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hELLOOO mad mum
how r you doin
just thought i'd send you a lil message. as its been awhile.. hope all is well yr side.
caio for nw
jacki
ol mad mum of twinnies hehehe

Hi Kirsty,Walter died oct 1928,aged 51 suicide in the Thames .. Ada was still alive then,but i can't find anything for her??

gxx Kirsty that is Walter Seniors death.

Just had a thought,perhaps she could have gone back to the name of Summerfield ..lol just thinking aloud here!!

Gill, forget that marriage!

Deaths Dec 1932 (24%)
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Brown Walter H 77 Bath 5c 594

xxx

Hi Gill,

cencus

1881
Name: Ada Summerfield
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Emily
Gender: Female
Where born: Hawkesbury, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Hawkesbury
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Chipping Sodbury
Sub-registration district: Hawkesbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Summerfield 45
Emily Summerfield 42
William Summerfield 10
Fanny Summerfield 9
Ada Summerfield 7
Bertha Summerfield 5
Lucy Summerfield 2

1891
Name: Ada Summerfield
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hillesden, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Stroud
Ecclesiastical parish: Stroud
Town: Stroud
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
George Whiteman 40
Mary R Whiteman 47
Alice M Whiteman 8
Ada Summerfield 17

1901
Name: Ada Summerfield
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Hawkesbury, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bath
Ecclesiastical parish: St Swithin
Town: Bath
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Honora M Hocker 61
Ada Summerfield 26


Marriages??

Name: Ada M Brown
Spouse Surname: Maggs
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1916
Registration district: Bath
Registration county (inferred): Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 1046
SAMUEL MAGGS

without going through the death index I can't see a death at the moment Hun.

Have we found when Walter died?

Kirsty
xx

Good Evening Kirsty,can i try and give my Ggrandmother a bash? lol

She has completely slipped off the radar.after my Ggrandfather deserted her, i know she was alive up untill 1928 as i have Sunday Paper pictures of her in bed!! after that she apparently moved in with an elderly gentleman but i can't find a second marriage or death?she must be out there somewhere..

Ada Mary Brown maiden name Summerfield born 1874 Chipping Sodbury, she apparently stayed in Bath,Somerset..

What are the chances with this one.?

gillxx ( emailed you regarding the other matter!)plus her in bed..just for a giggle,need one at the moment!!

nudge

Hi Kirsty, not yet but I must get it ......

Derek

Derek,

Do you have her marriage certificate?
If we had her father's name I would be able to trace her through the cencus and hopefully find her birth that way.

Kirsty

You're right Kirsty..if you don't ask...

My mum missed out on knowing her father,and i missed out on a Grandfather,and all because you worry about upsetting people by asking questions.

Bull by the horns time,..

Gill

xx

Hi Kirsty, Annie married 1903 to Charles Andrews WAY. Another researcher has just sent me a copy of the 1911 census with them on in. Annie is quoted as being 27 and born in Lambeth.

Algernon William
Beatrice
George Thomas
Herbert Jessie

These were indeed their children.

Best wishes,
Derek

Derek,
are these her children?
Algernon William
Beatrice
George Thomas
Herbert Jessie

if so then

Name: Annie Denham
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 392


1901

Name: Annie Denham
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: George J
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: London, England

Civil parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St George Campden Hill
County/Island: London
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
George J Denham 44
Annie Denham 41
William E Denham 18
Annie Denham 12
Helena Denham 10
Lillian E Denham 9
Jessie E Denham 7
Evlyn Denham 5
Mary B Denham 4
Vera H S Denham 2
Dorathy Denham 1


there is this 1 for 1891

Name: Annie Denham
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Annie
Gender: Female
Where born: Clapton, London, England

Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls
County/Island: London
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Annie Denham 27
Annie Denham 9
Alice Denham 7
Louisa Denham 4
Lizzie Denham 3
Rose Denham 2


I have had a look at 1911 cencus and she is listed on there and her year of birth is 1884 ( http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/results4.aspx?x=449585931)

It might be worth you looking to see if there is any hints on that

i will keep going though

Kirsty

Please please please Kirsty, can you help? I am struggling .... I am trying to locate the birth for a Annie Blanche Denham somewhere between 1880 and 1885 in Lambeth???? In the death list it gives her birth 'about 1882'. Annie died April-June 1969 St. Marylebone. Any ideas?

Best Wishes,
Derek

Go on Gill, TAKE THE PLUNGE!!!!!!

lol
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Hi Kirsty.. I phoned William's son today his father William senior died in 1972! !!





Still not been brave enough to tackle him on his fathers second and third marriages...ha ha he is just such a sweet old man

grhhhh need to be braver me thinks ,but he's just such a cutie,,he babbles on and you can't get a word in edgeways!

Gill X

Gill, I haven't even started 1947 yet!!!!
Can you tell me when he died so I know when to stop!
LOL

Kirsty
x

Crikey Kirsty...eenie...meenie...mynee...mo!
think i need to be a little pushy and ask him..
Thankyou so much

Gillx

Gill,
you can search upto 1935 on freebmd so

Q4 1936 ~ Millman ~ Birmingham
Q2 1937 ~ Savage/Reid ~ Battersea
Q4 1937 ~ Smith ~ Plympton
Q4 1937 ~ Willis ~ Doncaster
Q2 1938 ~ Morris ~ Shrewsbury
Q2 1938 ~ Byrne ~ Hemsworth
Q3 1938 ~ Hobden ~ Sevenoaks
Q4 1938 ~ Mountjoy ~ Bideford
Q2 1939 ~ Mold ~ Reading
Q1 1940 ~ Ayling ~ Surry Mid E
Q3 1940 ~ Betts ~ Elham
Q4 1940 ~ Alford ~ Gloucester C (William C H Sheppard)
Q3 1941 ~ Lawrence ~ Hendon (William H N Sheppard)
Q4 1941 ~ Lane ~ Kidderminster
Q1 1942 ~ Sheppard ~ Chesterfield (Joyce)
Q2 1943 ~ Wheeler ~ Hull
Q4 1944 ~ Kearsley ~ Bolton
Q4 1945 ~ Barrett ~ Pontypridd
Q2 1946 ~ Turnbull ~ Durham E
Q3 1946 ~ Evans ~ Birmingham

Thats him Kirsty i'm in touch with William Peter by phone but he tells me his father went on to marry again twice!! and i feel i cant ask him too much at the moment.

gx

Gill,
looks like they only had 1 child

Name: William P Sheppard
Mother's Maiden Surname: Brown
Date of Registration: Oct Nov Dec 1925
Registration district: Bath
Registration county: Devon/Cornwall/Seilly. Dorset/Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 673

Kirsty .if its too much then really not to worry,, but if you're not too busy
i'm very patient,,i'll just keep checking back.

thankyou so much.

gillxxx