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Gill,
can you give me anymore info on either John Summerfield or Sarah Roberts

i can't see anything at the mo????

Kirsty

Doh..you've caught me on the hop!! emails going mental this morning..
erm...found their marriage..erm...where the heck did i put that now..?
blast it have to get back to you Kirsty lol hang over the morning..totally lost the plot ha ha back in a bit..

xx

Right back again Kirsty..had a couple of those RESOLVE sachets in the cupboard, i was "giving it large" last night and i'm not the party animal i used to be! lol

That is Charles and i'm only really guessing that John and Susan are his parents,,the reason i'm trying to attach him to my Summerfields is because on the 1901 he is living in the same road as a family THE MARTINS who fostered a child by an ADA MARY BROWN(summerfield)
the little girl is down as Florrie Martin,not true she was a BROWN!!

So i'm really just trying to find a connection with CHARLES and ADA? can you find anything on John Summerfield 1839 Bristol?

SHOULD I GIVE UP?

XX

Gill,
I haven't given up on you, I have been looking but still nothing sorry

x

Kirsty..so sorry..back again.you have the right Charles he married
a Susan (slocombe) Charles mother died the year after he was born
she was a Sarah Roberts this is why he only shows up as grandson..with the Roberts family..
father was a John Summerfield..but not been able to find him at all after
wife Sarah,s death...1868??

sorry for leaving you!!

gillxxx

how did the run go??

Hi Kirsty

Thank you for the offer. This one is driving me mad ! I am looking for John James Cockburn / coburn born 1845 in Portsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire on the 1861 Census.

He should be living with his father Edward who is married but his wife Jane Haines is a visitor in Portsea at time of the census. Edward was born approx 1808 in Portsea, Portsmouth, Hampsire. His occupation is a Carpenter.

John had 2 sisters Elizabeth Mary Haines Cockburn born 1842 in Southsea, Portsmouth, Hampshire & Jane Selina Cockburn born 1848 in Strand, London, Middlesex.

On the 1851 census they were living in Liberty of The Rolls, Middlesex.

Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks

Chris

Christine,

1851

Name: John James Coburn
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Jane Hains
Gender: Male
Where born: Portsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Liberty of The Rolls
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Coburn 43
Jane Hains Coburn 37
Elizabeth H Coburn 8
John James Coburn 6
Thomas E Coburn 11 Mo
Sarah Matthews 14


1871?

Name: Elizabeth Welch
[Elizabeth Coburn]
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Daughter
Spouse's name: Edmund
Father's Name: Edward
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: St Dunstan in The West
Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan in the West
County/Island: London
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Coburn 63
Jane Coburn 58
Elizabeth Welch 28
Edmund Welch 28
Henry Welch 3
Elizabeth McGrath 32


1891

Name: Jane S Gilby
[Jane S Coburn]
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Mother's Name: Jane H
Gender: Female
Where born: Strand, London, England

Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Jane S Gilby 43 widow
William E Gilby 4
George R E Gilby 44
Maude J Gilby 11
Jane H Coburn 78 widow
Annie Gilby 7


looking at the names they have to be related!

1871

Name: Jane Cobern
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: St Anns, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Martin in The Fields
Ecclesiastical parish: St Martin
Town: London
County/Island: London
Household Members: Name Age
James Thomas Cobern 54
Jane Cobern 52
James John Cobern 20
Jane Cobern 22
Elizabeth Lucy Cobern 16
Thomas Margaret Cobern 14
Lydia Mary Cobern 10


here we go!!!

1871

Name: John James Coburn
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Helena
Gender: Male
Where born: Southsea, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
John James Coburn 25
Helena Coburn 25
George E T Coburn 3
Alfred E Coburn 2
Willie K Coburn 5 months
Mary Witty 62 ~aunt

1881

Name: John Coburn
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Helena
Gender: Male
Where born: Southsea, Hampshire, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 84 Stamford St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Carpenter Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub-registration district: Waterloo Road First
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Coburn 35
Helena Coburn 34
George E. Coburn 14
Alfred E. Coburn 13
Willie R. Coburn 10
Walter F. Coburn 8
Maud H. Coburn 5
George H. Andrews 13 visitor
Magie Parry 16 visitor
Charlotte Fogle 25 visitor
Edith Adoldhe 26 visitor

is this what you wanted?

