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Hi Michelle,

Wonder if you can help with another Tarbox! I've been to see my mum today and updated her on my progress, and she informed me that I'm missing one of her aunts!

Her Grandad was Frederick Tarbox, married to Mary (don't know the last name), and I already have the following children from the 1901 Census:

Christine
Ernest (my grandad)
Frederick
George
Mary
Reginald
Walter T (I think this has been mis-transcribed on the GR database as Walker S but I know otherwise)

Mum says there was another sibling called Nancy, but I haven't been able to find her on the Free BMD indexes. She could have been born in (St) Pancras or possibly Berkhampstead if she is older than Frederick.

She married a William J Beal, who is a witness on my grandparent's Wedding Certificate.

Finally, I wouldn't be overly suprised if her name wasn't really Nancy - they were a funny lot on my mum's side - Mary was always known as "Nin". Mum didn't know her real name, I only tied Nin to Mary because I found her marriage records that show she married a William Hughes and mum remembers that was her Uncle.

Thanks,
Ed

PS - mum sends her thanks too!

Hi Michelle

Wondered if you have a look on the 1851 and 1861 census for me?

I'm looking for JOSHUA ASHBY born 1847c in Derbyshire (either Chapel-en-le-Frith or Bugsworth).

Looking to find out who is parents and siblings were.

Thanks for your help.

Dawn

hi michelle could you please do me a look up .i have a lily harper born about 1880 .barnsley yorks seem to think she may have married someone called hughes my mother in law know nothing about this side of her family.could you please help with any information and thank you for your kindness,
have a wonderful christmas and a healthy new year.

Michelle,

Yes the marriage was 1891. Have spent best part of the afternoon looking for John in the 1881 & 1871 census, but not had much luck, found a John & Bridget in Wigan in 1871, but they were a bit too young plus no kids. Am going to have another trawl at the deaths for John, last child born 1868 (we think) so I suppose 14 years isn't too long to check, I'll also widen the field to Yorkshire as opposed to Bradford only, never know he may have had to take work away from the family, that's why he can't be found. Although would be a lot easier if he died in 1869 wouldn't it.

Pat

Pat

Marriage cert sounds the right 1 good.So death not the right 1?unless he changed profession?Oh what alot these Durkins are!Might be interesting to see who the witnesses are on the marriage cert you never know it may give more clues!!!Without looking back on my thread wasn't the marriage after 1882?if it was be interesting to see if John if marked as deceased on that.
On Bridgets record her sister was on listed as County Mays i should imagine this should have read County Mayo birthplace be really good if we could narrow the place in Ireland they were from.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,

Bradford records just phoned me the marriage cert seems ok - got down father as a Tailor, but death certificate is John Durkin - Iron Moulder - Died in the workhouse. The lady there said if he was in the workhouse then the rest of the family probably would be. That at least tells us it woiuld seem to be the right family

Pat

Pat

Im crossing fingers!!!It is a tricky 1 these Durkins at there were quite a few of them in the area all with same 1st names!!Lets hope we have the right 1's this time.
Let me know if you hear anything.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,

Have just phoned Bradford for John Durkin's death cert 1875 and Mary Ellen's marr. cert. I gave all the info I had on each of them, so hopefully, If I don't receive a phone call in the next couple of hours we may have some confirmation on route!!

Pat

Pat

Sorry to scare you!I just think its important to follow things up with certs when you can to be 100%.Well looks like we have the siblings and their marriages.No sight on the 1871 makes you wonder if they were visiting Ireland?Did know father was John but wondered if you should confirm with certs?
What about asking the helpful Bradford office to see who registered this death

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about John Durkin
Name: John Durkin
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 37
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 128 (click to see others on page)

Like you already mentioned is 1 in 1882 also...could be poss?

Michelle,

Bridget's husband was John - A Tailor - deceased on son James' marr. cert. in 1882, and a Margaret Durkin witnessed the marriage.. These girls are all James's siblings aren't they? don't scare me now!!

I couldn't find Bridget on 1871 census as either widowed or married. But did only look for Bradford. Maybe worth a look a bit wider eh!

Pat

Pat

I know its funny the same names all the time!!Im a little confused too.But it does look like Margaret from the 1881 on the 1891 and 1901 i found and there was a John Durkin on the marriage record and i thought....got to be the 1!!!Might be an idea to get the marriage cert for Mary Ellen at some point to check father's name and occupation.I couldn't see Bridget on the 1871 to check for who her husband was and we may be barking up a wrong tree!!Their are rather alot of Durkin's in Bradford area arent there!

Michelle

Michelle,

I'm gobsmacked!! I've been having a job getting my brain round all the James & Annies - now to have to sort the Margarets & Johns out - I'll end up with a nervous breakdown eh eh. I daren't ask which cousins!!

I'm going to have to get this tree started because the names are all running into each other, might be easier to see it in print as a picture.

