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Sorry Samspade I jumped from that post in an excited state to find out about Lucy thinking you had had enough of me. Sorry !!! :-(

dont know???

Possible family for Thomas James Tripp:

1881 England Census
about Thomas J. Tripp
Name: Thomas J. Tripp
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James H.
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Camborne, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 31 Grafton Tce
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Carpenter

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Tripp 50
James H. Tripp 43
Thomas J. Tripp 24

Oh Marmite
I have posted most of this info on your other thread.naughty naughty you'll have the posting police breathing down your neck ;-)

Why would he call himself Francis William when his name was Thomas James? Is there another individual involved here?

Possible family for Edward Fairbrass

1881 England Census
about Edward Fairbrass
Name: Edward Fairbrass
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Anne M.
Gender: Male
Where born: Canterbury, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Canterbury St Alphage and Black Princes Chantry
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: 17 King Street
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Assistant Schoolmaster

Registration district: Canterbury
Sub registration district: Canterbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Anne M. Fairbrass 54
Edward Fairbrass 53
Edward Fairbrass 22
Frederick A. Fairbrass 20

It appears that Lucy Toole married the Assist. Schoolmaster

Joan interesting that could explain a lot!!!! maybe she did??? it did happen in those days. I did not know he had a cousin named Margaret?? he did call him self by a different names Francis William rather than Thomas can we know his cousins on any census??? I like a bit of scandal!!

Joan you are a clever person !!! :-)

Lucy Toole married Edward Fairbrass in 1882, they had two daughters; Lucy, 1882 and Winifred in 1883. Edward died in 1886 and Lucy Toole Fairbrass than married Thomas James Trip in 1891, she was then again a widow in 1901.

Possible death record for Thomas James Trip:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Thomas Tripp
Name: Thomas Tripp
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 46
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 49

Two possibilities but I believe it's the first one, Boarder, because she's unemployed school mistress.

1881 England Census
about Lucy Toole
Name: Lucy Toole
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil Parish: St John Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 9 Landfield St
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Chandlers Shop Keeping A Schoolmistress Unemployed (G S)

Registration district: Hackney
Sub registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Porter 14
Florence Porter 11
Jane Porter 18
John Porter 60
Walter Porter 16
Lucy Toole 22


1881 England Census
about Lucy Toole
Name: Lucy Toole
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis T.
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 4 Mansfield Rd
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Governess

Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Murray 27
Francis T. Toole 48
Frank Toole 19
Frederick Toole 8
John Toole 14
Lucy Toole 21
Margaret Toole 50
Margaret Tripp 19, NIECE

This one is interesting as well because Margaret Tripp is listed as a niece. So did your Lucy marry a cousin (Tripp) after her first marriage?

Joan

Was she Lucy Tool before she was Tripp??? or was she Fairbrase before she was tripp?? what name would she have gone back to after her first hubby and before her second???

Two possible death records for Edward Fairbrass:

Deaths Jun 1886 (>99%)
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Freebairn Edward 26 Shoreditch 1c 107

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Deaths Sep 1886 (>99%)
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Fairbrass Edward 27 Tunbridge 2a 377

Marriages Jun 1882 (>99%)
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CRAWFORD Ellen Elizabeth Hackney 1b 801
FAIRBRASS Edward Hackney 1b 801
Scales Thomas William Hackney 1b 801
TOOLE Lucy Hackney 1b 801

Hi Joan can we know whe she was married to before Thomas and who her parents were? I know her DOB does not add up as being 42 in 1901 while the census says b 1859 !! i make her born in 1864

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Lucy Frances L Fairbrass
Name: Lucy Frances L Fairbrass
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 133

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Winifred Margaret A Fairbrass
Name: Winifred Margaret A Fairbrass
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 139

Marriage record to Thomas James Tripp:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Lucy Fairbrass
Name: Lucy Fairbrass
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Pancras (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1b
Page: 257

On the 1901 census (not 1910), Marguerita Tripp is listed as S. Daughter not cousin as on 1891.

Joan

After viewing the actual census, Marguerita Tripp is a cousin not daughter.

This was her in 1910 does it help?

1901 England Census
about Lucy Tripp
Name: Lucy Tripp
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Devonport, Devon, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub registration district: Kentish Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Lucy Fairbrase 18
Winifred Fairbrase 19
Lucy Tripp 42 widow
Marquista Tripp 16 think it says margurita

Are you sure of Lucy's birth date?

1891 England Census
about Lucy Fairbrass
Name: Lucy Fairbrass
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Plymouth, Devon, England

Civil Parish: Old Romney
Ecclesiastical parish: Canterbury
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Romney Marsh
Sub registration district: Lydd
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Lucy Fairbrass 32
Lucy F L Fairbrass 8
Winifred Fairbrass 7
Marguerita Tripp 7