register...Gotta get credits now.
Roy Household (5 People)
5 Dorset Place , Weymouth and Melcombe Regis M.B., Dorset, England

Diane L Roy 04 Jan 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 227 2
Herbert R J Roy 12 Mar 1908 Male Fitters Labourer The White Head Torpedo Company Limited Married 227 1
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Viv: So THAT b****y woman says she was born 4th of January 1906 Evelyn Sarre!!!!!!


Evelyn: She always said her birthday was in June.

Viv: Is your dads DOB right Ev??

Irene: What date did we search on Viv ....

Viv: I tried just about everything from 1900 to 1910.!!!

Viv: Evelyn said she thought that womans birthday was in June!

Irene: Wonder if all the secrecy was because she was 2 years older than Roy .......

very frowned upon then ...


Viv: Only ones coming up for India on FMP....Not her I dont think ,but first one is right month and year and spelling to what she says....

First name(s)First name(s) Margaret
Last name Macleod
Baptism year 1906
Birth year 1906
Place Bombay, Malabar Hill,All Saints
Presidency Bombay
Mother's first name(s) Anna
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) Norman Cranstoun
Father's last name Macleod
Baptism date 18 Feb 1906
Birth date 23 Jan 1906

First name(s) Gloria Esme
Last name McLeod
Baptism year 1906
Birth year 1906
Place Dharmsala
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Esme Langharne
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) Torquil John
Father's last name McLeod
Baptism date 3 Apr 1906
Birth date 26 Feb 1906

First name(s) Phyllis Chester
Last name McLeod
Baptism year 1906
Birth year 1906
Place Allahabad,Holy Trinity
Presidency Bengal
Mother's first name(s) Alice May
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) Dugald Cameron
Father's last name McLeod


Viv: Only one in Stornoway ....With correct spelling and asking for females with letter D as first initial......Edit....And it is not her.


1 1906 MACLEOD DOLINA F KILDONAN /SUTHERLAND 052/00 0024
2 1906 MACLEOD DONALDINA F STORNOWAY /ROSS AND CROMARTY 088/00 0040
(5 Credits) Order<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
3 1906 MCLEOD ANNIE DOUGLAS M F ST ANDREW (DUNDEE) DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS 282/04 1408
4 1906 MCLEOD CATHERINE DOLIN F PARTICK GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 646/03 2213
5 1906 MCLEOD DOLINA F STOER /SUTHERLAND 044/02 0018
6 1906 MCLEOD ELIZABETH DICK F GOVAN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 646/02 2233
7 1906 MCLEOD MARION DUNCANSO F CALTON (GLASGOW) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/04 0917

Viv: Hmmmm...One to check on 1911..

(She then pastes a copy of a birth cert which I will have to copy)

Dolina MacLeod - Illegitimate - 28th July 1906 - Mother Dolina MacLeod, Crofter's daughter. Present at birth - Grandmother Mary MacLeod.

Evelyn: Dads birthdate is correct 12th March 1908.
The other three entries on that list would be Ian, myself and Rodney, Robert was born later.



So there we are folks. As you can see, our Viv has lost none of her charm!!
:-D :-D

is it possible that

04 Jan 1906

is a misreading/mistranscription of Jun?

I'm not sure whether Viv is seeing an original doc or a transcription

(looks in, acknowledges latest from the 'FBG' one, lol)

Thanks Cynthia, for update.

Chris :)

SylviaInCanada has passed your query on to Viv Joonie. Just waiting for her to turn up out of her belfry! :-D

Cynthia - the rumors were wrong - you are still on GR

Why are you not on THE thread anymore - i am left wondering around on my own :-(

Does this mean Diane has told the truth about her Age for once - but not her name

There's a Will for a Sir Norman Cranstoun Macleod, knight, who died in Surrey in 1945, aged 78. Probate granted to Margaret Macleod, spinster. This might be the Margaret mentioned above, bapt Feb 1906

Thanks Ann....I will pass that info onto Viv. :-D


Tabitha.....I never left. Have been here since 2003 but spend much more time elsewhere......wink wink. Still do my messaging each day on here though. :-D

When the old bat finally emerged she posted the original of the date and yes, it does look like JUN. So Evelyn was right.

Silly thought, but if her birthday was very close to Christmas, maybe she celebrated in in June so that she didn´t miss out on celebrations.
Clutching at straws here.

Aha. Glad I asked! Never trust a transcription. :-)

'my' Emerentiana Leslie's birthday was two days off ...


23 March EDIT -

the baptism image is available at findmypast and gives Emerentiana Monica Leslie's baptism date as 2 June 1906 'said to be born' 23 May 1906
John Francis Leslie's occupation as Dist Cass fund [?] Supervisor

From 1939 Register

Diane L Roy 04 Jan 1906 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Birth date transcribed wrong it's June.

Herbert R J Roy 12 Mar 1908 Fitters Labourer The White Head Torpedo Company Limited
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At both sides against Diane's name in red pen see page 6 Book ???. After book on the left side the section area is covered by a mark and unreadable and on the right the page is cut off straight after book.

This is the other entry transcription

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Diane L Roy 04 Jun 1906 Udd
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.


2 other closed records on original copy. Both entries for 5 Dorset Place. Both say married and unpaid domestic duties. No idea why there was a the notation and a new entry for Diane but others on that page appear to be reentries, all woman married with children and no husbands named. Same reference number in both entries.

Herbert didn't die until the 1970s and I can't find a new address on the 1939 Register for him as he has only 1 entry. Wonder if it's to do with the children as Diane's entries are identical.

Nothing is simple with Diane but 4th June 1906 seems to be her birth.

I now have free access to 1939 Register if anything else is wanted for here. :-)

Hello Pat and thank you.

It seems as though Herbert joined the Army so maybe that is why there is no other address for him. Also, perhaps the women and children were evacuees? Good of you to offer your help - very grateful. :-)