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lesley

Sorry that's the way the census records go...i wish i could give you the mother on the census but thats what i found and it was Daniel and father.Looks like it is them cos the occupations match.

I will try and find who the mother was but noticed not much on IGI earlier when i looked.Also their may not have been many siblings??

Michelle

wittness to marriage is christopher coppen and the mark of mary ann nash john law and james coppen labs also was daniel also what you found i have was opeing to get daniels mother had the siblings to daniel your lesley

Lesley

I wonder if this could be them???

1841 England Census
about John Law
Name: John Law
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Broxted
Hundred: Dunmow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dunmow
Sub registration district: Thaxted
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Law 40
Dan Law 14

1841 England Census
about Dan Law
Name: Dan Law
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: Broxted
Hundred: Dunmow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Dunmow
Sub registration district: Thaxted
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Law 40
Dan Law 14

Looks like they were both Ag Labs

Address Cherry Green

Also remember 1841 birthyears were sometimes up to 5 years out.

Angela

Let me know what they have to say about Jim.You know where i am if you need help.

Michelle

Lesley

1841 never an easy 1 to find people on! Could you give me the witness names from the marriage cert please?and occupation for John father of Daniel.

Thanks

Michelle

Hi Michelle

Re my Molyneux family -I have written to my cousin for any more info on he mysterious 'Uncle Jim'.


Thank you for all your help

Angie

hi michelle hope you can help me with a family called law from essex all reg is in chelmsford marriage in hanningfield essex.i have this info daniel law birth abt 1831 broxted essexwife charity emily coppen birth 1831marriage in 1848 in south hanningfield essexdaniel father john law emily father james coppen i am looking for the law's not the coppen's i have info on that family other info is as follows daughter of daniel is elizabeth and she married a nicholls
elizabeth birth is 1863 and i have that for ingatestone essex reg chelmsford essex
hope this info helps you to help me very greatfull for any help given yours lesley

Davies

You do have quite a bit of info but without exact birthplace is always tricky.

I need some further info to help in my search for you.

1) Do you know where Catherine was born?

2) How have you both parents names?Was this from a marriage when he left the country?

3) What is the spelling of Harriet on the cert-if you have 1?Reason i ask is i am looking for George and Harriets marriage and Ancestry and Free BMD both have no matches with surname Barry and Turner?Do you have the marriage?

If you could answer these questions would be a great help to me.I will try to find you something.

Michelle

Nichola

The only other family living there at the same time was this 1 led by Thomas and Elizabeth,but as you had said that your William had parents Henry and Ann i didn't choose this 1

1851 England Census
about William Pocock
Name: William Pocock
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 1c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 146
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Pocock 57
Elizabeth Pocock 57
Elizabeth Pocock 27
Henry Pocock 20
Charlotte Pocock 16
William Pocock 15
Franklin Pocock 13
Joseph Catton 21
David Catton 15
George Pocock 10


There is this family but head is John and no William or Matilda

1851 England Census
about John Pocock
Name: John Pocock
Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1789
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 1f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 141
Household Members: Name Age
John Pocock 62
Georgiana Pocock 29
Mary Ann Pocock 28
Eliza Pocock 27
Sarah Ann Pocock 25
Adolphus F P Pocock 14
Harriett Piper 23


and this 1

1851 England Census
about Gavin E Pocock
Name: Gavin E Pocock
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Y
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 1h
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Household Members: Name Age
Gavin E Pocock 35
Mary Y Pocock 33
Crawford Jno Pocock 11
Mary B Pocock 7
Stephen A Pocock 9
Elizabeth Pocock 33
Thomas Brown 69
Esther Funnell 22
Ellen Young 18

and this 1

1851 England Census
about Erasmus Pocock
Name: Erasmus Pocock
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Etty
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: Kemp Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1o
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Household Members: Name Age
Erasmus Pocock 37
Etty Pocock 38
Emily M A Pocock 22
Jane Wess 58
Harriet Blaker 19

Do you think i have the wrong family then?I am sure they are not cos the birthyears of parents matched the info you gave me and the William was not seen after the 1851?Let me know if i can help further,or if you require any further info.

Michelle

Hi Michelle,

Was there another Pocock family living in Brighton at the same time?

With children William, George, Sarah, Matilda and Annie?

Regards, Nichola

Hi Michelle,
John Turner born 1881 either Yorkshire or Manchester, parents George Turner and Harriet Barry.
John had a wife died in child birth about 1907 her name was Anne. The child lived her name Catherine. John left her with family to be raised. He migrated to Australia just afterwards.
George Turner was a bricklayer and John a butcher in England.
Now you would think with all this imformation I would be able to find John and his family BUT NO!!!!!!!!
It's been fustrating.
Anything ANYTHING if you can just find something.
Regards Barbara

Michelle,
Thanks for the Pocock data.
You're amazing and truely a treasure for all of us in our searches for ancestor info.
Again, many thanks,
Nichola

Kath

Thought you might find this interesting

Norfolk: West Bilney
William White's History, Gazetteer, and Directory of Norfolk 1845
BILNEY (WEST) is a small scattered village, with several neat houses, pleasantly situated on and near the Swaffham turnpike, 7½ miles E.S.E. of Lynn; comprising in its parish 298 inhabitants, and about 2,400 acres of land, including 150 acres of plantations, all belonging to John Dalton, Esq., the lord of the manor, and patron of the Church, which is dedicated to St. Cecilia, and is a curacy, certified at £20 per annum, paid by the lord of the manor, but augmented from 1762 to 1817, with £800 of Queen Anne's bounty, of which £429 14s. remain at interest, and the rest was laid out in 13½ acres of land. It was valued in 1831 at £60, and the Rev. Samuel Spencer is the incumbent.
Bilney Lodge, a handsome mansion embowered in vigorous plantations, is occupied by T.M. Wythe, jun., Esq. The National School for Bilney and Pentney, was built in 1833, by subscription

Also found this online

County Norfolk
Place West Bilney
Church St Cecilia
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate 06 Aug 1807
Forename John
Sex M
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Ann
FatherSurname BACK
MotherSurname
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 1830

and this which looks like Mary's maiden name?

