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alviegal
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16 Feb 2009 22:46 |
Hi Jane. This Malcolm must be the brother of the original John b 1850 that we started looking for. They have the same parents but I can find no census records for him at all. And yes, he does appear to have married twice , both times to ladies born in Scotland.
I'm afraid I must disappear now...it's getting late over here but will see tomorrow if you other ladies have found anothing else. Nighty night!
Liz
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GI Jane
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16 Feb 2009 22:36 |
Ladies Do I read this right that Malcolm had 2 wives and that both were Scottish but they married in Canada - please correct me if I am wrong. J
Here is more info I have Malcolm Mcfiggins 1778-1856 married Elizabeth Moodie 1777-1852 They have 8 children all born in Scotland Elizabeth 1802-1866 Janet 1803-1869 Adam 1805-1869 John 1809 Christina 1811 Alison 1813-1878 Margaret 1816-1901 Malcolm 1821
As you can see Malcolm ties in nicely but John's DOB is way out There must be another explanation for this- maybe another leg of the family-cousin?? Although your info did say there was a John - could it have been an Adam John born 1805 - just grasping at straws now and making it up but things do get mistranscribed don't j
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alviegal
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16 Feb 2009 22:27 |
Here's another one for Malcolm. He's now a widower.
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Malcolm McFiggins Name: Malcolm McFiggins Birth Place: Scotland Age: 66 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Father Name: Malcohm McFiggins Mother Name: Elizabeth Moody Spouse Name: Catharine Thompson Spouse's Age: 55 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Spouse Birth Place: Scotland Spouse Father Name: George Kennedy Spouse Mother Name: Mary Morrison Marriage Date: 24 Oct 1889 Marriage Place: Northumberland Marriage County: Northumberland Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_65
and his death. He's a gentleman who died of heart failure 5 days.
Ontario, Canada Deaths, 1869-1934 about Malcolm McFiggins Name: Malcolm McFiggins Death Date: 16 Jan 1898 Death Location: Northumberland and Durham Gender: Male Estimated Birth Year: abt 1823 Birth Location: Scotland
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Lisa J in California
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16 Feb 2009 22:24 |
I'm popping in and out (trying to get some chores done before hubby comes home)...
what do you know for sure
and what have others told you.
We can start looking at the things you are positive about.
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Feb 2009 22:23 |
oops
I hadn't seent hat Lisa had already found this.
I was looking to see if I could find them on the 1880 Census on familysearch, and didn't return here before going onto ancestry!
There was incidentally nothing for John McFiggins (soundex on) on the 1880 USA, nor in Canada or the UK
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alviegal
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16 Feb 2009 22:22 |
Have you seen this before? I know it's not exactly what you're looking for but....
Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Malcolm McFiggin Name: Malcolm McFiggin Birth Place: Fife Scotland Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1824 Father Name: Malcolm McFiggin Mother Name: Elizth Moodie Spouse Name: Mary Ann Skinner Spouse's Age: 36 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838 Spouse Birth Place: Aberdeenshire Scotland Spouse Father Name: James Skinner Spouse Mother Name: Isabella Kennedy Marriage Date: 14 Jan 1874 Marriage Place: Northumberland and Durham Marriage County: Northumberland and Durham Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_15 View original imag
He was a plasterer living in Colbourne?
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GI Jane
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16 Feb 2009 22:20 |
Hi Ladies, Let's put our heads together on this one - the said John born 1889 can't really be confirmed as being Malcolm and Elizabeth' son as I see it. They were born, lived and died in Scotland and the info given said John was born in Soctland or Canada and that he immigrated in 1860. I am really confused - surely there must be another John somewhere - it doesn't all tie up!! Jane
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SylviaInCanada
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16 Feb 2009 22:20 |
This is on ancestry, public famiyl trees
Could it add to the mix?????
: (Name Unknown) Bristol Family Tree Public Member Tree 1 attached record, 1 source
John D McFiggins Birth: 9/2/1889 (9 Feb 1889) - Canada Death: 1/1972 (Jan 1972) Spouse: Elizabeth M Teeter F: (Name Unknown) M: Charlotte
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Lisa J in California
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16 Feb 2009 22:16 |
I have to step away for a bit. I will return soon. Sorry.
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Lisa J in California
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16 Feb 2009 22:12 |
There are a couple of people on Ancestry who have McFiggins: Name: Donald McFiggins Birth: 1877 - Canada Cannot access this record
Bristol Family Tree Public Member Tree
1 attached record, 1 source Preview Name: John D McFiggins Birth: 9/2/1889 (9 Feb 1889) - Canada Death: 1/1972 (Jan 1972)
John D McFiggins Elizabeth M Teeter unknown Charlotte Name: John D McFiggins Birth: 9/2/1889 (9 Feb 1889) - Canada Death: 1/1972 (Jan 1972) Parents: Charlotte Spouse: Elizabeth M Teeter They don't have any further information about John's parents.
