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Michele,
1901
Name: Arthur J Kilner
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Harry
Mother's Name: Mary Annie
Gender: Male
Where born: Shipley, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Shipley
Ecclesiastical parish: Shipley St Paul
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: North Bierley
Sub registration district: Shipley
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Kilner 38 ~ Grocer ~ EMPLOYER b.Penistone, Yorkshire
Mary Annie Kilner 38 b.Trowbridge, Wiltshire
Eleanor Kilner 10
Ernest Kilner 5
Arthur J Kilner 1
I will keep trying tomorra
Kirsty
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Hi kirsty
lve just had two certs arrive for the kilners here goes john arthur kilner cant make out the date aug 1899 fathers name harry kilner grocer mothers name mary annie kilner cant make out maiden name address 20,commercial st shipley.may duck kilner dob 11/12/1896 mothers name kate kilner domestic servant nothing for the father no maiden name address 37 prince st long
michelle
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Hi
Patience Taylor - seaside area - Father was shipwright, probably portsmouth
she married a James Harterton no marriage traced - he was a sailor
her daughter Eliza was born 1830 Portsmouth
don't worry if nothing is found been trying for 20+ years!!
margaret
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Lorna,
I am still looking!!!
Margaret,
Please can you give me an idea for a place of birth as the disks I have are all photocopies of parish records and there are 1000's of pages!
Martin
It is your Grandfather's marriage & Grandmother's death I want to know about very interesting....
Please keep me posted
Kirsty
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Hi Kirsty
I have been talking to my sister about VERNON PENMAN, my fathers brother... my sister remembers my father talking about his brother who died young... apparently his died as a result of a snake bite....!!!! OOPS
PERCIVAL RICHARD PENMAN served in the British Army , we have his medal.. on the side it recalling it saying Lance Coprporal { LCPL } P R PENMAN Bombay Railway.... I'll try and get it from my sister and get some more detail...
Martin
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Hi Mad Mum
Not sure if your can help
looking for details of a Patience Taylor born c 1810 (hopefully) in the areas you mention her daughter Eliza Harterton was born in Portsmouth 1830.
Petience died c1832
Many Thanks
Margaret
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Lorna,
I will see what I can find but please remember there are at least 4 pages per year and I am searching 46 years!!!
Do you know if there were any children from the first marriage or even the second to try and narrow it down a bit?
MARTIN,
Death
Emily M Penman
Age 53
Q4 1948 Middlesex S
5f 33
So she died or the death was registered the quarter AFTER Percival remarried????
Wow I think you might need to order some certificates!!!
Kirsty
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hi, i am a mad mum of three. could u see if there is a marriage for george edward bridge born 1911 bermondsey to a kate eggleton circa 1912. this would have been a second marriage. his first marriage was in 1941 and he died in 1987. so somewhere in between. is this possible to find. many thanks
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Martin.
Births Jun 1890
Woods Elsie Catharine Wellingbro' 3b 16[6_]
OR
Births Sep 1915
Woods Elsie C Whitworth Boston 7a 733
I am also trying to find the death of Emily
Kirsty
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Kirsty,,,,,
So.... my dad, LAWRENCE, born in India, came to the UK in 1939, with his mum and brothers and sisters...... perhaps later joined by his father PERCIVAL, who remarried an ELSIE WOODS ??!!
i wonder what happened to EMILY ?
We used to go and visit his sister NOREEN in Hanworth and i remember her husband REGINALD GARROD...
I also fondly remember CLARENCE and PEGGY,, all now passed away.
SOOOOO much to think about and take in...
Im just going to have a think for a few mins,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
thank you
Martin x
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Martin,
Did you know your Grandfather remarried????
I have found this
Percival R Penman
Elsie C Woods
Q3 1948 Middlesex.S
5f 169
Also your Aunts & Uncles????
Clarence A Penman
Joyce R Gale
Q1 1948 Middlesex.S
5f 180
Peggy J Penman
Edward J Spellman
Q3 1957 Cardiff
8b 549
Lawrence S Penman
Doreen E Jennings
Q1 1957 Ealing
5e 474
Kirsty
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Martin
Name: Percival Richard PENMANE
BirthDate: 27 NovYear: 1886
Location: Holy Trinity, Rangoon, (C. of E.)
Parents: Sandford, Rly-driver; Adelaide
Event type: Baptism
Date: 17 DecYear: 1886
Location: Holy Trinity, Rangoon, (C. of E.)
Parents: Sandford, Rly-driver; Adelaide
Name: Noreen Isabel PENMAN
Event type: MarriageStart date: 28 DecStart year: 1939
Location: St George's Church, Agra
Spouse: Reginald Charles GARROD, soldier, R.A.M.C.Age: 21Status:
Parents: Percival Richard
Bengal
Theres more!
Name: Vernon Percival Joseph PENMAN
Event type: BurialDate: 05 MarYear: 1938
Location: Kasganj
Age: Status: 17 1/2,
son of Percival Richard, loco foreman, & Emily Myrtle
Bengal
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Kirsty...
Wow. yr amazing, where did you get all that stuff from... keep going!!
SO... EMILY PENMAN age 42..... that could be my grandmother.. under ocupation, what does HD mean ? Head of family ?
Could she have been Indian or travelled there from UK or as it states below; ' last country of permanent residence ' ?
Martin.
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Martin
Name: Emily Penman
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 42
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 164521
Name: Clarence Penman
Birth Date: abt 1925
Age: 14
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 16452
Name: Peggy Penman
Birth Date: abt 1932
Age: 7
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 164521
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Martin.
LOOK
Name: Lawrence Penman
Birth Date: abt 1930
Age: 9
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1939
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Bombay, Port Said and Marseilles
Ship Name: Strathmore
Shipping Line: Peninsula and Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd
Official Number: 164521
Address 11 Sunningdale Avenue, Hanworth
Travelling tourist class
Travelling with
Emily Penman 42 (Under occupation is says H.D.)
Clarence Penman 14
Peggy Penman 7
Last country of permanent residence: India
Country of future intended permanent residence: England
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Kirsty....
Well, you said that you like a challenge.....
Martin.
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Martin,
pooooooooooooooooo!!! ~ was because this is going to be hard!!
I have asked someone to look on the incoming passenger lists for me to hopefully give us some more information.
I can't find a birth for your grandfather so I am thinking he was not born in the UK.
I am going to try and find his death which at least will give us his age.
Kirsty
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Kirsty.. whats with the Poooooooooooo ?
Sorry to be so vague, I dont know much about my dads side unfortunately...
I have my fathers uk passport, Born 1st August 1929 in AHAMADABAD.
I was told a long time ago that my father came over to UK with his brothers and sisters when he was 10 and lived at an address near Twickenham.
Family gossip is that my grandfather served in the British Army in India { we have a British Army medal, inscribed on the side; Lance Corporal P R PENMAN. Bombay Railway }
We think that, possibly, whilst he served there he married an Indian lady, I do not have any details on her at all.
Regards
Martin.....
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