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I agree with Reggie, never buy your certificates anywhere else but the link he gave. I don't live in UK and always order my certificates on line for $9.25 each and usually get them in less than two weeks. I've never had a problem.

I have ordered the cert for the 9.25. Thank you for the information.

Tracey

Here is what I have on Cole:

Information from my granny Cole obtained by interview 1989 (I was age 16)

Her father John Joseph Cole born 8 Jan 1888 in London was a club steward.
He married Margarite Sophia Jane Wright.

John Joseph's father was Frederick Cole and his mother was Rachel Absalom. Granny did not remember birth dates for her grandparents.

I found John Joseph Cole's marriage cert:
London marriages and banns 1754-1921
Names of fathers : Frederick Bishop Cole - brass finisher deceased
John Adam Wright - army corporal - deceased
They were married at st depot ford when John was 25 years of age.

Granny Cole (Elsie Edna Cole 27 Jan 1920- 3 May 2006) also mentioned aunt Maude, and uncles Frederick and Thomas.

Aunt Maude is Martha Florence I am thinking.

1881 census
175 Trafalgar St.
Frederick Cole brass finisher age 30
Rachel Cole age 29
Florence Cole age 5

1901 census
Rachel Cole widow age 52
Frederick age 20 general laborer
Thomas age 17 painter
William age 13 (William John Joseph Cole)

1911 census
Rachel Cole age 60
Thomas age 26
William age 22 occupation club steward
William Booth age 58 boarder ..... Interesting

London England School Admission and Discharges 1840-1911
John Jos Cole father : Fred Cole, address: 34b Aylesbury St. Last school attended it is noted Wm Cole. ( this is where I found John Joseph Cole is William John Joseph Cole)

Going back further

England Baptisms, 1813-1912 John Bishop Cole
Parents listed as: John Nichol and Caroline Sarah.

1851 census
John Cole age 32 Police Constable
Caroline Sarah age 29
Caroline Sarah age 3
John Bishop Cole age 2
Frederick Bishop Cole age 2 mths

1861 census
John Cole age 41
Caroline age 39
Caroline age 14
John bishop age 12
Fred-k Bishop age 10
Charlotte Ann age 7
Emily Ellen age 5
Ellen Elizabeth age ? Mnths.

London England Marriages and Banns 1754-9121

24 Feb 1846 John Nicholl Cole police officer his father Thomas Cole
Married to: Caroline Sarah Bishop her father Thomas Bishop

This is as far as I have gotten.

I am not very forum literate and am not sure if I can just move that Absalom message to another thread or if I should just start a new one. Sorry for the lengthy response time. I am a mom to a toddler and a special needs child and sometimes it takes me a while to get some me time to work on my interests. Oh and that small watch tread button is now checked.

Tracey.





:-)

No need to move anything, Tracey.....

Info will be added here - as and when any is found

For INFO

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Cole John J Wright Greenwich 1d 2023
Wright Margaret S J Cole Greenwich 1d 2023


First Name MARGARET SOPHIA J
Last Name COLE
Year 1983
Event Quarter 3
Year Of Birth 1884
Birth Month 9
Birth Day 3
District BURNLEY & PENDLE
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 40
Page 1028
Line Number 103
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

Is it certain that the aunt and uncles mentioned by your grandmother are on the Cole side of the family?

Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
PUXLEY Alice Caroline Greenwich 1d 1464
RAYNER Elizabeth Greenwich 1d 1464
USHER Stephen Greenwich 1d 1464
Wright John Adam Greenwich 1d 1464

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First Name JOHN ADAM
Last Name WRIGHT
Relationship HEAD
Condition MARRIED
Gender Male
Age 40
Year Of Birth 1861
Occupation BOMDR R F A
Birth Town MARYLEBONE
Birth County -
Birth Place -
Street -
Town -
Parish PRESTON
City -
Country ENGLAND
County Sussex
Vessel Name -
Municipal Ward PRESTON
Registration District STEYNING
Archive Reference RG13
Piece Number 946
Folio 26
Page 12

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First Name JOHN ADAM
Last Name WRIGHT
Age At Attestation Months 5
Age At Attestation Years 40
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Attestation Day 2
Attestation Month 4
Year Of Birth 1860
Document Type Attestation
Year 1900
Birth Country ENGLAND
Birth County MIDDLESEX
Attestation Corps Royal Horse & Field Artillery
Birth Parish MARY LE BON
Attestation Soldier Number 9149
Birth Town LONDON
Discharge Corps Royal Horse & Field Artillery
Discharge Soldier Number -
Rank -
Box 6307
Regiment Royal Horse & Field Artillery
Box Record Number 14
Soldier Number 9149
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd

First Name JOHN ADAM
Last Name WRIGHT
Mother's Maiden Name -
Year 1859
Event Quarter 4
Month of Registration -
Country England
County London
District MARYLEBONE
Volume 1A
Page 416
Line Number 3
Record set England & Wales births 1837-2006

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First Name JOHN
Last Name WRIGHT
Relationship LODGER
Condition -
Gender Male
Age 11
Occupation -
Year Of Birth 1860
Birth Town -
Birth Place -
Birth County MIDDLESEX
House Number -
House Name -
Street BROWN STREET
Parish ST MARYLEBONE
Town -
City MARYLEBONE
County London, Middlesex
Country ENGLAND
Registration District MARYLEBONE
Archive Reference RG10
Piece Number 166
Folio 68
Page 9
Record set 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census


Other Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Age Year Of Birth
GEORGE HUNT SON 37 1834 Image Transcription
SARAH HUNT HEAD 62 1809 Image Transcription
GEORGE WRIGHT LODGER 16 1855 Image Transcription
LYDIA WRIGHT LODGER 7 1864

For location

Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%)

Bishop Caroline Sarah Camberwell 4 41
Cole John Nicholl Camberwell 4 41
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Deaths Dec 1887 (>99%)
Cole John Nichol 67 Camberwell 1d 555

The aunts and uncles are certainly Cole. Elsie Edna Cole Married Alfred John Biffen who had seven siblings. And all of granddads brothers and sisters were told to me by my grandparents along with birthdays. I have my grandfathers line to the 1700's.

Thank you Reggie for all the information!

Tracey