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was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 19 Oct 2013 08:40

Apparently the India Office records will be online soon - I assume BMD's. Perhaps we can find Diane under a different name, or a sibling or her father - well, anything!

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 19 Oct 2013 17:24

Sorry folks....it's been a busy time for me. Thank you for your thoughts Diane...it's really interesting to have your insights .

Traciey, I would like to see the medal card please - thanks.


Anne.......you're so right! Anything....absolutely anything...would be wonderful!


Hope you are all well........ <3

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 20 Oct 2013 12:33

I'm pretty sure somewhere in this thread was mention of a acting major, Roderick Macleod ?? Anyway, doing a general search, I happened across the attached where somebody was looking for a Robert Macleod who appears to have been said Roderick - was he ruled out previously?

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=104834

Vanessa

Vanessa Report 20 Oct 2013 12:37

Has anybody been to national archives and viewed this record??

Reference:WO 339/36766 Description:
Captain Robert McLEOD.

Seaforth Highlanders (Ross-Shire Buffs, The Duke of Albany's).

Date: 1915-1919; 1926 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Former references: in its original department: 103149 Legal status: Public Record Language: English

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 20 Oct 2013 15:14

Hi Vanessa, there have been so many Robert MacLeods mentioned that I am not sure which is which.

Maybe one of the others on here can remember???


Cx :-)

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 20 Oct 2013 19:07

Vanessa

I think I've looked at that record, but, if so, it was YEARS ago. I could have another look.

Some of the Officers files on the National Archives Catalogue have been newly indexed, giving more detail, like the Robert MacLeod one, which is helpful, although not all are done yet.

If I did look at it, all the index would have said would have been R Mcleod!

Traciey

Traciey Report 21 Oct 2013 21:27

Vanessa I read about that too there is lots of info on Roderick MacLeod but there was also a Robert MacLeod who received the Military Cross and Distinguished Service Order and he served in the 8th Seaforth Highlanders but there does not seem to be a service record for him on Ancestry. Maybe someone with a good knowledge of searching both old English & Scottish Newspapers during the war might be able to find out about why this soldier received his DSO & MC.

Cynthia I have sent you the medal card, its actually interesting to see a good few Robert McLeod's & a Robert MacLeod of other ranks, I wouldn't be so sure of the officer rank at all, there was lots of acting corporal, acting sergeant and acting captain during both wars, I was told my great uncle was a sergeant but he wasn't he was acting for a short period of time when the soldiers were separated during gunfire and spent weeks apart.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 21 Oct 2013 23:28

Traciey

As the Robert Macleod you mention (8th Bn) was an officer, his records wouldn't be on Ancestry - they don't include officers.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 22 Oct 2013 16:39

There are 12 WW1 Officers files at the National Archives for R Macleod/McLeod. Will look at them (gradually - it might take a while!)

Diane

Diane Report 22 Oct 2013 17:07

If you go to www.1914-1918.net/15div.htm there is a dedication to Robert MacLeod who was commissioned into the 8th Seaforth, it goes on to say he was a trench mortar officer.

The 8th Seaforth was a K2 regiment formed of mostly volunteers in 1914, so wherever Robert was before then remains a mystery.

I came across an article regarding the British artillery in the beginning of WWI and it gave one of the reasons for it being so poor as the sergeants who had been promoted had to accomplish their officer and gunnery training in 8 months. So it is possible that Robert was a sergeant prior to the war.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 23 Oct 2013 13:54

Hi everyone - I've been a bit sidetracked with my OH having to have an eye op this week. :-(


Thanks for all the comments. Thanks for the medal cards Tracie - the enduring problem is, of course, WHICH Robert MacLeod is the one we are looking for? There are so many of them.





was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 23 Oct 2013 17:05

Have looked at 3 WW1 Officers files today at Kew -
WO339/36766 Robert Macleod, 8th Seaforths, born 24/10/1890, single (a bit young to be Diane's father). Schoolmaster. Served 27/2/15-20/2/19 2 different addresses - Edderton House, Edderton, Ross shire and View Cottage Edderton, Ross-shire.

WO374/45065 Lt Robert McLeod, RGA. Born 29/8/1886, married. Previously Serg, no 17597. Enlisted 1903. Was in Hong Kong from Oct 1907 - date illegible. Address in Sept 1919 27 Dundee Terrace, Edinburgh. Previous address 171 Dalry (?) Rd, Edinburgh. Discharged 1919.

WO374/45068 Robert Watson McLeod. Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders, but had served in RGA (T) for 4 years sometime 1915 or before. Born Anstruther, Fife. Aged 28 in 1916. Married Margaret Jane Walker 9/9/14. 1 child John Walker McLeod, born Glasgow 9/6/15. Address in Nov 1915 63 Calder St, Crosshill, Glasgow.

Traciey

Traciey Report 24 Oct 2013 12:45

Hi Ann, yes you are correct about officers records but was hoping to find anything just something maybe prior to the time served before becoming an officer, so am I right in assuming that when a soldier became an officer those previous ranks and information is kept and contained in the officers file?

Well done on searching through the three officers above, so we can rule these three out as there is no Stornoway connection and no female child. The Robert from 8th Seaforth Highs was he the same chap who was awarded the MC?

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 24 Oct 2013 15:31

Yes, any previous service SHOULD be in the Officers file but as these files have been heavily weeded, that's not necessarily the case.

There's also the fact that if he served after 1921 his record would still be with the MOD.

Don't know whether the 8th Bn man was the same as the man awarded the MC. I have more files to look at, though.

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 26 Oct 2013 18:29

Looked at 2 more R Macleod/Mcleod WW1 Officers files today

WO374/45067 Roderick Paterson Macleod,b Knockbain(?), nr Dingwall, Ross-shire 25/12/1877, d 14/12/1918, 2 Lt,Royal Engineers. Wife Elizabeth Jane, nee Rusbridge. Married 1909, Preston, Sussex. No children mentioned. Lived Brighton.

WO374/45066 Robert Duncan Macleod, b 27/6/1885, Greenock. 2nd Lt, Highland Light Infantry, previously Lance Corporal, no 266807. Mother Jessie. Occupation Librarian. Single in 1916. Lived 50 Thistle St, Dunfermline.

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 28 Oct 2013 15:38

Thanks for ploughing through them Annie...... <3

was plain ann now annielaurie

was plain ann now annielaurie Report 30 Oct 2013 17:05

2 more R Macleod/Mcleod WW1 Officer files looked at today

WO339/124541 Robert Leighton McLeod.Previously Pte 911823, late British Columbia Regimental Depot. Commissioned RFC 21/2/18. Born Pullman, Washington, USA, 28/1/1899. Father Rev A.M (?) Mcleod, lived Chilliwack, British Columbia.

WO339/34127 Capt Robert Mitchell McLeod MC. Army Cyclist Corps. Served 12/7/15-29/1/19. Born 11/12/1888, Glasgow. Single in Jun 1915. Address in Jun 1915 4 Belgrave St, Glasgow. Occupation Student and Teacher. Address in 1931 Clarebrand, Castle Douglas, Kircudbrightshire.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2013 04:36

who's ticked this thread as problem solved????????????????????????

wisechild

wisechild Report 31 Oct 2013 07:00

It´s been like that for several months Sylvia & the system won´t allow it to be unticked, so we just have to ignore it.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 31 Oct 2013 07:06

ah!

I guess I haven't looked at this thread on the Board ............... I usually only go to My Threads!