Whew, glad you're still here, Alviegal. I had a misunderstanding with a friend on the internet when I first bought my computer. Ever since, I'm paranoid that I might say the wrong thing. Hence, all of the :) in my posts. Besides, you're a great help living in Scotland. :)))
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alviegal
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16 Feb 2009 22:11 |
Still here Lisa, you haven't scared me off. I'm in Scotland so I may be able to find something out on this side.
Liz
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alviegal
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16 Feb 2009 22:09 |
This is the marriage of your two Scottish people I know you must have this but it just shows the difference in spelling of the surname.
ELIZABETH MOODIE Pedigree Female Family Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MALCOM MACFEGGAN Family Marriage: 19 DEC 1800 Kinghorn, Fife, Scotland
ELIS. MOODIE Pedigree Female Family Event(s): Birth: Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: MALCOLM MCFIGAN Family Marriage: 06 DEC 1800 Auchterderran, Fife, Scotland
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Lisa J in California
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16 Feb 2009 22:07 |
Before I lose this:
1930 United States Federal Census Name: Cheulatte McFiggins Home in 1930: Rochester, Monroe, New York Age: 74 Birth Year: abt 1856 Birthplace: Canada Relation to Head of House: Head Age at first marriage: 25 Cheulatte McFiggins 74 Fred McFiggins 59, Nephew, Single, Factory Worker, Stove Factory
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Lisa J in California
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16 Feb 2009 22:05 |
We can keep looking around, but until we can find a connection, I'm not too sure this is the correct family.
Did someone say John married someone named Charlotte in 1885? Or, did you get that from the census record?
If you were told they married, then this could very well be the correct family.
Before I continue with American information, let me see if I can find John in Canada.
I hope I didn't scare Alviegal off. Sometimes, three heads are better than two. :( (Actually, most times, if I'm involved. ) :)
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GI Jane
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16 Feb 2009 22:03 |
Thank you both so much for searching on my behalf - just need to clear up when and where John emigrated . The info you have given suggests that John was born in Canada but that doesn't tie up - so I have a bit more sorting to do!! Jane
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alviegal
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16 Feb 2009 21:57 |
1930 United States Federal Census about Fred McFiggins Name: Fred McFiggins Home in 1930: Rochester, Monroe, New York Age: 59 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871 Relation to Head of House: Nephew Race: White Occupation:
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Parents' birthplace: View Image Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Cheulatte McFiggins 74 Fred McFiggins 59 View Original Record
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1920 United States Federal Census about Charlotte E McFiggins Name: Charlotte E McFiggins [Charlotte E. McFiggins] Home in 1920: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York Age: 60 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Canada Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Scotland Mother's Birth Place: Scotland Marital Status: Widow Race: White Sex: Female Home owned: Own Year of Immigration: 1865 Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 476 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charlotte E McFiggins 60 Frederick F McFiggins 48 View Original Record
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Just the last 2 census records.
Liz
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Lisa J in California
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16 Feb 2009 21:57 |
1920 United States Federal Census Name: Charlotte E McFiggins Home in 1920: Rochester Ward 10, Monroe, New York Age: 60 years Birth Year: abt 1860 Birthplace: Canada Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Scotland Mother's Birth Place: Scotland Marital Status: Widow Home owned: Own Year of Immigration: 1865 Charlotte E McFiggins 60 Frederick F McFiggins 48, Nephew, Single, Moulder, Stove? Foundry 25 Sterling Avenue Listed right below them: ------------ John D. (so I'm assuming his name was also McFiggins; could his name have been John Donald?); relationship is Head, but was originally Nephew and crossed out; born in Canada as were parents; Labourer, Foundry Elizabeth M, wife, age 23, born New York, father born New York, mother born England Harold, Son, 1 2/12, born New York, father born Canada?, mother born New York 25 Sterling Street
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GI Jane
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16 Feb 2009 21:53 |
Hi Lisa, I noticed this too, My John's parents were Malcolm Mcfiggins and Elizabeth Moodie both born and died in Scotland. I understood from another source that their son 'the said John' Mcfiggins born May 1850 in Scotland and died in Feb 1917 In New York. Not sure what other info I need to relate these things together. Maybe a marriage certifitcate. I believe John and Charlotte were married in 1885 but I can't find a marriage in Scotland and because she was Canadian i right or wrongly assumed that they married overseas!!! Jane
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Lisa J in California
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16 Feb 2009 21:44 |
Jane, are you sure "your" John married someone named Charlotte? You mentioned your John was born in Scotland. So far, this John appears to have been born in Canada.
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GI Jane
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16 Feb 2009 21:42 |
Thanks very much Alviegal - really appriecate your help Jane
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