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Thanks Evie

Natasha x

It's possible they weren't married -- but still possible she had been previously married and then married Richard Wells Brown under her first married surname. Just can't find a likely candidate, though.

I'm noticing there are still things untranscribed that would prevent finding a match-up.

For instance, I searched for marriages of any Richard Brown to any Ethel.

I got results like:

Marriages Mar 1917
Haddock Ethel Brown Aston 6d 520

-- no groom in the list.

There doesn't seem to be a matching Brown transcribed.

I'm not suggesting that's your Ethel at all -- just that there could still be untranscribed couples, or halves of couples, and that's preventing us from finding the marriage.

Patience may be needed!

P.S had one more thought, do you think it could be that they was not married???

Natasha xx

Thanks for your help, do any of you have any other suggestions?

Thanks again

Natasha x

Thanks!

Time to scratch head ... The only thing I can think of is that she was previously married, of course -- she was well over 30 when Eric was born -- but I've tried looking for such a marriage, with no luck ...

Searched quarter by quarter and nothing showing under Wheatley or Brown.

Sep 1920
Dec 1920
Dec 1923

I just did a little searchie at FreeBMD to see what quarters might be missing for surname Brown.

Searched for John Brown marriages 1911-1925, figuring there'd be at least a few of them each quarter. There are at least a few dozen of them each quarter.

All is cool up to 1920. Then these quarters are missing.

Sep 1920
Dec 1920
Sep 1921 - scratch that one, Wheatley is transcribed for that quarter
Dec 1923

Could you have the bad luck of the marriage having happened in one of those quarters?

I'm still on slow-speed because I haven't gone to the post office to pick up my new modem. It takes me forever to download images. But I did the groundwork here ...

Any volunteers?? Only four quarters! To look for the marriage of

Richard Wells Brown (almost certainly under Brown, not Wells)
Ethel Caroline Francis Wheatley

^^ fixed that - I put Lucy Wheatley at first.

Wisest to search for Ethel, I would think.

n

Well, that's the first thing to do once you have the parents' names -- find their marriage. Then the marriage certificate will tell you their fathers' names.

It's the father of Richard Wells Brown you are really wanting to identify.

Problem is, I've tried every trick, and don't find a marriage. If it was not long before Eric's birth, it likely isn't transcribed yet, so it's a matter of reading the images ...

Or they may not have been married. ;)

not looked at marriage on Free BMD

Natasha xx

No luck on a marriage ... but this is Ethel's birth:

Births Sep 1889
Wheatley Ethel Caroline F Kensington 1a 143

Have you looked for the marriage at FreeBMD, Natasha?

we're all excited with you!!!!

Morning Everyone


I have just recieved the certificate today, my grandad Eric's parents are:

Richard Wells Brown (occupation) Wrench Driver - Shipping.
Ethel Caroline Francis Brown formerly Wheatley.

Residence when birth of my grandad was registered was

86 Robinson Road, Mitcham Surrey.

Very exciting can anyone help with this information???

Natasha xx

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For info -- found WWB in the 1880 US census!

Name: Wm. Wells Brown
Home in 1880: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Annie G.
Father's birthplace: Kentucky
Mother's birthplace: Kentucky
Occupation: Physician
Marital Status: Married
Race: Mulatto
Gender: Male

Name: Annie G. Brown
Home in 1880: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Birthplace: Maryland
Relation to Head of Household: Wife
Spouse's Name: Wm. Wells
Father's birthplace: Virginia
Mother's birthplace: Maryland
Occupation: Keeps House
Marital Status: Married
Race: Mulatto

Wm. Wells Brown 60
Annie G. Brown 42
Thomas S. Calvin 28 -brother-in-law to WWB, tailor
Henrietta Calvin 26 - sister-in-law to WWB
Amelia Simmons 25 - servant


They were married in 1860, when Annie would have been abt 22 (per her age here) and William abt 45 (his age here is inaccurate).

In 1880, 20 years later, they had no children at home. It looks like they didn't have children.

we are!!! I shall send her a message!!!

Any word on the birth certificate?

We're all dying to know!

Natasha -- you have ordered the birth certificate, right?

(edit - yes, duh, you said that already. ;) )

There's not much anybody else can do until you get it, and can provide Eric's parents' names!

When you get that info, post it in the thread, and that will "nudge" it automatically, and we'll all see the info and have something to work with.

Hello Evie

I have not got a clue, i thought that's what we do (LOL)

Natasha x