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Gill,

I think I will start that in my tree I am so bored of all the B****y Ag Labs!!!!


LoL

Morning Kirsty...Yep,we could just make it all up as we go along..

i do like to tell a story!!! lol

Gill X

Gill,

WHAT ARE YOU LIKE !!!!

and calling me Miss Marple.....

PMSL

xxxx


You and I could offer help to others that are in the same situation as you and put an ending to all their wondering!!! LOL


XXX

Jacki,

stick to the GRO which is the main records office

RO is the local records office ie Wigan, Sheffield etc

I use the GRO online but have just started using the local ones.

NEVER pay more then £7.00

You can ask for some information to be checked on the certificate when you order it but you will be charged for it I think it is about £3.00 for each thing they check.

ie maiden name, mother/fathers name, date of birth/death etc

this is the web to order from

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/

and her birth

Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
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Miller Ellen Wigan 8c 30


This is the family in 1901

Name: Ellen Miller
Age: 8 months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Frank
Gender: Female
Where born: Wigan, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Wigan
Ecclesiastical parish: Wigan St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Frank Miller 43
Joseph Miller 15
Mary Miller 12
Victoria Miller 4
William Miller 3
Ellen Miller 8 months
Andrew Maljeskine 20
Anthony Sodlosky 44
Mary Birnckich 20
Constantine Shrnid 38
Margaret Shrnid 22

do you have the cencus for the family?

pm me your email addy and I will send copies of it to you


Kirsty

Not to worry thanks for all your time and patients Karon

(Brain dead!) Kirsty,i have Thomas 1871,s grandson checking for his birth cert.he knows it's in the family ,but not sure who has it.That should tell us who that hussy Ann is, Jane wasn't on the 1881 because they had her locked in the cupboard under the stairs, then when she agreed to have his children they let her out. And they all lived happily ever after.(after they killed Ann)

The End

Gill

But the question is did Jane know????

and where is she in the 1881 cencus?????

Missy Marples....all those deaths!!!!!!!!! are you saying Ann was a surrogate
mother? ha ha you get bl**dy worse..you're not mad you're MENTAL ,you sound just like me...what you dont know ..you make up..I do believe the 2 Thomas.s stayed in touch..because of the church thing..perhaps it was really a cult!! teh heh human sacrifices ,had you thought about that?
AND ,DO NOT BE ASKING ME TO GET CERTS FOR THAT LOT!
Gill

Gill, the thing that is making me wonder is that there is no sign of Jane in 1881 and why have Jane & Thomas not had children sooner????????

Unless they were the only couple of that time who knew what caused it LOL

Something strange is going on with Thomas snr, Jane, Ann & Thomas jnr...#


Also think these were twins

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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STANBRIDGE Arthur Ernest Cambridge 3b 529
STANBRIDGE Horace Sideney Cambridge 3b 529


look at this lot

Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
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STANBRIDGE Thomas Charles W Cambridge 3b 529

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Births Mar 1873 (>99%)
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STANBRIDGE David Charles Cambridge 3b 549
Stanbridge David Charles Cambridge 3b 649

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Births Jun 1874 (>99%)
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Stanbridge Arthur Ernest Cambridge 3b 515
STANBRIDGE Joseph William Cambridge 3b 513

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Births Jun 1876 (>99%)
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STANBRIDGE James Charles Cambridge 3b 552

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Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
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Stanbridge Elizabeth Cambridge 3b 516

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Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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STANBRIDGE Arthur Ernest Cambridge 3b 529
STANBRIDGE Horace Sideney Cambridge 3b 529


Deaths Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Stanbridge James Charles 0 Cambridge 3b 309

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Deaths Dec 1876 (>99%)
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Stanbridge Arthur Ernest 2 Cambridge 3b 303

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Deaths Dec 1878 (>99%)
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STANBRIDGE Elizabeth 0 Cambridge 3b 332

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Deaths Sep 1884 (>99%)
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Stanbridge Alfred Edward 0 Cambridge 3b 314
Stanbridge Joseph Henry 0 Cambridge 3b 315

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Deaths Dec 1887 (>99%)
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Stanbridge Horace Sydney 6 Cambridge 3b 314


Another thought could Ann have used by Thomas to have a child as Jane either couldn't or the children didn't live.

Ann had Thomas then Jane either took on the children as her own or did have children?????????

Also there seems to be another set of twins that died.

THE PLOT THICKENS!!!!!Knowing that Thomas jnr named one of his children Horace I would think that could be 1 of his siblings???

Sorry Kirsty,manic morning...thankyou for the 3 births with his wife Jane.
can't find anything for Ann See..am hoping if i add these to my tree i might get a few contacts...you never know!!!!
I have a hunch he wasn't married to Ann, waiting to hear from rellie as to cert..

Gill x

No luck on cencus, without going through each original copy 1 by 1 sorry


Kirsty

Great thanks. Looks very good to me Kirsty. Will order soon.
found marriage dec 1897 mile end Gardine.

Could this be his birth???

Births Dec 1880 (>99%)
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GORDION James St. Geo. East 1c 392

Hi DogsB

I have had a look and nothing jumps out!!

I am about to start the school run but will have another go when I get back

Kirsty

Where you gone Gill????

1861

Name: Ann See
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abraham
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Female
Where born: Welney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Welney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
Abraham See 35
Sarah A See 35
Ann See 10
John See 7
Isaac See 4
Elizabeth See 1


1881

Name: Ann Smart
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Welney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Welney
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address: Him Drove
Condition as to marriage: Married
Household Members: Name Age
James Smart 30
Ann Smart 30
Hannah Smart 9
Charles Smart 7
Kate Smart 2

So doesn't look like her

Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%)
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See Ann Downham 4b 607
Smart James Downham 4b 607

again no cencus at the mo for these 2??????????

Gill,
can't pick her up on the cencus.....

Gill,

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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STANBRIDGE Arthur Ernest Cambridge 3b 529


Births Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Stanbridge Agnes Louisa Cambridge 3b 491


Births Jun 1886 (>99%)
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STANBRIDGE Lilly Rose Cambridge 3b 535

Morning Kirsty.as you say need Thomas Jnrs b/cert am just in the middle of emailing rellie,hoping he might have a copy,or know of someone who might....good fun this thankyou so much..i cant find Ann either..but where would i have got her name SEE from? back later if i find anything..What about this one..
close
Births Mar 1851 (>99%)
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SEE Ann Downham 13 86

Downham is Cambs..and very close to Chesterton!!!!!!!!

LOL Gill,

yep and sort of done the housework!!!!


I have been trying to find Ann no luck at the mo