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Brick Walls help on the Census Records***Michelle*

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***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 9 Jan 2009 22:39

Nichola

Matila is a boarder on the 1891 here she is and the head of house,its a large record so won't break it unless there is someone you are interested in?

1891 England Census
about Matilda Pocock
Name: Matilda Pocock
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry German 36
Zuleeza Maud German 29
Leila Evett 5
George A Evett 4
Matilda Pocock 56
Ann Gibbs 65
William Culff 32
Josephine Grace 33
Eliza Stacey 29
Alice Cornford 22
Fanny Eames 20
Eva Brown 26
Laura Cooper 24

1891 England Census
about Henry German
Name: Henry German
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Zuleeza Maud
Gender: Male
Where born: Bow, London, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry German 36
Zuleeza Maud German 29
Leila Evett 5
George A Evett 4
Matilda Pocock 56
Ann Gibbs 65
William Culff 32
Josephine Grace 33
Eliza Stacey 29
Alice Cornford 22
Fanny Eames 20
Eva Brown 26
Laura Cooper 24


Henry a Boarders House Keeper
Matilda still single and living by her own means

Address 64 Grand Parade

Here is the 1901 of Matilda

1901 England Census
about Matilda Cocock
Name: Matilda Cocock
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: Brighton St Peter and West Blatchington St Peter
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: West Brighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 252
Household Members: Name Age
Matilda Cocock 66
Louisa Davies 53

1901 England Census
about Louisa Davies
Name: Louisa Davies
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Tewkesbury

Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: Brighton St Peter and West Blatchington St Peter
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: West Brighton
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 252
Household Members: Name Age
Matilda Cocock 66
Louisa Davies 53


Matilda living on own means





***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 9 Jan 2009 22:12

Nichola

Here is the 1871 for the family in England

1871 England Census
about Henry Pocock
Name: Henry Pocock
Age: 78
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 337
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 78
Ann Pocock 70
Matilda Pocock 36
Agnes Sturges 18

1871 England Census
about Ann Pocock
Name: Ann Pocock
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 337
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 78
Ann Pocock 70
Matilda Pocock 36
Agnes Sturges 18

1871 England Census
about Matilda Pocock
Name: Matilda Pocock
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 337
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 78
Ann Pocock 70
Matilda Pocock 36
Agnes Sturges 18

1871 England Census
about Agnes Sturges
Name: Agnes Sturges
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 337
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 78
Ann Pocock 70
Matilda Pocock 36
Agnes Sturges 18

Henry a Fishmonger

Address 54 Western Road











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 9 Jan 2009 21:57

Nichola

1861 for the parents

1861 England Census
about Henry Pocock
Name: Henry Pocock
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 68
Ann Pocock 60
George Pocock 22
Matilda Pocock 26
Emily Butcher 24

1861 England Census
about Ann Pocock
Name: Ann Pocock
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 68
Ann Pocock 60
George Pocock 22
Matilda Pocock 26
Emily Butcher 24

1861 England Census
about George Pocock
Name: George Pocock
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 68
Ann Pocock 60
George Pocock 22
Matilda Pocock 26
Emily Butcher 24

1861 England Census
about Matilda Pocock
Name: Matilda Pocock
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 68
Ann Pocock 60
George Pocock 22
Matilda Pocock 26
Emily Butcher 24

1861 England Census
about Emily Butcher
Name: Emily Butcher
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Arundel, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 244
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 68
Ann Pocock 60
George Pocock 22
Matilda Pocock 26
Emily Butcher 24


Henry a Fishmonger with 4 men
Emily a House Servant

Address 54 Western Road











***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 9 Jan 2009 20:40

Nichola

1851 Continued...

1851 England Census
about George Pocock
Name: George Pocock
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 58
Ann Pocock 50
Caroline Pocock 17
Matilda Pocock 16
William Pocock 15
George Pocock 13
William Laurence 28
Charles Laurence 28
George Laurence 23

I would say the Laurence family are the next door neighbours.As there is a seperate schedule number for them.

Henry a Fish Merchant
Caroline a Dress Maker
William looks like Writer and Grainer

Address 40 Queens Street


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 9 Jan 2009 20:31

Nichola

Thanks for your comments.

