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Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 17:04

Michele,
PLEASE don't feel like that but as mother's maiden names don't start till 1911 we are waiting for the cencus then we will ALL be able to move foward!

Kirsty
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Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 17:03

David,

?????1891?????

Name: James Brown
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Stow, Edinburghshire
Registration Number: 699
Registration district: Stow
Civil Parish: Stow
County: Midlothian
Address: Main St
Occupation: Shoemaker
ED: 4
Household schedule number: 60
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1891_370
Household Members: Name Age
Helen Brown 89 ~wife????
Herbert C Brown 8
James Brown 41
Mary B Brown 2
Sarah J Brown 10
William Brown 12
Thomas Richardson 55 ~lodger

this looks better

1881

Name: James Brown
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Kilmarnock
Registration Number: 644/14
Registration district: Kinning Park
Civil Parish: Glasgow Kinning Park
County: Lanarkshire
Address: No 2 St James St.
Occupation: Bootmaker
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 55
Line: 17
Roll: cssct1881_251
Household Members: Name Age
Agnes Brown 9
Ellen Brown 16
Helen Brown 50
James Brown 50
John Brown 22
Mary Brown 18

or

1881

Name: James Brown
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen
Gender: Male
Where born: Abernethy, Perthshire
Registration Number: 406
Registration district: Auchtermuchty
Civil Parish: Auchtermuchty
County: Fife
Address: Backwynd
Occupation: Shoemaker
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 88
Line: 25
Roll: cssct1881_113
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Brown 17
Edward Brown 13
Helen Brown 51
James Brown 51
Mary S Brown 10

Can you give the witness names on the marriage cert, there might be a clue?



Michele

Michele Report 14 Nov 2008 16:41

thanks kirsty i no theres 1 more sibling dont no there name feel like im wasting your time thanks michelle

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 16:33

Michele,
I will not be able to find anymore then you can at the moment as you have the 1901 cencus, untill the 1911 cencus is released!!

Sorry

Kirsty
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Michele

Michele Report 14 Nov 2008 16:25

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These are the details for all individuals who lived with Isabella Summers on the night of the census.
1901 census record for household of Isabella Summers «Back to results
Address Front St Private House
Civil Parish Bedlington
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Pauls Choppington
Parliamentary Borough or Division Morpeth
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Bedlingtonshire
Administrative County Northumberland

Householder 1
Name Elizabeth Summers
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 4
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation Juvenile
Employment Status
Where Born Greenhead Northd
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Isabella Summers
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 24
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Greenhead Northd
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name John Summers
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 2
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Juvenile
Employment Status
Where Born Greenhead Northd
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Thomas Summers
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 25
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Coal Hewer
Employment Status
Where Born Barrington Northd
Language
Infirmity

David

David Report 14 Nov 2008 16:23

james brown is on his daughters marriage certificate as a bootmaker, margaret married george wood in 1883 she was living at 9 ingliston street edinburgh, in 1881 she was working as a domestic servant in edinburgh living with the family she worked for(aged 17) I have her marriage certificate but seem to be struggling to find her earlier than 1881. dont know of any siblings.

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 16:13

David,

1891???

Name: Margaret Brown
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 282/2
Registration district: St Mary
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 67 Lochee Road
Occupation: Jute Yarn Reeler
ED: 8
Household Members: Name Age
John Smith Brown 6 ~son
Margaret Brown 29

David, do you know of any other children they had?

There are a few Helen & James Brown's

Or do you know James's occupation?

Anymore information to try and work out which 1's they are

Kirsty

David

David Report 14 Nov 2008 15:53

are you able to look up scottish census's?

if so could you help me find her in the 1871 census, or james brown and helen smith in the 1861 census if they were living together

thanks again

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 15:40

David,
sorry, I can't search Scottish BMD'S.


Michele,
There are 100's of Isabella Nicholson's born around that time in that area so I would get the marriage cert to get some more info.
And the same for Thomas Summers!

Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%)
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Baker Hannah Ann Morpeth 10b 634
Nicholson Isabella Morpeth 10b 634
Shiel Robert Morpeth 10b 634
Summers Thomas Morpeth 10b 634


I can't find them in 1901????

What else do you know about them?

Kirsty

Michele

Michele Report 14 Nov 2008 14:42

hi kirsty its me again michelle thank you for the help you gave me on william burgess lve ordered marr cert.can you help with isabella nicholson dob 1877 married thomas summers 1896 his dob is 1876 i no they had a daughter elizabeth born 1897 a son john born 1899 also jane 1903 shes my nan where there any more siblings

David

David Report 14 Nov 2008 13:35

hi kirsty,

was wondering if you could help me, im having trouble finding the birth record for margaret brown.

she appears in 1881 census living in edinburgh aged 17, and again in 1901 aged 37 and her place of birth is listed as dundee, forfar. Her parents are James Brown and Helen Smith, I also can't find any record of their marriage. could you find any of them in an earlier census please

david

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 11:34

Cheryl

1881???

