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Hello,

I am doing research on this line as well. I am also stuck at Rachel Maria Absalom.

I have their marriage at Oct Nov Dec 1873 St Savior Southwark London. 1d 289.

I found this on Ancestry and they want $38 to get the record. :-( This record will have Rachel's parents on it so I am waiting until I want to part with 38 bucks or find a way to get it cheaper.

I see this thread is 5 years old and I hope someone is still interested in this so we can have some correspondence and work together.

Cheers,

Tracey

Hi Dee,

First time back to this thread since last night so only just seen your reply.

Thanks a lot for the information which you have supplied it is much appreciated.

Cheers :)

LL

What Maureenin NY found this is the 1901 census;

1901 England Census
about Rachel Cole
Name: Rachel Cole
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Newington, London, England

Civil Parish: Newington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub registration district: St Peter, Walworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Rachel Cole 52
Fred Cole 20 General labourer
Thomas Cole 19
William Cole 13
Maud Cole 15

Think it states Rachel is a widow, however the original image isn't very good.

Dee xx

Found this on 1881 not sure if its them though

Frederick COLE Head M Male 30 Walworth, Surrey, England Brass Founder
Rachel COLE Wife M Female 29 Walworth, Surrey, England
Florence COLE Daut Female 5 Walworth, Surrey, England

Dwelling 172 Trafalgar St
Census Place Newington, Surrey, England
Family History Library Film 1341124
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0545 / 69
Page Number 9

Births Jun 1855
Absolon Rachel Newington 1d 201

1891 A*try

Name Age
Rachael Cale 34
Fred Cale 10
Thomas Cale 8
Maud Cale 5
William Cale 4
Lilly Cale 2
RG12; Piece: 360; Folio 10; Page 13;

Maureen

I have found Frederick and Rachel on the 1881 census however, can't trace her birth!

maybe I need a break and come back to it in a little while :)

Hi Denise,

Yes apparently Frederick did marry a cousin! it is a bit confusing but I think I understand what you mean.

Thanks a lot for your help

LL

Hi LL,

I've been looking at the census returns, bearing in mind that Fredericks father possibly died in 1890, this is leaving only the 1881 census to search and I can't pinpoint that one, maybe we should search back threw the Absolom side and try and find Rachel Maria, this could give us a DOB and place of birth for her and then we could search forward again.

Hope you catch my drift and I haven't confused you!!! LOL!!!

Your Frederick possibly took on the middle name "Bishop" in his marriage to carry on his fathers name, if so there is a strong chance that his mother remarried and that's the surname we need to find.

Dee xx

Hi Dee,

I believe that my mother in law did say something about a Cole member of the family marrying her cousin.

Do you want me to double check this info with her?

LL

LL,

If the first Frederick Bishop is his father, then this is his marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Dec 1873 (>99%)
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Absolon Rachel Maria St.Saviour 1d 289 <<<????????
Cole Frederick Bishop St Saviour 1d 289
JOBLIN Louisa St. Saviour 1d 289
Lawrence William Frederick St.Saviour 1d 289

This Frederick died in 1890 St Saviour


Did your Frederick marry a cousin????

Dee x

His presumably fathers birth??? and his marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
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Cole Frederick Bishop Croydon 4 135



Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
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COLE Frederick Bishop Southwark 1d 25


Dee x

Until you know accurately where and when he was born, searching will be based on guesswork.

The marriage cert will have his age, and father's details..........

1911 census will tell you where he was born..........

http://fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk/


Unfortunately, both options will incur a cost...............

Hi all,

Frederick Cole married Emma Absolom in 1909, Southwark, London and although I have managed to locate their children and Emma's siblings I am struggling to find anything out about Frederick.

I have been told that he had brothers called; James,Thomas, and William and at least one sister Maud. Frederick himself was born c1885 most likely in the London area.

Can anyone help me out at all?

Thanks a lot

LL