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If this is his death, it lends more weight to that theory because his middle initial is D.

Deaths Mar 1935
Turpin Daniel D 85 Stoke Newington 1b 360

Rose

it looks like your on the right track then as i have seen that before

well, you had to be able to work iron/copper/metal for either job
well done rose ,i hate not winning through
but im too tired to be much use now
will check back in the morning and see what you have

viv

well done rose!!
i would send for that if it was me to see who the informant was.
he sure is a tricky devil
i think you are about 90% on the leaving first wife in the lurch
but maybe he kept 2 families?
seen that too
have to go im rambling
viv

Viv,

Perhaps Michelle will know a bit more tomorrow when she comes back. If she can purchase the 1911 image that would help.

The only Daniel born Wolsingham is that one. His first wife was Elizabeth too.

There was someone I was helping the other day. The husband had a surname like Handcock but was Cox once he left his first wife. Like Michelle, we couldn't find him on earlier censuses but his place of birth helped us find him in the end.

Rose

Daniel D Wilson occupations are white smith, gas fitter and engine fitter on previous census so general house smith is in the same ball park.

Michelle, let me know if you need me to post him in the various censuses.

Rose

Daniel Donaldson Turpin was my grandfather, my father was Albert aged 2 listed on the 1901 census. Daniel was a house painter- on his death certificate in 1935 says he was a journeyman house painter and decorator'. he had 2 more daughters after Albert-- Esther and Elsie. I have not found anything about him before 1901 census, so any information would be great.
Nancy

nancy
rose and i believe this to be the same person
but with a change of surname due to leaving a wife and children behind!

and hes shaved off a couple of years
Births Mar 1845
WILSON Daniel Donaldson Weardale 24 345

if you read the thread through again then you may see roses reasoning for this
and i agree with her
it wont be the first or last time that this sort of thing happens
my own g grandad changed his first name and the spelling of his surname ,

Nancy,

It's great that you were able to confirm his middle name was Donaldson. All evidence now points to him being Wilson before the 1901 census.

He was actually 95 when he died and not 85.

Rose

Here he is in 1891 with his first wife:


1891 England Census
Name: Daniel Donaldson Welson
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolsingham, Durham, England
Civil Parish: St James Westminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St James Westminster St Thomas and St John the Baptist
Town: St James Westminster
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Westminster
Sub registration district: St James Westminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Donaldson Welson 46
Elizth Welson 44 St Martin in The Fields, Middlesex

Rose

1881 Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Daniel D. WILSON Head M Male 36 Wolsingham, Durham, England Gas Fitter
Elizabeth WILSON Wife M Female 34 St Martin In The Fields, Middlesex, England Dressmaker
Elizabeth A. WILSON Daur Female 13 St Martin In The Fields, Middlesex, England Scholar

Source Information:
Dwelling 21 Cecil Court
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341071
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0328 / 33
Page Number 10

Rose

1871 England Census
Name: Daniel D Wilson
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wolsingham, Durham, England
Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Strand
Sub registration district: Long Acre
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 179
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel D Wilson 26
Elizabeth Wilson 24
Elizabeth A Wilson 3

Rose

1861 England Census
Name: Daniel D Wilson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Isabella
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsingham, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Westminster St Martin in The Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: St Martin In The Fields
Sub registration district: Long Acre
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wilson 44
Isabella Wilson 47
John Wilson 20
William J Wilson 18
Daniel D Wilson 16
Isabella Wilson 13
Richard Wilson 12
Anne E Wilson 6

Rose

omg i need 10 brains to work that out hahaha so why did he take the name turpin thats wierd
mind you ive seen and come across things that totaly make u loose the plot


like armstrongs in my tree they use armstrong then futher up its spelt armstronge and then they drop the e again

so william danial donalson is him b4 he bevame daniel turpin

makes you wounder what this man was on run from omg hahah this is so complicated this family of mine ,,,, minde u familys dont make things easy for us

His first daughter Elizabeth married Arthur Stoneham if you're interested.

Rose

well rose
if any of his first families descendants try doing their tree they will be in for a shock as well by the looks of it
no death cert under wilson
and prob a bigamist to boot if that marriage in st pancras is him.
well done again from me rose
brilliant detective work
and i am convinced they are the same people now we have the donaldson name

rose and viv just pick me up of the floor please omg that means nancys father albert is my great grans brother which makes him my great great uncle

yes michelle ,so wave to your ""cousin"" nancy

and rose seems to have helped two birds with one stone
you and nancy

I saw Nancy had Daniel Turpin in her tree so I emailed her to see if she knew his middle name and sent her a link to this thread.

Rose

thank you so much for your help viv and rose no wounder i couldnt find any thing ... got same prob with another member of me family asell so know to try an look under diff names

he wwas called frank bailey born 1901 and married mary wilson owens on the marrig cretif it says his father is john bailey ... how and ware can i get 1911 cens from ??