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18 Jun 2009 14:40 |
Will
I can't find any trace of the Root family in Jersey, in fact I can't even find them on the 1861 census. The only one I can find is N Root (presumably Nathan) born Brightlingsea, who appears on board a ship. There were 42 individuals from Brightlingsea on the census, all on board ships.
If you could let me know the census reference I'll have another go next week.
Pam
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Astra
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18 Jun 2009 19:05 |
Hi Pam The Root family census in 1861 was awful. Took me ages to find it. The N Root you have is Nathan.
RG 9/4403 Schedule No 87 Gorey Pier. Parish of St Martin, Gorey
Sam'l Root Head 51 Mariner England Samuel Sus'a Root Wife 49 England Susannah Eliz'th Root Dau 21 Milliner England Elizabeth Nathan Root Son Mariner England Nathan D'l Root Son 14 Carpenter England Daniel
Nathan seems to have been duplicated
Have you got a list of all the other Brightlingsea sailors in Jersey. I might be able to trace my bunch if I can find one of the others. I tried that with the people they were with at Steyning, Sussex in 1851 and it did not work. We are all suckers for punishment though.
Thanks
Will
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18 Jun 2009 20:00 |
Hi Will
Got them - it didn't help that they were transcribed as Toot! I never thought of that one, tho' I did try Boot.
If you go to the 1861 C I census and just type England, Essex, Brightlingsea in the 'birthplace' boxes, no names or anything else you'll get the 42 matches, all 'Vessels Guernsey'
I'll have another look in the deaths next week but having seen the mess they made of the 1861 I'd lay money that their disappearance is down to transcription errors rather than death.
All the best
Pam
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Astra
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19 Jun 2009 20:58 |
Thanks Pam I will pass the your message on to Will.
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25 Jun 2009 21:12 |
Hello Astra
I've been through the death registers for all 12 parishes from 1861 to 1871ish and there are no Root deaths at all.
Apparently there was a cholera epidemic in the 1860's which claimed approx 300 lives but according to Archive staff all were certified in the same way as any other death.
Hope you can pass this on to Will
Pam
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Astra
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26 Jun 2009 05:41 |
Hi Pam I will pass this on and thank you so much for taking the time to look this up. Astra xx
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Patricia
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21 Feb 2010 12:03 |
Hi Pam This is a long shot - my gandparents Edward & Eizabeth Abell (& possibly their son Edward) moved to Jersey about 1910. They bought / rented a house in Gorey. They returned to England (Derby / Nottingham) a few years later as they did not like being so far from their family. I wonder if it is possible to find when they went to Jersey & when they returned & why they went there in the first place. Also their address in Gorey. I should appreciate any info.
Patricia
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21 Feb 2010 14:58 |
Patricia
All I can think of for this one is to check the parish rates books to see if the they were paying rates on a property which might get you you the address where they were living. I doubt if I can help with the rest of your queries as there are no records of passengers in and out of Jersey. Have you found them in 1911? That might give you an indication of when they came to Jersey.
Pam
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22 Feb 2010 08:52 |
Hi Pam Thanks for your quick reply. I know that they were not in England in 1911. I'll do a bit more research to find the last record of them in England.
We (me & other members of the family) are intrigued as to why they left. It seemed an odd thing to do at that time. They had had a back street greengrocers, sold up & left. Tax problems maybe?. .Patricia
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Chris in Sussex
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22 Feb 2010 10:40 |
Pam
Are you still offering lookups? If so, can I take you up on your very kind offer.
I am looking for the baptism of
Thomas BENEST born c1831 St Ouen Jersey
Father would be Charles BENEST.... Occupation Plasterer? Mother: Jane?
Many thanks Chris
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Reece
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22 Feb 2010 19:27 |
Hi Pam,
Thanks for your offer.
Do you know if there is also a site for Guernsey look-ups, please?
I have found a relative in the 1841 census for St Peter Port, Guernsey and am looking for further information.
I am assuming that these records are not available in Jersey.
Thank you for your help.
Reece
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24 Feb 2010 19:41 |
Patricia
I've looked through a few of the old Rates books but no sign of them so far. I'll try a few more next time I'm at the Archive.
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24 Feb 2010 19:47 |
Reece
I'm afraid I don't know anyone who does Guernsey look-ups and I don't think they've got anything on line. There was a member a while back called Sablon who lives in Guernsey but I don't know if she'd be able to help. The Priaulx Library is the main centre for researching family history.
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24 Feb 2010 19:55 |
Chris
Lucky you - the parish of St Ouen is a joy to research as the records go into lots of detail. For instance
Baptism 21/9/1828 Tom, son of Charles, son of Francis Benest and Jeanne (Jane) Grandin Godparents Thos. Hubert, son of Philippe of St Helier and Jeanne Le Gresley, wife of Alexandre McDonald and Aunt. Probably the same Thomas Hubert who's with the family in 1841.
I also noted the baptisms of all Tom's siblings which I'll type up for you later plus a couple who didn't make it as far as 1841.
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Reece
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24 Feb 2010 20:47 |
Thank you very much for your reply and mentioning the Priaulx Library for family history research - I have just had a look and also googled Guernsey Ancestry and there is a wonderful site containing a huge amount of information plus lots of links. So now I can continue my search for members of my Cleal family. I think they are also still in Jersey.
Many thanks.
Reece
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24 Feb 2010 21:35 |
Thanks Pam I can't find them on the 1911 census anywhere. I'm fairly sure that they were living in Jersey then but they might have come back for a visit. Thanks anyway. I suppose if they were renting a property they might not be in the rates book. Patricia
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25 Feb 2010 00:45 |
Reece
A few Cleals on this site
www.jerseyheritagetrust.jeron.je
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Chris in Sussex
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25 Feb 2010 11:05 |
Pam
Thank you so much for the info on Thomas Benest.
It makes a change for any of 'my' lot, anywhere , to have any more than the bare bones in parish registers!
No hurry for the siblings info because at least I now know I have the right man for 2x GAunt's LEGITIMATE husband :-O lol
Many thanks again
Chris
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26 Feb 2010 10:47 |
Chris Here are the rest of those baptisms. In each case the parents are Charles Benest, son of Francis Benest and Jeanne Grandin. The godparents are quite good for building a picture of Charles' family. All in St Ouen's parish church.
2/5/1819 Charles - godparents Father and Susanne Alexandre,wife of Pierre Benest (This one may have died although I didn't find a burial)
10/6/1821 Jeanne - gp Francis Benest, of St Lawrence, grandfather and Betty Cabot (his 2nd wife)
18/4/1824 Pierre - gp Pierre Benest, son of Francis and Susanne Alexandre his wife, Uncle and Aunt
9/7/1826 Charles - gp Charles Le Maistre and Marie Le Maistre, daughter of Philippe of St Clement
12/5/1831 Jean - gp Jacques Le Brocq and Rachel Vautier, his wife. Burial 23/4/1833, aged 2
2/6/1833 Elizabeth - gp Jean Crill and Elizabeth Benest, his wife. Uncle and Aunt
12/3/1836 Rachel - gp Jacques Le Brocq and Rachel Vautier
14/7/1838 James - gp Jacques Alexandre and Elizabeth Le Maistre his wife. Burial 2/2/1839, aged 6 months.
26/1/1840 James - gp as above
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Chris in Sussex
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26 Feb 2010 13:02 |
Pam
Thank you so much for all those lovely baptism records....I wish all incumbants were so thorough in recording :)
Thanks again Chris
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