Kirsty

Gill,

I am running in June so am in training lol!!!!

Name: John Summerfield
Year of Registration: 1839
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 137


sibling????????

Name: Elizabeth Jane Summerfield
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bristol
County: Avon, Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 135


I am following her at the mo to try and get a connection

1851

Name: Elizabeth J Summerfield
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Bedminster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Summerfield 34 ~ married
Elizabeth J Summerfield 10
Joseph Summerfield 9
William Summerfield 7

following Joseph

1861

Name: Joseph Summerfield
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

Civil Parish: Bedminster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Mary A Bray 50
John Bray 17
Joseph Summerfield 20 shipwright
Thomas Summerfield 55 mariner & widow


1841

Name: Ann Summerfield
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Gender: Female

Civil Parish: Bedminster
Hundred: Hartcliffe and Bedminster
County/Island: Somerset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Bedminster
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Summerfield 30 mariner
Thomas Summerfield 12
Ann Summerfield 23
Elizabeth Summerfield 1

pooooooooooooo!!!!!

I think you need to get the birth cert!

XX

Hi Kirsty

Thank you very much for the lookup.

Chris

Kirsty thankyou so much for trying..i'm going to print all these Summerfields off. as i do have a few Josephs in my tree..also have a peek
on other pepes trees..see if anything comes up..


thanks again.

Gillxxx

Hi,

Please could you look up who hedley collins (born 1890 in weymouth) was living with in the 1901 census

Thanks

Tracy

Tracey

1891

Name: Hedley Collins
Age: 8/12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: John B
Gender: Male
Where born: Weymouth, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Weymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Weymouth
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Registration district: Weymouth
Sub-registration district: Melcombe Regis
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Collins 29 gardener ~Pilton, Wiltshire, England
John B Collins 26 Jane! ~Pilton, Wiltshire, England
Hedley Collins 8/12

1901

Name: Hedley Collins
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Weymouth, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Weymouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Weymouth Holy Trinity
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Household Members: Name Age
John Collins 39
Jane Collins 36
Hedley Collins 10
Harold Collins 4


Hope this helps

Kirsty

hi kirsty
i am back to ask for your help again if you can i am trying to get some info on mt grandparents family's heres there names and d.o.b
Reginald Thomas Lewis b 29/06/1901 kenington 1a 130
Phyllis May Shaile b 20/12/1904 kingston 2a 440
sadley most of my family have past away so the family history has gone
any help would be great
luv
dave
(downunder)

Hi Dave,

so far

MARRIAGE

Name: Phyllis M Shaile
Year of Registration: 1927
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's Surname: Lewis
District: Kingston
County: Middlesex, Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 705

CHILDREN??

Name: Reginald D Lewis
Mother's Maiden Surname: Shaile
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1927
Registration district: Kingston
Registration county: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 776

Name: Derek J Lewis
Mother's Maiden Surname: Shaile
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1929
Registration district: Kingston
Registration county: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 911

Name: Lewis (male)
Mother's Maiden Surname: Shaile
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1931
Registration district: Kingston
Registration county: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 921

Name: Doreen Lewis
Mother's Maiden Surname: Shaile
Date of Registration: Jul Aug Sep 1932
Registration district: Kingston
Registration county: Surrey,Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 919

Name: Peter J Lewis
Mother's Maiden Surname: Shaile
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1935
Registration district: Staines
Registration county: Hertfordshire, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 79

Name: Hilda M Lewis
Mother's Maiden Surname: Shaile
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1943
Registration district: Staines
Registration county: Hertfordshire, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 85

DEATHS

Name: Reginald Thomas Lewis
Birth Date: 29 Jun 1901
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1986
Age at death (estimated): 84
Registration district: Richmond Upon Thames
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 14
Page: 1815

Name: Phyllis May Lewis
Birth Date: 20 Dec 1904
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 1990
Age at death (estimated): 85
Registration district: Kingston Upon Thames
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 13
Page: 1642


Shaile side!

Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Crandley Annie Elizabeth Kingston 2a 643
Mullrainey Walter John Kingston 2a 643
Randall Eliza Kingston 2a 643
Randell Eliza Kingston 2a 643
Shaile Joseph Henry Kingston 2a 643


possible children

Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
SHAILE Annie Louisa Kingston 2a 386

Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
Shaile Annie Vera Kingston 2a 423

Births Mar 1905 (>99%)
Shaile Phyllis May Kingston 2a 440

Births Sep 1907 (>99%)
SHAILE Violet Lilian Kingston 2a 452

Births Sep 1909 (>99%)
SHAILE Elsie Gertrude Kingston 2a 454

Births Dec 1913 (95%)
Shaile Dorothy W Crandley Kingston 2a 835


also found this

Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%)
Shaile Annie E 33 Kingston 2a 821

am unsure of this 1 though????

Deaths Jun 1922 (>99%)
Shaile Joseph 69 Kingston 2a 582

I have been trying to see if I can find them on the 1911 cencus with no luck but if i were you i would try and if you have any luck get a copy of it.

Lewis is a little harder!
i would get the marriage cert of Phyllis & Reginald.

I will keep going for you

Kirsty

lol I very nealy typed (ontop) lol~ how rude!!!!

Dave,

1901

Name: Joseph H Shaile
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Hampton Wick
Ecclesiastical parish: Hampton Wick St John the Baptist
Town: Hampton Wick
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Shaile 45 ~Road Labourer
Louisa Shaile 41 ~Laundry washer (at home)
Joseph H Shaile 22 ~Brumerly???Odd Man
Ellen Shaile 20 ~Servant
Louisa Shaile 18
Joseph Shaile 1 ~ Grandson

1891

Name: Joseph Shale
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Louisa
Gender: Male
Where born: Cowley, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: Hampton Wick
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Hampton Wick
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Shale 38
Louisa Shale 32
Joseph H Shale 13
Grace Shale 12
Eliza E Shale 11
Louisa Shale 9
Grace Bird 28 ~sister Married

1881
????
Name: Joseph Shale
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Gouria
Gender: Male
Where born: Cowley, Oxfordshire, England

Civil Parish: East Molesey
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address: School Road Lears Place No 9
Condition as to marriage: Married
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Shale 26
Gouria Shale 22 does look like Louisa !
Joseph Shale 3
Matilda Shale 2
Eliza Shale 1



Marriages Sep 1877 (>99%)
Mitchell Ella Kingston 2a 464
RAY Louisa Kingston 2a 464
RUBIN Jacob Kingston 2a 464
SHAILE Joseph Kingston 2a 464

Kirsty

Dave,

1861

Name: Louisa Ray
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Gender: Female
Where born: Hampton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Hampton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Smith 33 ~Painter
Grace Ray 34 ~ Unmarried Housekeeper,~Rotherhithe, Surrey, England
Louisa Ray 2
Elizebeth Ray 5 Mo

oh errrrrrr mrs!!!!!!!

can't find the 1871 cencus yet!

Please could you look up the marriage information of Sarah Maddick and John Wells. The wedding took place on 12th July 1861 in Plymouth, England
Sarah was born about 1833 in Plymouth and John Wells was born in 1826 in Edinburgh.

Additionally anything more you could you find out about the birth of their son John Wells b1863 in Aldershot would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Richard

Richard,

I am not haveing alot of luck!

please could you give me some more information, how do you know the information you have given me?

It will be easier for me to start and work back.

If you want to PM me some information or post it on here I will see what I can do for you.

Sorry

Kirsty

hi kirsty
thank you so much for your help .
i could give you a big kiss for all the help you have given me i will send of for the marrage cert .
i do look onto your page from time to time and see how much you do for so many
luv you
dave
(downunder)

hi kirsty lve been off line for a while,dont know if you remember me you helped me to find burgess,summers,nicholson family then i aked you if you if you liked a challenge about the kilners.waiting for certificates to arrive for marriage of jane birh of clara and death of jane.new info lve found out is john kilner in 1911 census was living with a family in cambridgeshire called baldwins,1911 census for clara kilner she was adopted by a lady named elizabeth wilkinson aged 72.now for may kilner 1911 census says she was put into an institution childrens home have the address wondering if i could find out why she was put in there and if she came out.1901 census jane,may,john living with the lang family found out ellen married a john lang in 1869 ellens maiden name was gilpin.page 10 of your thread if you need to refresh your memory many thanks michelle x