Here is the 1851 of William

1851 England Census
about Henry Pocock
Name: Henry Pocock
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1793
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 58
Ann Pocock 50
Caroline Pocock 17
Matilda Pocock 16
William Pocock 15
George Pocock 13
William Laurence 28
Charles Laurence 28
George Laurence 23

1851 England Census
about Ann Pocock
Name: Ann Pocock
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Henry
Gender: Female
Where born: Stratford Le Boae, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 58
Ann Pocock 50
Caroline Pocock 17
Matilda Pocock 16
William Pocock 15
George Pocock 13
William Laurence 28
Charles Laurence 28
George Laurence 23

1851 England Census
about Caroline Pocock
Name: Caroline Pocock
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 58
Ann Pocock 50
Caroline Pocock 17
Matilda Pocock 16
William Pocock 15
George Pocock 13
William Laurence 28
Charles Laurence 28
George Laurence 23

1851 England Census
about Matilda Pocock
Name: Matilda Pocock
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 58
Ann Pocock 50
Caroline Pocock 17
Matilda Pocock 16
William Pocock 15
George Pocock 13
William Laurence 28
Charles Laurence 28
George Laurence 23

1851 England Census
about William Pocock
Name: William Pocock
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 1ee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 53
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Pocock 58
Ann Pocock 50
Caroline Pocock 17
Matilda Pocock 16
William Pocock 15
George Pocock 13
William Laurence 28
Charles Laurence 28
George Laurence 23

Continue.....














Nichola

Nichola Report 9 Jan 2009 09:44

Hi Michelle,

I've seen how awesome you are with finding info for people so I was hoping you could help me with my Pocock ancesters.

I'm trying to find more information on William Henry Pocock, born in 1837 in Brighton, England. He lived in Princess St, Old Steyne, Brighton. And his father Henry (born c1793) who was married to Ann (born c1801)

William went to Australia prior to 1861. He married Catherine Kelly of Queens Co, Ireland on 21st May, 1861 at Beechworth Victoria.

Any information on them would be helpful and much appreciated.

Nichola

Susan

Susan Report 9 Jan 2009 01:26

michelle thanks ever so much for all the information,yes it will keep me busy for a bit,will get back to you soon,esp if i dont understand something or get stuck,if thats ok with you,many thanx susan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 9 Jan 2009 00:05

nudged for Susan

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Jan 2009 14:58

Derek

Only Way showing up in Tolpuddle around the same age is this 1

1841 England Census
about Joseph Way
Name: Joseph Way
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1776
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
Hundred: Piddletown
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub registration district: Piddletown
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Way 65
Mary Way 45
Rebecca Way 20
Amy Way 15
Anna Maria Way 14
Mary Way 11
James Way 9
Harriet Way 7

No James Way on the 1841 only 1 anywhere near birthage of James Way 1773-78 is this 1

1841 England Census
about James Way
Name: James Way
Age: 59
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Hawkchurch
Hundred: Uggscombe
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Axminster
Sub registration district: Axminster
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Way 59
Mercey Way 58


Sorry maybe he was just missed off-many 1841 strays!

Michelle


Derek

Derek Report 8 Jan 2009 14:37

Hi Michelle, thank you for all the info. Can you 'see' James WAY (Ignore the forename Winter) on the 1841 for Tolpuddle and environs?

Best Wishes,
Derek

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Jan 2009 14:33

Helen

This site is great for Scottish BMD's

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

Free to search but you do have to pay to view records.Might be an idea to look for those birth children of the couple who adopted your ancestor.That's if you know the area they were born?If you wanted to know her birth parents names you could use the above site to get her birth record.

With regards to the adoption

Adoptions before 1930
Before 1930 adoptions were arranged on a private basis, either by individuals or by one of a number of charitable adoption agencies. NAS currently holds no records for adoptions before 1930.

Hope that answers your questions.

Best of luck.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Jan 2009 13:46

Helen

Sorry i can't help with your query as i don't have access to Irish records.For BMD i only have access to English and Welsh.For census records Scotland,England and Wales and the Channel Islands.

Have you tried Inis on the Records Office Board.He does Irish lookups and maybe able to help or advise you.

Good Luck!

