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Hi Patricia

Unfortunately there are no Jersey birth, marriage or death records on line. The only way to find them is to physically look through all the indexes. Marriages can be a bit of a nightmare as there are so many places where the ceremony could have been performed.

Sorry not to have been more help.

Hi Pam
Many thanks for trying. I imagine her father might have been a Baptist minister in the 60s but I can't be sure.
I haven't used the marriage registry before. Do I search just the one for Jersey? Sorry to sound an idiot but can you tell me the best way to access it?
Thanks for all your help
Patricia

Hi Pam,
Thank you for your reply. Yes, I have a handwritten modern birth certificate for Mary Maria but I have a couple of queries about it that I need checked. You are correct, her parents were William & Eliza nee Hicks, who married in Portsea. Thank you for looking for Mary (P)ritcher's death.

Mary Noyce's mother, Eliza was born in Bath, England, but when her father died, her mother, also an Eliza, remarried to a William Targett, probably in Guernsey between 1835 and 1840. When Eliza Targett died, her death certificate gave her mother as Mary Richer and the name Ritcher appears in later generations as a forename.

Having drawn a blank with census returns, my only clue to work on is that Mary (P)ri(t)cher was apparently at 16 Old Street, St Helier in 1849. She registered Mary Maria Noyce's birth, but It seems that she was really the great grandmother, not grandmother. I would particularly value your opinion on whether the signature on the birth entry says Pritcher (as it says on my copy) or Ritcher. At least I will then know her real name.

Many thanks, Jeff

Jeffrey

As you have the reference for Mary Maria's birth do you also have a copy of her birth certificate?

MM's parents were William Noyce and Elisa Hicks, both born in England according to the 1851 and it looks as if they married June Q 1849 in Portsea Island, Hampshire.

If Mary Pritcher/Ritcher was her Grandmother then it's possible that she re-married as she is not a Noyce or a Hicks - does she appear on the 1841 anywhere?

I can go and have a look at the birth certificate, although probably not until next week, but there is no point if you already have it.

There is no death registered in St Helier for a Mary Pritcher or Ritcher between 1849 and 1851

Patricia

There is, I am reliably informed, only one Baptist Church over here. Their records are at the Archive and have recently been added to the Catalogue. I spoke to the Archivist who did the calalogueing (spelling?) and she says there was no minister called Bayes (or similar). I did have the name of the minister who was there during the early 60's but can't find it at the moment.

All I think I can do realistically is have a look in the Registry Office marriages to see if her name appears as I think anything other than C of E marriages are entered there, assuming that if she married it was in the Baptist Church.

Hi Pam,
Thank you for your kind offer. I would really appreciate any help with a Mary Maria NOYCE born 17 Sept 1849 or her "Grandmother" Mary PRITCHER / RITCHER of 16 Old Street, St Helier. I have an extract of birth entry 386, page 39, of Mary M NOYCE, of the parish of St Helier, who was registered on 1st Oct 1849 by her grandmother. I have 2 queries; Was the informant Mary PRITCHER or RITCHER (RITCHER appearing elsewhere in the family) and is there a death in St Helier, Jersey for Mary (P)RITCHER around this time?
By 1851 the Noyces were in Guernsey and I suspect the only Jersey connection was with Mary (P)ritcher of 16 Old Street, St Helier.
Any clues would be fantastic.
Jeff

Hello Joanne

I can only speak for Jersey but there is no electoral roll covering the island as a whole. Each parish compiles and holds it's own register of electors and therefore I do not have access to them.

I have looked in the current telephone directory and there is no Warwick (or W) Drake listed.

Hello
I wonder if you may be able to help me please -
Im looking for Warwick Stephen Drake on the electoral roll in the Channel Isles, can anyone help please? He was born June 1953 in London.

Joanne x

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Hi Pam
Valerie Bayes (? spelling) moved from Yateley (Hampshire) to Jersey about 1956. She had recently left school when she was 15, so her date of birth must be c1941. Her father was the Baptist minister here & he moved to a church in Jersey. I don't know if she married or even if she is still alive. I should be very grateful for any info.
Patricia

Hi Cathie

I've now had a look through telephone directories from 1964 - 2003 and there are no A Hirsts listed at all.
Not having a parish where they lived it would take too long to trawl through the old rates books so I'm afraid I don't know what else to suggest - Sorrry

Hi Pam

Thanks very much for the reply/s sorry about the mix up.

Regards
Cathie

I think we crossed in the ether!

I have just replied on your thread

Each parish holds there own electoral rolls, there is no index for the island as a whole.
There are 3 Hirst families in the current telephone directory but none with the initial A.
Next time I'm at the Archive I can have a look in the older telephone directories.

Hi Jerseylily
Please could I have a lookup on the Elec roll for Jersey?
If poss Im looking for a lady by the name of Audrey HIRST (nee Rayner) b.1934 and husband Alec Hirst.

Many thanks
Cathie

Hi Pam
Thanks for reply. I'll get back to you as soon as I can find out more.
Patricia

Thanks Jerseylily
On the 1861 census that I have her name is Anora spelt wrong so have they taken it as Anna on the form that you have.
I have her death certificate and when she died in 1878 she was 55 so she was born 1823.Most things I have seen she has different ages.Is this because they could not read or write.There was 6 years between them from the death certificates but going by the census there was 10.
Regards Corinne

Corinne

All it said on the certificate was Mary Jones and gave her status as widow, which is actually unusual for Jersey certificates, they usually say 'widow of ......'

I'm assuming this is the couple that you are looking but the censuses (1861 and 1871) have a 10 year age gap between them and this 1853 cert has them both the same age. Also, she now has 3 different Christian names, Mary - 1853, Anna - 1861 and Nora - 1871. Although it does tie in with their first child being born in 1854, plus both father's have the right names.

I'll be back at the Archive on Tues, if I have time I'll see if there are any other Patrick Maloneys marrying ladies called Jones!!

Patricia

I'm afraid you're going to have to give me a bit more information.
Is the lady you are trying to find still alive?
Was she born or possibly married in Jersey?
When you say they moved here a 'long time ago' are you thinking 10 years/50 years?

Pam

Hi Pam
I've had to give up on my grandparents but I wonder if you could find any info on Valerie Bayes (not sure of spelling). I don't know if she married or not. She is 70ish. Her father was a Baptist Minister & they moved from Yateley Hampshire quite a long time ago - again, not sure when.
I should be very grateful for any info. you can find, if you have the time. Thanks!
Patricia

Just wondered did Mary Jones go by her maiden name when she married.