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On a later census shes shown as b Wooton Bassett Wiltshire there is oddly enough another Mary Ann Herbert in Wooton Basset she probably married a Herbert and lived to a ripe old age.
my Mary Ann ??? Herbert died in 1863 after having 3 children to John Goodwin.
I think I shall have to get the marriage cert.

thanks for your help.

Martin

What made you state Wootton Bassett as they married in Lambeth

Marriages Sep 1844
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GOODWIN John Lambeth 4 338
HERBERT Mary Ann Lambeth 4 338

I would get the marriage cert as this will tell you the fathers names.

Lesley

Thank you Lesley

Martin

The only ones I can find are married to Herbert's

1841 England Census
about Mary Herbert
Name: Mary Herbert
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Wootton Bassett
Hundred: Kingsbridge
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cricklade
Sub-registration district: Wootton Bassett
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Herbert 25
Mary Herbert 25


1841 England Census
about Mary Herbert
Name: Mary Herbert
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Wootton Bassett
Hundred: Kingsbridge
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Cricklade
Sub-registration district: Wootton Bassett
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Herbert 33
Mary Herbert 25
John Herbert 2
William Herbert 5 Mo


Lesley

Debbie

I can't seem to find anything for Harriett or John Murphy I'm afraid.

Lesley

This seems like Phoebe's birth

Births Mar 1862
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ROWLAND Phoebe Auckfield 2b 130

Emma can't possibly be the mother of the older Children so the birth certificates have to be bought to identify the mother.

Lesley

Blue

Can only find this but Phoebe is there too!!! Most confusing - do you have Bethany's birth certificate???

1871 England Census
about Bethany Rowland
Name: Bethany Rowland
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Female
Where born: Horsham, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell St Giles
Ecclesiastical parish: Camden
Town: Peckham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: Peckham
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
William Rowland 40
Emma Rowland 23
Bethany Rowland 12
Phoebe Rowland 10
George Rowland 6
Sarah Rowland 3


William is a Hawker (definitely a travellers occupation!)

Lesley

Wow,
thanks Lesley,this could be the Faulkner's
Did you have any luck with Amy and Phoebe Roland and family?
many thanks
Blue

Blue

This is the only birth that correlates with the marriage record and where he states he was born.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Robert Faulkner
Name: Robert Faulkner
Year of Registration: 1860
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: East London
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 35


1861 census

1861 England Census
about Hobert Faulkner
Name: Hobert Faulkner
Age: 4 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James W
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Cripplegate, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Giles Without Cripplegate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: East London
Sub-registration district: Cripplegate
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
James W Faulkner 41
Sarah Faulkner 33
Frederick Faulkner 10
Charles Faulkner 7
Emily Faulkner 6
William Faulkner 4
Hobert Faulkner 4 Mo (states Robert on Census)


Head of family James is a Lithographic painter from Middlesex Hackney.
Mother is from St Andrews Holborn.

Address is 3d Green Arbour Court.

Lesley

Any chance you can look for a Mary Ann Herbert b 1813 Wooton Basset Wiltshire.
later married a John Goodwin in 1844 ish
I have info from this date but not earlier.

Thanks

Hi Lesley, Thank you for your kind offer,

please could i ask you to look for Harriett Adelaide Murphy, Husband John Murphy, not sure if they had children. They were married in Brighton 1888, but Harriett was born in St Saviour's, Middlesex 1871.

Please could i have the 1891 / 1901 census.

Many Thanks

Debbie

Hi Lesley,
I have just received a marriage cert today for my husbands great grandparents
It doesn't tell me the mothers names only the fathers,so i wondered if you would please try to find the households before the marriage of the children in 1878
in 1881 census this Robert states place off birth as Bow

On the cert it says
Robert Faulkner
age 19 Labourer
address James Street ( i think this would be in Peckham London.
father James Faulkner occ Painter (i think,it's hard to read)

St Mary Magdalene parish church Peckham 30th Sep 1878

then we have
Amy Roland age 19 sometimes spelt Rowland
father Robert Roland occ Gardener
no address or occ is given by her name
I do know that the Rolands were travelers and Amy's real name is Bethany,born in Eastbourne sussex

I know that Amy had an older sister called Pheobe,so she may show up on the 1871 as well living with parents,she married in 1880
I think the families all lived in the Peckham/Camberwell area of London

Tall order i know
Many thanks
Blue

Karon

Limehouse (Where he states he was born) is/was in the Tower Hamlets Registration District at the time he was born.

This only leaves the following possibles - can you eliminate which ones you have received which were wrong?

Births Dec 1874
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ROBINSON Charles William Bethnal Green 1c 268
ROBINSON Charles William Mile End 1c 533

Births Mar 1875
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Robinson Charles William Stepney 1c 495 (Discount)

Births Jun 1875
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Robinson Charles William Stepney 1c 471 (Discount)

Lesley

Hi Lesley could you please Help with my message on records office.
birth look up more help please dogsB 30/04/2009 12:35:54 15
Charles William Robinson born 1874/75, father ...
many thanks Karon

Louisa

1901 England Census
about Harriet Davey
Name: Harriet Davey
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Thetford, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Colchester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Botolph
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Colchester
Sub-registration district: Colchester, First Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members: Name Age
Harriet Davey 43
Walter T Davey 19
Ernest W Davey 11
Harriet M Davey 6


See possible marriage

Marriages Dec 1880
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Davey Walter Thetford 4b 1073
Hensby Harriett Thetford 4b 1073

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Marriages Dec 1899
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Hensby Ruth Naomi Greenwich 1d 1773
Mudge Jabez Greenwich 1d 1773


1901 England Census
about Jabez Mudge
Name: Jabez Mudge
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ruth N
Gender: Male
Where born: Deptford, London, England

Civil Parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: St Alphage
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich West
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
Jabez Mudge 34
Ruth N Mudge 33
Ralph S Mudge 3/12


Lesley

Hi Lesley,

Re Hensbys - We have managed to get back further due to a chance stumble upon another Hensby name tree, but we are stuck again. Can you help at all with these?

Edward Arthur had 2 sisters and a brother:

William born c1861 m Mary Moore born c1879
Harriett born c1863
Ruth born c1868

Can you find anything for them at all? I believe they were all in the Thetford/Bury St Edmonds areas. Their father was also William, with another 2 generations of William above that, but I am trying to find some living relatives and want to go forward now!

Many Thanks
Louisa

Online now to help x

Nudge - online now

Thank you Lesley for the look up of Thomas Stonehouse -much appreciated

Hi Lesley,

Thanks very much for your lookup. I think maybe the name Doris morphed into Dorothy over time in our side of the family - it looks very much like the right family! I will follow up from there and see how much further we can get.
Thanks again!

Louisa