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Jan 2009 11:09

Susan

Hi there!

Well thought as you are new might be good to give you some advise re records etc and give you some useful sites.

What i think you should do 1st re the Lynch family is to get 2 certs.The marriage cert for Daniel and Mary.If the census records i have found for 1891-1901 are correct they were quite young when they married,which makes sense cos they were still having children in 1920-21.
What we normally do when tracing back a family is to get certs to back up the info we find.It is an expense but you have to be accurate in tree making and 1 wrong choice-wrong guess can make your whole line the wrong people!So certs are important.

The marriage cert of Daniel and Mary will show the following:

Both father's of the couple names and occupations and also if they were deceased at time of marriage
Both ages of the couple
Where and what date the marriage took place
Occupations of the couple at time of marriage and where they were living
Lastly witnesses to marriage of which there are 2 mostly 1 from each side and quite often family members-siblings or mother or father.

With the info from the marriage cert you can then refer to the census records.The census records began in 1841 and occurred every 10 years.The lastest 1 we have to view is the 1901.Although the 1911 is due to be released very soon and i was lucky to view the beta version in Dec and it was great and really helped me with my own tree.
The census records show a household.Where they were living-address,district,reg area.Who was in the house,each house has a head of house who is normally the father.Of course when a woman is widowed she becomes head of house or when husband is away.All people in the house are listed and where they were born and the year they were born and the age they are.Also census records show relationship of all people in the house to the Head of house-ie daughter,wife,lodger etc.Also we get to see the occupation of the people in the household.So lots of info and very useful.

With Daniel and Mary's cert we can then refer to the census records and find them before they were married-we can do this cos we have the year they were born and father's name and occupation from the cert and any other clues the cert had.

So to order cert you can do this online which i guess cos you are in St Lucia is your best option!Here is the web address below

www.gro.gov.uk

Cost of cert is £7 but as you are abroad postage will be added i presume.You use the Vol Number and Page Number from the marriage record i sent you and also names,district,reg area.Tick on the form that you have the index numbers(VolVumber,Page Number).

Well now to useful sites.

www.familysearch.org t
his is free and has parish records for BMD going back to 1500's.Only thing to watch with this brilliant site are to ensure you only take note of records that are extracted.This means they were taken from the parish records.There are also submitted records on this site-these are sent in by public and can often be false and wrong.So basically extracted are fine,submitted need to be checked out.

http://www.ancestry.co.uk

Ancestry is the best for census records and has a complete BMD up to 2005.Is not free and you have to pay either monthly or yearly subcriptions.But is well worth it cos you get unlimited access to records.

http://www.rootsweb.com/

Useful site-has family trees on and records to search

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Useful and free!has BMD's up to 1920's i believe.

http://www.census1891.com/occupations-t.htm

Shows the occupation meanings from the census records.So if you see an occupation you don't know go to this site for what the modern term for this job is.

and here is a few more

http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/england/Middlesex/midsex/

http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/index.htm

http://www.parishregisteruklook-upexchange.co.uk/census.htm

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryEngland.htm

Well that should keep you busy!!Any questions always happy to help.I did search the whole of 1921 and no birth for Thomas Lynch mother Mcdonald nearest is that 1920 one i sent you last night.

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Jan 2009 00:02

Derek

More info

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George Williams Way Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 08 MAY 1808 Tolpuddle, Dorset, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: James Way Family
Mother: Ann


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 8 Jan 2009 00:01

Derek

A bit more info for you.I presume this is Mary Riggs?

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Mary Winter Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 05 OCT 1806 Tolpuddle, Dorset, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: James Way Family
Mother: Ann


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 7 Jan 2009 23:56

Derek

Can't see James W on the 1841 but here is Richard Riggs

1841 England Census
about Richd Riggs
Name: Richd Riggs
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1772
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
Hundred: Piddletown
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub registration district: Piddletown
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Riggs 69
Mary Riggs 67

1841 England Census
about Mary Riggs
Name: Mary Riggs
Age: 67
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1774
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
Hundred: Piddletown
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub registration district: Piddletown
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Richd Riggs 69
Mary Riggs 67

Census image is really poor and unreadable.

This is Charlotte Riggs and i will post her mother and father-if you would like more from this record let me know.

