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so are the army records and the Walter marrying Esther suppose to be the same person?

1891
Name: Nellie L Thatcher (L SHOULD BE S)
Age: 6/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William T
Mother's Name: Eliza J
Gender: Female
Where born: Peckham, London, England


Household Members:
Name Age
William T Thatcher 30
Eliza J Thatcher 32
William J Thatcher 2
Nellie L Thatcher 6/12
William Arnold 14
Nellie Arnold 4

Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Peckham
County/Island: London
Country: England

Going back to the beginning of the thread, this is the marriage which Kelly has as they were listed as parents on her grandfather's birth cert in 1915, Thomas H King.

"Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%)

King Walter Waller Camberwell 1d 1711
Waller Esther E King Camberwell 1d 1711

4th august 1912, walter king 19 yrs greengroser father thomas king (dec)

esther elizabeth waller 20 yrs father william waller, coal porter"

The age is a few years out compared to the army details.

She then said Esther died 1919 and he remarried.

Deaths Dec 1919 (95%)

King Esther E 28 Camberwell 1d 854

Marriages Mar 1920 (>99%)
King Walter E Faulkner Camberwell 1d 1268

Without reading back through all the thread, do you have the 2nd marriage cert to check his age?

Christine

wife's birth

ame: Nelly Sophia Thatcher
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Camberwell
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 728

any good!!!!!!!!!!
Name: Walter Augustus King
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bethnal Green
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 198


just found baptism
Name: Walter Augustus King
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 2 Apr 1890
Father's Name: Joseph King
Mother's Name: Emma King
Parish: St Andrew, Bethnal Green
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

rriages Dec 1911 (as army records show)
Atkins Linda F Camberwell 1d 1686
King Walter A Camberwell 1d 1686*****
Palmer Percival F Camberwell 1d 1686
Thatcher Nelly S Camberwell 1d 1686*****

The docs on Ancestry which he signed include a second initial - 'A'

*what a find*

Ancestry shows the address as Parkstone Road

1911 census may be your best bet, as it was his address when he married Nellie Sophia in 1911

23 years 7months before 5/3/1914 would be Aug/Sept 1890

Name: Walter King
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Croydon
County: Greater London, Kent, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 270
_______________________________________________

Name: Walter King
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a
Page: 244
__________________________________________________

Name: Walter King
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Rochford
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 437

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PLEASE PLEASE NEW EYES !!!

I have now found this form, my beloved uncle Harry died 16th march 2010
after a short illness.
when we was sorting out his papers i came accross this

ARMY FORM FOR WALTER KING

ARMY FOR B 2505 B 203 5TH MARCH 1914

Signature of recruit WALTER KING

(1703) W 6749-966 250 10/14 J & W LD

SHORT SERVICE (FOR DURATION OF WAR)

ALLESTRATION OF

NO 4052 WALTER KING CORPS ARMY SERVICES

WALTER KING, 7, LARKSTONE RD, RYE LANE, PECKHAM, LONDON.

AGED 23 YRS 7 MONTHS

i also found alot more of his Army records on Ancestry,

I couldnt belive my eyes this is my walters army record, the age he gives would make him born 1891 and not 1893

any help would be so appreciated

Kelly

fingers crossed!!!!!!!!!!!

My Goodness can this be ha ????????????????

my walter king, i have looked at the parish records and found

WALTER HENRY KING, 1889 sept.

Father THOMAS KING, Mother MARY A KING, In HACKNEY

my uncle can remember that pops birthday was in september. so i
am going to see if i can now get a gro number to get a certificate,

kelly

Hi just letting all you kind people know that the WILL i sent for had returned no trace under walter king
so i now think its time to put the KING family to bed, i am going to london at some time to see where ESTHER was buried and will look at the Parish Records, but just have no hope of finding him

my sincere thanks for all of your kind help over the months,

my regards

kelly x

hi just phoned and have to send them £5.00 and they will do a search for me, so i am going to get that in the post tonight,

thanks so much again

kelly x

hey jan thanks so much for that,
i never give it a thought, he had a smallholding in kent, and had pigs there. and i know he had quite a bit of money, as when he died lydia gave her son fred £4,000 to buy a place just round the corner in downe kent, it had 4 acres.
so i would have thought he must have left a will,

how cleaver are you, thank you so very much, i will of course let you know
how i get on i am going to give them a ring now
thanks again, at last something to smile about ha

kelly x

have you tried to look for a will might be worth a trip if you are going into London

**"They are held by the Principle Probate Registry on High Holborn, London, and can be searched Monday to Friday from 10 a.m. to 4.30 p.m. There are registers, or calendars, as they are known, for each year, and they list all wills proved, the value of the estate and who the executors were. You will need to quote a reference number should you wish to order a copy of a will, which will set you back £5."**


They are available at the Principal Registry of the Family Division, First Avenue House, 42-49 High Holborn, London WC1V 6NP. Tel: 020 7947 6980, web site www.courtservice.gov.uk/cms/wills.htm.
I have been there not far from Holborn underground.May need to search upto a few years after death date
As it says cost £5 and can get them when you are there.

hi yes thomas and mary do show in 1901 census, thanks jan, i am unable to find them either, ho dear the dreded king family ha x

hey christine nice to hear from you, and yes i am really starting to think
that is true,
my uncle who is 72 and was 16 to the day when walter died said he didnt have any brothers and sisters,

i can only go and try, but also i want to know where esther was buried
i think it would be christ church camberwell, so i hope i can find this
i will be going to kent next week so will go there to
wish me luck
regards
kelly x

can anyone find Thomas and Mary in other census years?