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7 Feb 2009 11:52 |
Barbara,
At the moment I can't see anything.
How do you know Harriet Barry was John's mother, do you have his birth cert?
If I try and work back I may be able to find something
What do you know about Catherine?
If you could give me any more information it will really help
Kirsty
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7 Feb 2009 11:32 |
Gill,
Is this the right family??
1871
Name: William Budd Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Father's Name: William Mother's Name: Ellen Gender: Male Where born: Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillip County/Island: London Country: England Household Members: Name Age William Budd 42 Ellen Budd 51 Annie Budd 19 William Budd 17 Loeadre Osthly 74
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Name: Ellen Budd Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Lambeth County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 4 Bishops Ter Condition as to marriage: Windower Occupation: Laundress Registration district: Lambeth Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second Household Members: Name Age Walter W. Badlett 23 Elizath. Badlett 24 James W. Badlett 5 Ellen Budd 61
1891
Name: Ellen Budil Age: 71 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Mother-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Hersiet Hampstead, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips County/Island: London Name: Ellen Budil Age: 71 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820 Relation: Mother-in-law Gender: Female Where born: Hersiet Hampstead, Hertfordshire, England Civil Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical parish: St Phillips County/Island: London
Household Members: Name Age Henry Hally 44 Annie Hally 40 Ethel Hally 9 Ernest Hally 6 Harold Hally 4 Ellen Budil 71 Sarah Lowe 39 Rose Henry 13
take care & speak soon
Kirsty X
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6 Feb 2009 21:52 |
Hello Kirsty,hope you're well? possible for you to do an 1891, on my gggrandmother ?..... Ellen Hosier 1819, Hemel Hempstead found her in Lambeth but they moved back to Hemel Hempstead after Hubby lost his job, he then strung himself up in the barn in 1876, It looks on 1891 as though she is back in Lambeth? would like to see her with her children... William Budd1854 or AnnieBudd 1851, was unable to find her on the 1881 but she lived till 1894, so she was somewhere:::::all the best Gill
Addition'''''her death was reg in Lambeth
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6 Feb 2009 11:49 |
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3 Feb 2009 10:03 |
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30 Jan 2009 23:44 |
Gill, LOL
you do make me laugh
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30 Jan 2009 20:59 |
Hi Gill, Am also pmsl
Take care Speak soon
Kirsty X
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30 Jan 2009 19:45 |
Kirsty,thankyou so much,you;ve confirmed my findings..... Sarah married Walter no 1 he dies June 1897,,,six months later she marries Walter no 2 ,Sarah then dies 1905.....
1911 census shows ....Walter no 2 has remarried and living in Brampton with wife Harriet and HER kids, at the same time Sarah Jnr from sarah,s 1st marriage to Walter no 1 is 24. head of house,single .17 lodgers,and is caring for Walter no 2.s kids(step siblings)no wonder i can't find a marriage for the poor girl,
Appreciate all your help Kirsty,take care, gill
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30 Jan 2009 16:24 |
Gill,
1891
Name: Walter C Darch Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Sarah E Gender: Male Where born: Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Chesterfield Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary and All Saints County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Household Members: Name Age Walter C Darch 36 ~pickle (spice) manufacturer Sarah E Darch 26 ~Tutbury, Staffordshire, England Sarah E Darch 4 Jean A Darch 1
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Name: Sarah E Darch Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Walter E Mother's Name: Sarah E Gender: Female Where born: Chesterfield, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Chesterfield Ecclesiastical parish: Chesterfield St Mary and Calow All Saints Town: Chesterfield County/Island: Derbyshire Country: England Household Members: Name Age Walter E Wilkinson 24 ~Baker ~North Crawley, Buckinghamshire, Sarah E Wilkinson 25 ~Tutbury, Staffordshire, Sarah E Darch 14 Jean A Darch 11 Walter D Wilkinson 1
Births Dec 1891 Darch Emily Mary Chesterfield 7b 688
Deaths Sep 1892 Darch Emily Mary 0 Chesterfield 7b 370
Deaths Jun 1897 Darch Walter Charles 42 Chesterfield 7b 379
Marriages Dec 1897 Darch Sarah Elizabeth Chesterfield 7b 1338 Wilkinson Walter Edwin Chesterfield 7b 1338
Hope this helps
Kirsty X
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30 Jan 2009 15:35 |
Hello kirsty, when you have time any chance you could check on 1901?
Looking for Walter Darch 1855 Tetbury, Gloucestershire wife Sarah,... children born in Chesterfield. Derbyshire. they were Sarah 1886 Jean 1889 Emily 1891 be great if you could help, Gill
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Wendy
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28 Jan 2009 14:24 |
Hi Kirsty
You are a star! Thanks so much. I've got the number for Gertrude' birth certificate, so will send off for that. I'm pretty sure that you've found great great grandfather - the details seem to fit. Not sure about Amy but all the info is very useful and I really appreciate your help. Will keep you posted.
