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LOOK UP PLEASE - EMIGRATION TO AUSTRALIA

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Marion

Marion Report 9 Dec 2008 06:21

Amazing, thank you again. I hope to try and find some children of Ivy's living in Australia, if she had any....as she was my Great Aunt.

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 8 Dec 2008 22:40

Possibly William Henry's birth:

Births Sep 1898
Field William Henry G Marylebone 1a 586


... and in 1901, with mother Rose:

Name: William H J Field
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Male
Where born: St Marylebone, London, England
Registration district: St Marylebone
Charles H Field 1
Rose Field 24
William H J Field 2
Arthur C Morgan 10
David Morgan 39
Harry Owen Morgan 12
James A Morgan 9 months
John H Morgan 4
Pheobe E Morgan 35
Pheobe E Morgan 6
Willie D Morgan 8
RG13; Piece: 111; Folio: 11; Page: 13

Marion

Marion Report 8 Dec 2008 06:28

Once again thank you everyone I now have lots to look up!
Regards Marion

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 8 Dec 2008 01:06

Just to add...

Wm Hy Geo FIELD died in Ringwood Vic in 1976 aged 78, son of Wm Joseph & Rose nee MARSHALL (reg 24816). I can't find his birth in Victoria.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 8 Dec 2008 00:41

Hi Marion

The two possibles are:

to Cora May WILSON in 1938 (reg 785)
to Freda Alice Selina ARROWSMITH (nee ROSS) in 1939 (reg 3183). Freda was born in Jumbunna Vic in 1905 to Thos Hy & Isabella.

The John Norman in Fawkner Memorial that Carol found is memorialised beside Freda Alice (who died 3 May 1986 aged 81). Not that this tells you for sure that this is 'your' John.

However, Cora is memorialised as Coralie May, died in 2000 aged 88, so possibly too young to be the right wife..?

Carol

Carol Report 7 Dec 2008 11:03

There is a John Norman Ryan at Fawkner Memorial Park, death in 1967

http://www.fcmp.com.au

Carol

Carol

Carol Report 7 Dec 2008 10:46

Vic Electoral Rolls

1919 Fawkner Prahran, 241 High St Prahran
John Norman Ryan - Driver

1924 Fawkner Prahran Gardens, 117 York St
John Norman Ryan - Labourer
Ivy Amelia Ryan - Home Duties

1931 Flinders Box Hill, 28 Landale St Box Hill
Ivy Amelia Ryan - Home Duties
Another 1931 entry at Indi Ringwood, "Parkside" Berringa Rd Nth Ringwood
Ivy Amelia Ryan - Home Duties

1936 Indi Kangaroo Ground, Berringa Rd S. Warrandyte
Ivy Amelia Ryan - Home Duties

Regards
Carol

Marion

Marion Report 7 Dec 2008 02:42

Now viewing the pages - thank you Richard.

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 7 Dec 2008 02:10

Hi Marion.

Instruction to get to his war service records:

1. Go to http://www.naa.gov.au/
2. Click on the link labelled "RecordSearch" near the top right hand corner of the screen.
3. Click on the link labelled "Search Now - as a guest user"
4. A new window will open. Type "John Norman Ivy Ryan" (without the quotes) in the first box and click on the "Search" button. You will get one result.
5. Click on "Display"
6. Click on the link labelled "View digital copy". Another window will open, with scans of the original docs.
7. To move through the document, click on the right-arrow where it says "Page 1 of 81" at the top of the window. If you wish to go straight to a page, type the required page number in the box and press the Enter key.

Hope that helps! With regard to the certificate info, you will have to purchase copies of the register entries from https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home. "Click on Search Family History Indexes", then "Historical indexes", then "Search the historical index". I would advise that you download the two death certs first as these will have the info on their marriages and children. It will cost you 99 cents to view each index entry and a further $17.50 for each scanned image that you download. Well worth it as you will gets lots of info from the death certs!

Cheers,
Richard

Marion

Marion Report 7 Dec 2008 00:47

As I am new to all of this I thank Richard & Cherilyn for your help.
Richard I now know the first date Ivy arrived in Australia 1919 thank you. I am unable to find my way to page numbers on the site you gave me.
Cherilyn I would love more information on remarriages for John if you could please.

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 6 Dec 2008 09:30

And now thanks to what Cherilyn has found you can also download Ivy's death cert. and also her 2nd marriage cert. Her death cert should give details of any children that she had.

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Dec 2008 08:53

Ah just checked the disc and she remarried to Wm Hy George FIELD in 1938 (reg 2411).

So assume they divorced. Two possible remarriages for John Norman RYAN in 1938 & 1939. Let me know if you would like details. As Richard mentions, his death cert would have all these details (children, spouses etc)

Cherilyn

Cherilyn

Cherilyn Report 6 Dec 2008 08:51

Hi Maz

This is interesting - it looks like Ivy remarried:

Surname: FIELD
Given Names: Ivy Amelia
Father: Hine Frederick
Mother: Amelia RUSSELL
Death Place: KEW
Age: 78
Year: 1977
Reg Number: 10808
Event: D

Possibly after John's death in 1967, or maybe they divorced???

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 6 Dec 2008 06:46

I just saw in his records - on page 80 - that his wife returned with him to Australia on board "Canberra" - embarked 23/7/1919, disembarked Melbourne 11/9/1919. So she did come back with him in 1919. Therefore, any kids were likely to have been born in Victoria, if they in fact did have any. The Victorian births are only online up to 1907 (I'm sure that it used to be up to 1924?), so it will be difficult to find out unfortunately. Your best bet would be the death cert of John Norman Ryan in 1967. You can download this from online.justice.vic.gov.au for $15 and it should list any children if indeed there were any.

Cheers,
Richard.

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 6 Dec 2008 06:24

Army - 6th Regiment, 4th Field Artillery Brigade. Service no: 16086. His complete service records are online (all 81 pages) at the site I gave above - have you found that OK?

Marion

Marion Report 6 Dec 2008 06:14

Richard in Perth..... Was John Ryan in the Army or Air Force? sorry I can't quite make it out!

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 6 Dec 2008 06:12

2 hits for John Norman Ryan and 7 hits for Ivy Amelia Ryan on the Australian Electoral rolls on Ancestry (all in Victoria). Maybe someone with access to those records could get the details...

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 6 Dec 2008 06:03

Yes the 1937 list looks like a return visit, as this is her travelling Aus to UK (intended address given as 5 Twilley St):

Name: Ivy Ryan
Birth Date: abt 1899
Age: 38
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 30 Apr 1937
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ship Name: Strathnaver

Richard in Perth

Richard in Perth Report 6 Dec 2008 05:43

There's a John Norman Ryan death in Victoria in 1967. (online.justice.vic.gov.au).

Marion

Marion Report 6 Dec 2008 05:38

Thank you everyone for all this excellent information.