County Norfolk
Place Narborough
Church Al Saints
RegisterNumber 37
MarriageDate 25 Dec 1828
GroomForename John
GroomSurname BACK
GroomAge
GroomParish West Bilney
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Mary
BrideSurname COBLE
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename James
WitnessOneSurname COBLE
WitnessTwoForename Sarah
WitnessTwoSurname COBLE
Notes Both Sign X.
FileNumber 1854

Kath

Here is the 1841

1841 England Census
about John Back
Name: John Back
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Hundred: Freebridge Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Gayton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 30
Mary Back 30
Henry Back 12
William Back 4
Charles Back 2
James Back 1

1841 England Census
about Mary Back
Name: Mary Back
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Hundred: Freebridge Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Gayton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 30
Mary Back 30
Henry Back 12
William Back 4
Charles Back 2
James Back 1

1841 England Census
about Henry Back
Name: Henry Back
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Hundred: Freebridge Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Gayton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 30
Mary Back 30
Henry Back 12
William Back 4
Charles Back 2
James Back 1

1841 England Census
about William Back
Name: William Back
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Hundred: Freebridge Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Gayton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 30
Mary Back 30
Henry Back 12
William Back 4
Charles Back 2
James Back 1

1841 England Census
about Charles Back
Name: Charles Back
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Hundred: Freebridge Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Gayton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 30
Mary Back 30
Henry Back 12
William Back 4
Charles Back 2
James Back 1

1841 England Census
about James Back
Name: James Back
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Hundred: Freebridge Lynn
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Gayton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 30
Mary Back 30
Henry Back 12
William Back 4
Charles Back 2
James Back 1

John a Lab

Address Bilney

Kath

1851 Continued...

1851 England Census
about Robert Back
Name: Robert Back
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

1851 England Census
about George Back
Name: George Back
[Goerge Back]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

1851 England Census
about Albert Back
Name: Albert Back
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

1851 England Census
about Frederic Back
Name: Frederic Back
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

1851 England Census
about Ann M Back
Name: Ann M Back
Age: 6 Mo
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

John a Ag Lab
Mary a Grocer's Shopkeeper
William a Groom
Charles a Bricklayers lab
James and Robert both Ag Labs

No address listed

Kath

Hi Kath here is the 1851

1851 England Census
about John Back
Name: John Back
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

1851 England Census
about Mary Back
Name: Mary Back
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Hilborough, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

1851 England Census
about William Back
Name: William Back
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

1851 England Census
about Charles Back
Name: Charles Back
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

1851 England Census
about James Back
Name: James Back
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: West Bilney, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: West Bilney
Ecclesiastical parish: Norwich
County/Island: Norfolk
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Freebridge Lynn
Sub registration district: Hillington
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
John Back 45
Mary Back 46
William Back 14
Charles Back 12
James Back 11
Robert Back 8
George Back 6
Albert Back 5
Frederic Back 4
Ann M Back 6 Mo

Continue....

Nichola

Sorry i can't help with the Australian records or the Irish side i do not have records for these.

Cherilyn on the Records Office Board helps with Aussie lookups and Inis helps with Irish lookups.So give them a try-both on the Records Office Board.

I hope what i have found on the English side helps in your searching and be sure to check back a page as some records maybe on the page before.

Michelle : )

Nichola

Here is the christening record of William Henry Pocock

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about William Henry Pocock
Name: William Henry Pocock
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 6 Jul 1836
Christening Place: Brighton, Sussex, England
Father's Name: Henry Pocock
Mother's Name: Ann

Poss marriage of William's parents

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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HENRY POCOCK Pedigree
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Marriages:
Spouse: ANN WINCH Family
Marriage: 29 JAN 1831 Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England



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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date

Nichola

Poss death of Matilda

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Matilda Pocock
Name: Matilda Pocock
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 68
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 133 (click to see others on page)

Nichola

Death of the father Henry

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Henry Pocock
Name: Henry Pocock
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1794
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 81
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 212 (click to see others on page)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Ann Pocock
Name: Ann Pocock
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1800
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 88
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 134 (click to see others on page)

Here is the 1881 of Ann and Matilda although Matilda mistranscirbed as Malcom!!image says Matilda

1881 England Census
about Ann Pocock
Name: Ann Pocock
Age: 80
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Stratford, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: 84 London Road
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Annuitant

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Pocock 80
Malcolm Pocock 46
Elia Wells 14

1881 England Census
about Malcolm Pocock
Name: Malcolm Pocock
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: 84 London Road
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Annuitant

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Pocock 80
Malcolm Pocock 46
Elia Wells 14

1881 England Census
about Elia Wells
Name: Elia Wells
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Lewes, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Street address: 84 London Road
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Servant Dom

Registration district: Brighton
Sub registration district: St Peter
ED, institution, or vessel: 38
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Pocock 80
Malcolm Pocock 46
Elia Wells 14