1841 England Census
about Charlotte Riggs
Name: Charlotte Riggs
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
Hundred: Piddletown
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub registration district: Piddletown
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Riggs 39
Mary Riggs 35
Ann Riggs 15
George Riggs 19
James Riggs 9
Charlotte Riggs 7
Mary Riggs 4
John Riggs 3
Susan Riggs 1

1841 England Census
about James Riggs
Name: James Riggs
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1802
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
Hundred: Piddletown
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub registration district: Piddletown
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Riggs 39
Mary Riggs 35
Ann Riggs 15
George Riggs 19
James Riggs 9
Charlotte Riggs 7
Mary Riggs 4
John Riggs 3
Susan Riggs 1

1841 England Census
about Mary Riggs
Name: Mary Riggs
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Female
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
Hundred: Piddletown
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dorchester and Cerne
Sub registration district: Piddletown
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Riggs 39
Mary Riggs 35
Ann Riggs 15
George Riggs 19
James Riggs 9
Charlotte Riggs 7
Mary Riggs 4
John Riggs 3
Susan Riggs 1

James a Ag Lab
















***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 7 Jan 2009 23:22

Derek

Here you go found James W Way-well i presume W stands for Winter

1851 England Census
about James W Way
Name: James W Way
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1778
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: N

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Dorchester
Sub registration district: Piddletown
ED, institution, or vessel: 7b
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Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
James W Way 73
Richard Riggs 19
Charlotte Riggs 17

1851 England Census
about Richard Riggs
Name: Richard Riggs
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Brother-in-law
Gender: Male
Where born: N

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Dorchester
Sub registration district: Piddletown
ED, institution, or vessel: 7b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
James W Way 73
Richard Riggs 19
Charlotte Riggs 17

1851 England Census
about Charlotte Riggs
Name: Charlotte Riggs
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Tolpiddle, Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Tolpuddle
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Dorchester
Sub registration district: Piddletown
ED, institution, or vessel: 7b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
James W Way 73
Richard Riggs 19
Charlotte Riggs 17

James a Ag Lab
Richard is not 19!!he is 79 and a Pensioner

Address Tolpuddle

Will check the 1841








***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 7 Jan 2009 22:59

Angela

I became quite confused by yours if im honest.I found the daughter born 1895 and thought bingo cos the parents names matched the 1's you gave me.Saw the poss brother next door and thought yep i will go back to the 1881 and see James(Jim)????But no??So hence why i asked you whether the name for James was correct?It just all seems so right the 1901 cos there are also boys there and you said there was up to 6.

Does anyone know who James? married.Would really help to know.And in answer to your question i would say only way to know re marriage cert is to obtain it and see who the father's are listed as.Cross fingers for Richard!

Michelle

Derek

Derek Report 7 Jan 2009 22:41

Hi Michelle, I have a problem with James WAY or James Winter WAY in the village of Tolpuddle Dorset. There mabe have been two James's, maybe one with people getting confused. James Winter WAY got married twice so he was using that nam just a bit ...

I think there were two, one born 1773, the other born 1778 (He was buried in Tolpuddle 1857).

Please can you check for a James or James Winter WAY on the 1841 and 1851 to see if James Winter WAY was using that name and who was with him at that time?

Best wishes,
Derek

angie2405

angie2405 Report 7 Jan 2009 22:38

Hi Michelle

Thank you for the details of the Molyneux family.

According to my cousin her grandfather William's brother was always referred to as 'Uncle Jim' - she has no idea what his given name was. :(

However ....

I had a look on the 1881 census for William Molyneux born c1873 in Ince [that was the info from the 1891 & 101 that you found]....... there are loads of William Molyneuxs - but only one born c1873 Ince. :))

The 1881census shows:

Richard Molyneux 33 b1848 Ince
Jane Molyneux 37
Richd.H. Molyneux 16
John Molyneux 14
Martha Molyneux 10
William Molyneux 7
Alice Molyneux 3
Robt. Molyneux 5

They were living at Stafford Street, Hindley and the details you posted on Alice shows they were living in Frederick street . I had a look on google maps - stafford street and frederik street and about a third of a mile apart !


Do you think they could be the right william and alice ?

Regards

Angie