Pat

Pat

Well that looks like the 2 siblings found.We are all learning Pat.This is my 3rd thread.My 1st had 7200 threads on it the 2nd around 2500 and this is my 3rd and im still learning.I think you are doing great and we are gathering info together and trying to piece it all together.

Michelle : )

Pat

1901 Continued...

1901 England Census
about John Durkin
Name: John Durkin
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members: Name Age
John Durkin 36
Margaret Durkin 36
John Durkin 9

John a Sheetmaker
Margaret a Mill Hand

Address 56 Bolling Street

Michelle,

When I first started this in early October I got stuck looking for my grandmothers info so I put a thread on and a lady called Dee helped me out. I couldn't understand when I got the grandmothers birth cert. and saw Durkin as a maiden name of her mother - dumbo!! and Dee (from Genes) found Ann Durkin, 56 Duncan St. for me and told me she was the one I was looking for, and obviously informed me of the close relationship. Because things were getting complicated for me I put all the paperwork away and thought I'd concentrated on my grandfather's side. The unfortunate thing was to start with i was following a wrong path on the grandfather's side - got the wrong birth certificate when I spoke with Dee. But hopefully I'm learning all the time.

Pat

Pat

You are not going to believe this another possible cousin marriage!

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Margaret Durkin
Name: Margaret Durkin
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 336 (click to see others on page)

Name Year of Registration Spouse's Surname District County View Image Order Record
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John Durkin 1884 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
View Record
Margaret Durkin 1884 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
View Record
Joseph Parker 1884 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
View Record
Ada Procter 1884 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire


I think she married John Durkin

1891 England Census
about Margaret Durkin
Name: Margaret Durkin
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Hunslet
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Durkin 26
Margaret Durkin 26
Annie Durkin 5

1891 England Census
about Margaret Durkin
Name: Margaret Durkin
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Hunslet
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Durkin 26
Margaret Durkin 26
Annie Durkin 5

1891 England Census
about Annie Durkin
Name: Annie Durkin
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Hunslet
Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hunslet
Sub registration district: Hunslet
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Durkin 26
Margaret Durkin 26
Annie Durkin 5


John a Sheet Repairer Railway

Address 25 Cramptons could be buildings the 2nd word?


Here is the 1901

1901 England Census
about John Durkin
Name: John Durkin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members: Name Age
John Durkin 36
Margaret Durkin 36
John Durkin 9

1901 England Census
about Margaret Durkin
Name: Margaret Durkin
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members: Name Age
John Durkin 36
Margaret Durkin 36
John Durkin 9

Continue...

Pat

I know nothing of James yet but what we are doing is building a picture.Its a bit like being a detective is lookups!!You piece all the puzzle together and then if you are lucky 1 piece falls into place.Why did you think Bridget was the mother?Is this family hand down info?

Michelle

Pat

Continue....

1901 England Census
about George Kearns
Name: George Kearns
Age: 1 month
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Patrick
Mother's Name: Mary Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Kearns 37
Mary Ellen Kearns 33
Mary Agnes Kearns 7
Annie Kearns 4
Arthur Kearns 2
George Kearns 1 month


Patrick a Mason's Labourer
Mary Ellen a Housewife

Address 61 Granby Street

Pat

Marriage of Mary Ellen Durkin

Mary Ellen Durkin 1891 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
View Record

Patrick Kearns 1891 Bradford Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Mary Ellen Durkin
Name: Mary Ellen Durkin
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 310 (click to see others on page)

1901 England Census
about Patrick Kearns
Name: Patrick Kearns
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Kearns 37
Mary Ellen Kearns 33
Mary Agnes Kearns 7
Annie Kearns 4
Arthur Kearns 2
George Kearns 1 month

1901 England Census
about Mary Ellen Kearns
Name: Mary Ellen Kearns
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Patrick
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Kearns 37
Mary Ellen Kearns 33
Mary Agnes Kearns 7
Annie Kearns 4
Arthur Kearns 2
George Kearns 1 month

1901 England Census
about Mary Agnes Kearns
Name: Mary Agnes Kearns
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Patrick
Mother's Name: Mary Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Kearns 37
Mary Ellen Kearns 33
Mary Agnes Kearns 7
Annie Kearns 4
Arthur Kearns 2
George Kearns 1

1901 England Census
about Annie Kearns
Name: Annie Kearns
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Patrick
Mother's Name: Mary Ellen
Gender: Female
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Kearns 37
Mary Ellen Kearns 33
Mary Agnes Kearns 7
Annie Kearns 4
Arthur Kearns 2
George Kearns 1 month

1901 England Census
about Arthur Kearns
Name: Arthur Kearns
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Patrick
Mother's Name: Mary Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bradford
Sub registration district: Bowling
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 140
Household Members: Name Age
Patrick Kearns 37
Mary Ellen Kearns 33
Mary Agnes Kearns 7
Annie Kearns 4
Arthur Kearns 2
George Kearns 1 month

Continue....

Michelle,

That;s the one I found I must be learning something from you!!

Pat