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Kirsty
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Another thought Kirsty , perhaps he never came from Ireland and i should
message everyone with a James Arnold ...ha..ha
your mad....and i'm heading that way...good game this isn't it?

UPDATE just been on phone to auntie,,,he was an "Orangeman"
so definitley Ireland!!!

Hi Kirsty

Sorry, been out for the evening.

Thank you so much for the marriage details for William Henry Doncaster.

Walter, on the marriage certificate was a harness cleaner - by 1918 when my Gran was born he was a Private in the Bedfordshire Regt and also a carriage cleaner for the Midland Railway.

Walter Jarrett's father James William Jarrett died in 1893. His profession was Engineers Labourer which made him very easy to track back through the census. I think Walter's mother Mary Ann (Brooks) born Wymondham, Norfolk c1837 was in a workhouse in 1901 (poor girl was in one in 1851 also) and possibly died in 1905. His sister Caroline Huband has their brother Ebenezer living with them in 1901 and Walter's not with his sister Jane White either.

Walter does have a brother George Jarrett 1866 and a brother William C Jarrett born 1870. I know that William C Jarrett had married an Elizabeth Veale just after the 1891 census.

William Henry Doncaster on the marriage certificate is down as having the profession coach painter - one of the reasons I was drawn to the family in Kensington is that Henry is a painters labourer. I think the other William Henry's were professional men from what I could see on the census. The William Henry married to Louise Row was a bootmaker so he's probably not my guy.

I've started doing a page by page by page search of each area of Marylebone to see if I can find them that way (plus possibly pick up other relations) but its incredibly slow going!!

Thanks for this - much appreciated.

Dee

Gill & Dee,
I am off to bed now 4 kids and half term is ummmmmm stressfull!! lol

I shall be back tomorrow and see what I can do


Kirsty
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hi kirsty
thank you
the birth date is the rigth one shorly there can't be that many frederick rogers born on that day as the birth certificate came today it showed his mother was matilda may rogers formerly ( leeds ) and his father was ferderick walter rogers they lived @ 31 warrington crescent paddington.
sorry i don't have alot of information on him as i am trying to do a family tree and of my wifes family tree but my father-in-law was put into a childern's home and know's nothing of any of his family history . we new his mother's name but not his father's untill now and i found he had a brother but that was it .but i have not said anything to him because i what to be shore of anything i find because he is 80 himself .
if any of the above is a help to you .
thank you again your an angle
yours
dave (from downunder)

Dave

Possible brother

Births Sep 1928 (>99%)
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Rogers Philip L Leeds Chelsea 1a 485


will try and find his parents now

Dave,

Marriages Sep 1922 (>99%)
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LEEDS Matilda M Rogers Paddington 1a 226
ROGERS Frederick Leeds Paddington 1a 226

Births Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Leeds Matilda May Faversham 2a 892


1901

Name: Matilda M Leeds
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: Herbert J
Gender: Female
Where born: Teynham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Teynham
Ecclesiastical parish: Teynham St Mary
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Faversham
Sub registration district: Teynham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 37
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Leeds 70 Brandeston, Suffolk, England
Sarah Leeds 68 Chelmsford, Essex, England
Herbert J Leeds 24 Norton, Kent, England ~~Baker ~widower
Matilda M Leeds 4



Marriages Mar 1896 (>99%)
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Cruickshanks George Faversham 2a 1032
Hales Ellen Faversham 2a 1032
Leeds Herbert James Faversham 2a 1032
Neaves Matilda Sophia Faversham 2a 1032

Wife's death

Deaths Jun 1896 (>99%)
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Leeds Matilda Sophia 19 Faversham 2a 469

Looks like she died in child birth ~ poor love


His second marriage

Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%)
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Leeds Herbert James Faversham 2a 1679
Lurcock Fanny Louisa Faversham 2a 1679
Packman George Edward Faversham 2a 1679
Streatfield Frances Emma G Faversham 2a 1679

1891

Name: Hubert J Leeds
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Teynham, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Teynham
Ecclesiastical parish: Teynham
Town: Village Green St
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Faversham
Sub registration district: Teynham
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Leeds 60
Sarah Leeds 58
Hubert J Leeds 14
Alfred F Godfrey 20

1881

Name: Herbert J. Leeds
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Norton, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Norton
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street address: Lodge House
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Leeds 50
Sarah Leeds 48
Albert Leeds 17
Alice Kate Leeds 13
Bertha E. Leeds 10
Samuel W. Leeds 7
Herbert J. Leeds 4

Hi kirsty
heres one for you!!!!!!!!!!
my nan ivy harris 1903,cert says her father william harris....
his marriage cert says william harris 29-12-1901,father james......
but on ivys marriage cert of 1923 his name is george william harris....
& guess what!! i cant find his birth!!
looks like they moved around as ivy born in epsom
she married in wealdstone harrow
& he married in putney.
ive got a bit more info if needed!
be gratefull with some help on this one!
thanks sue

Sue,

what were William's & James's occupations?

what was William's wife called?

Kirsty

Sue,
have you looked on the 1911 cencus?

I have found an Ivy Irene Harris with a father William livinh in South Stoneham Hampshire.

Could this be them it may pay for you to have a look at the cencus and get a bit more info

Kirsty

Hi Kirsty, Thank you for kind offer of look up. I'm looking for parents and siblings of MARIA HIND c1828 from Naseby. Mary married Charles Bradshaw c1838 if thats any help. Any infomation I would be very grateful

hi
i couldnt find them on 1911!!!
william was baker/journeyman
father james horsedealer
william wife was edith may
& ivy irene is the right one
sue

Sue,

try this link

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/results4.aspx?x=1863778831


Kirsty

Dee,

I am still looking!

I am having another train of thought

Charlotte was born out of wedlock??? mother went on to marry William/Henry Doncaster??

I have been trying to cross check births with marriages!!

kirsty
ihave that record & guess wot!!
i think i went wrong!!
in the beginning i put these on tree but due too
my dads bad memory ive made an easy mistake!!
will start again later today.
thanks
i,ll let ya know..lol
sue

Kirsty

It's a possibility. I know she was supposedly a game old bird and a bit of a boozer in her later years but no-one has even whispered about being born out of wedlock - that's assuming she even knew though.

Please don't put yourself to too much trouble over her - I may just have to accept that I'll never get to the bottom of her parents!!!

I'll keep trawling through the Marylebone enumeration districts one by one to see if I can find her. Frances Rose, her firstborn was registered in Marylebone in the September quarter of 1901 so she's got to be there somewhere. Unless she lied again - had the baby elsewhere and didn't register her in the district in which she was born.

Thanks a million for trying.
Dee

John,

I can't find a marriage for Maria Hind and Charles Bradshaw

Where is Naseby?

Can you give me any information you have about either of them and i will try and trace them back through the cencus

Kirsty

Keep me posted Sue


Dee,

it is strange that we can't find Walter or Charlotte....


I take it you have this

Name: Charlotte M Jarrett
Mother's Maiden Surname: Doncaster
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1923
Registration district: Marylebone
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 863


Name: Charlotte M Jarrett
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1923
Year of Registration: 1923
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
District: St Marylebone (1902-1977)
County: Greater London, London
Volume: 1a
Page: 656

Kirsty

Kirsty, All I have is 1881 census Charles Bradshaw c1838 Maria Bradshaw c1828. Had 2 children on 1881 census Sarah A. c1865 & Annie M. c1866. Living in Leicester. Thats all I have!!!

Kirsty.

Naseby is in Leicestershire