Sada (Wendy)
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28 Jan 2009 11:03 |
Sada,
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Marriages Sep 1891 Colthup Henry Albert Canterbury 2a 1392 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ellis Amy Canterbury 2a 1392 Hazelden Gertrude Elizabeth Canterbury 2a 1392 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Morgan William Canterbury 2a 1392
1891
Name: Amy Ellis Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Relation: Lodger Gender: Female Where born: Faversham, Kent, England Civil Parish: St Gregory Ecclesiastical parish: St Gregory Town: Canterbury County/Island: Kent Country: England Household Members: Name Age Abraham Hyder 49 Martha Hyder 47 Harold Hyder 2 Amy Ellis 26 1881
Name: Amy Ellis [Amy Cheesman] Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Sarah J. Gender: Female Where born: Faversham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Folkestone County/Island: Kent Country: England Household Members: Name Age John Cheesman 35 Sarah J. Cheesman 36 Amy Ellis 17 Frank Cheesman 8 Bertha Cheesman 7 Arthur Cheesman 3 Harrold Cheesman 2 Nelly Cheesman 1
1871
Name: Amy Ellis Age: 7 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Stepdaughter Mother's Name: Sarah Jane Gender: Female Where born: Faversham Civil Parish: Faversham Town: Faversham County/Island: Kent Country: England Household Members: Name Age John Chessman 25 Sarah Jane Chessman 26 Amy Ellis 7 Eliza Fuller 61 ~Mother Charles Golding 15 ~Servant
1891
Name: William Morgan Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Gender: Male Where born: Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: St Mary Northgate County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Canterbury Sub registration district: Canterbury
Private 1st Dgn Guards
If I were you I would get Gertrude birth certificate All the info above fits but I may have missed something I am not 100% happy that this is them for sure.
Kirsty X
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28 Jan 2009 01:12 |
Am going to bed now but will try again tomorrow
Kirsty X
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28 Jan 2009 00:43 |
Sada,
for ref 1901
Name: Amy Morgan Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Faversham, Kent, England Civil Parish: Norwich Ecclesiastical parish: Thorpe St Matthew Town: Thorpe County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Household Members: Name Age Amy Morgan 34 Percy B Morgan 7 Herbert R Morgan 5 Gertrude F Morgan 4 Gladys V Morgan 2
Births Jun 1893 Morgan Percy Bonner Aberystwith 11b 61
Births Dec 1895 Morgan Herbert Rees Colchester 4a 608
Births Mar 1897 Morgan Gertrude Florence Colchester 4a 672
Births Sep 1898 MORGAN Gladys Verna Pontypridd 11a 591
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Wendy
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27 Jan 2009 21:53 |
Hi Kirsty Martin Penman recommended you as being very helpful. You have found out lots of information about his grandfather, who was also my mother-in-laws father (!). We have been busy piecing lots of Indian history jigsaw puzzles together, so thank you so much for your help.
Could I ask you to find out something on my side of the family please? My great grandmother - Gertrude Florence Morgan - born Feb 1897 in Colchester Barracks. Found in birth records and 1901 Census - Mother Amy age 34, siblings Herbert (5), Gladys (2) and Percy (7), living in Norwich, Norfolk at time of census. Amy stated as married and living 'on own means' but no sign of my great great grandfather living with them. I know he was a military man, as thats how my great grandmother came to be living in the barracks. I have no idea what his name was and no idea what Amy's maiden name was.
Can you help please? Thank in advance Sada x
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27 Jan 2009 16:30 |
and that was funny story,,,MEN !
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27 Jan 2009 16:29 |
Lucky! my god Kirsty i could pm you a name and you would be horrified,it only occured in the 90s, relatives on my fathers side in london, blood curdling. never knew them ,but it was really awful, want more? ...
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27 Jan 2009 16:19 |
Wow lucky you to have a story like that in your tree!
The most exciting story I have is that my 2x Gt Grandfather got drunk on the morning of his wedding fell asleep on the train and ended up 100 miles away!.. you would have thought that my 2x Gt Gran would have learnt something from that morning but she went on to marry her and on their honeymoon (to the coast) he took her to all his old Navy haunts left her sat outside the pubs with half a pork pie while he got drunk!!!
Anyway
Speak soon
Kirsty X
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27 Jan 2009 16:14 |
He was a Stockbroker/accountant in Bath. some very important Bathonians lost a lot of money.he fled to London,did the same under different name, i found inquest for him ,he.d thrown himself in the Thames night before he was to be arrested...have a contact in Bath who needed death reg.s to look at newspapers in Bath.Funny how he was reg under both names, they are the same man,as its mentioned at the inquest......and that me dear is me ggrandfather! thanks so much Kirsty. Take care, gill X
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27 Jan 2009 16:13 |
Keith,
1841 ~ for ref
Name: Anthoney Trotman Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Berkeley Hundred: Berkeley (Upper Division) County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Household Members: Name Age Betty Smith 75 Susan Whiting 45 Hanah Sherman 15 Henery Smith 15 Anthoney Trotman 14
I have been unable to find a marriage or death for him, as he is your gg grandfather please could you tell me when your g grandfather was born and who his mother was.
Kirsty
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