Name: Martha Ware
Age: 76
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Mother in Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Kingston-Upon-Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Manor Alley
Condition as to marriage: Windower
Occupation: No Occupation

Registration district: Hull
Sub registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Brackenbury 48
Sarah E. Brackenbury 48
William P. Brackenbury 17
Martha Ware 76

Is this James in 1891?

Name: James Wroe
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: York, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Darton
Ecclesiastical parish: Darton
Town: Mapplewell
County/Island: Yorkshire
Household Members: Name Age
Charles W Flowers 35
Gerty Flowers 9
Orace Flowers 4
James Wroe 42
Mary Wroe 48
William Wroe 15


Sorry I am not having much luck at the moment...

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 11:03

Cheryl,
got them

1861
Name: James Whare
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Hallifax, United States

Civil Parish: Hull St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
James Whare 12
Louisa Whare 8
Martha Whare 53
William Whare 10

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 10:52

Cheryl,

Soory I am confussed!!!

your
2xgt grandmother was Martha Whare
2x gt grandfather unknown at the moment

their children were

James
Louisa
William

Please could I have some ages & places of birth

Kirsty

Cheryl

Cheryl Report 14 Nov 2008 10:41

hi there mad mum, could you look up the marriage of my great great grandfather. I managed to find them in the 1861 census . staying in 53 born Hull yorkshire his name is not mentioned , only his wife with children, her name was martha Whare, do not know his name, but my great grandfather was james with sister Louisa and brother william. Eager to find who he was and when they got married. also gg grandmothers maiden name. I live in South Africa so am not sure where yorkshire is, if it is close to your research! would be great if you could help.
thanks Cheryl

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 14 Nov 2008 10:19

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Maralyn

Maralyn Report 13 Nov 2008 14:47

Hi Kirsty
Thank you so much for the info. What a gem you are!!
Maralyn

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 13 Nov 2008 09:56

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Kirsty

Kirsty Report 12 Nov 2008 21:46

Maralyn,
working back

1901

Name: Thomas Thompson
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Garforth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Methley
Ecclesiastical parish: Methley St Oswald
Town: Methley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
William Hall 46
Elenor Thompson 15
Fanny Thompson 58
John Thompson 25
Thomas Thompson 60
Willie Thompson 12

1891

Name: Thomas Thompson
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Garforth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Methley
Ecclesiastical parish: Methley
Town: Methley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Thompson 5
Fanny Thompson 48
Henry Thompson 21
John Thompson 15
Robert Thompson 17
Thomas Thompson 50
Willie Thompson 2

1881

Name: Thomas Thompson
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Fannie
Gender: Male
Where born: Garforth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Methley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address: Green Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Coal Miner

Registration district: Pontefract
Sub registration district: Castleford
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Hardcastle 65
Fannie Thompson 38
Henry Thompson 11
John Thompson 5
Kate Thompson 13
Robert Thompson 8
Samuel Thompson 18
Sarah Thompson 2
Thomas Thompson 40

1871

Name: Thomas Thompson
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hanny
Gender: Male
Where born: Garforth, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Methley
Town: Methley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Thompson 5
Hanny Thompson 28
Harry Thompson 1
Kate Thompson 3
Samuel Thompson 8
Thomas Thompson 32

1861

Name: Thomas Thompson
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Garforth, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Methley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Fitten 27
Hannah Goodall 32
Joseph Goodall 37
Thomas Thompson 21

1851

Name: Thomas Thompson
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Dinah
Gender: Male
Where born: Garford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Garforth
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Thompson 15
Catherine Thompson 4
Dinah Thompson 47
George Thompson 21
John Thompson 6
Samuel Thompson 18
Thomas Thompson 50
Thomas Thompson 12
William Thompson 9

1841

Name: Thos Tompson
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Garforth
Hundred: Skyrack (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Tompson 40
Dina Tompson 38
Ann Tompson 15
Charles Tompson 14
George Tompson 12
Samuel Tompson 9
Benjamin Tompson 9
Thos Tompson 2
William Tompson 2 Mo

Hope this helps

Kirsty

Kirsty

Kirsty Report 12 Nov 2008 21:34

Helen,
Name: Sinnie Anna Bradley
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bradley 37
Clara Bradley 5
Edward Charles Bradley 13
Frances Bernard Bradley 12
John Wilfred Bradley 8
Joseph Robert Bradley 1
Olive Bradley 10
Sinnie Anna Bradley 33

1891

Name: Emma A Bradley
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Charles
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton, Flintshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Holy Trinity
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Kingston Upon Hull
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Bradley 27
Edward C Bradley 3
Emma A Bradley 24
Francis B Bradley 2
Olive B Bradley 7/12


1881??

Name: Emilene Thorn
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Edward R.
Mother's Name: Mary J.
Gender: Female
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Ventnor
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street address: 4 St Catherines Place
Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub registration district: Godshill
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edward B. Thorn 14
Edward R. Thorn 52 ~labourer
Emilene Thorn 15
Frank A. Thorn 10
Mary J. Thorn 39


I would send off for her birth certificate.

Kirsty